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Post by jackgordon on Jul 30, 2015 9:31:15 GMT -6
They both look good. I'm drawn to the indigo but I'd be more than happy with either.
I reckon unless you've got a good thing going with Gustin shirts fitting you to perfection you're better off spending a few dollars more for something like those shirts. Saying that, the Australian dollar is weak as piss right now so I'm not buying anything for a loong time.
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Jul 30, 2015 8:38:11 GMT -6
Post by jackgordon on Jul 30, 2015 8:38:11 GMT -6
I've got a pair of UES 400T that I'm getting ready to give their first soak. The denim these are made of is great—14.9oz of unsanforized, hairy, slightly slubby, deep indigo with a brownish weft. They're cut generous enough for my thighs and ass but with a slight taper. I'm expecting a real nice fit when they come out of the machine. Anybody got any experience/opinions on these? Damn you jackgordon, I do enough self enabling you know....so I really don't need others to enable me ...but this looks like a damn good pair of jeans. No problemo. Any time.
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Jul 29, 2015 22:42:39 GMT -6
Post by jackgordon on Jul 29, 2015 22:42:39 GMT -6
Wow. That is a very good looking pair of jeans. I'd be happy to end up with something like that.
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Post by jackgordon on Jul 29, 2015 20:28:14 GMT -6
I've got a pair of UES 400T that I'm getting ready to give their first soak.
The denim these are made of is great—14.9oz of unsanforized, hairy, slightly slubby, deep indigo with a brownish weft. They're cut generous enough for my thighs and ass but with a slight taper. I'm expecting a real nice fit when they come out of the machine.
Anybody got any experience/opinions on these?
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Post by jackgordon on Jul 28, 2015 21:57:26 GMT -6
Thanks. That's Geraldine next to him on the porch.
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Post by jackgordon on Jul 28, 2015 20:23:32 GMT -6
I was feeling reckless so I threw my 8 month old Okayama Standards in a 95 degree wash to see what would happen to them. The waste water that came out was like deep blue ink. Overall I'd say it was a pretty good move. I was getting sick of the boring stage between losing their crisp, raw look and being worn old jeans. The wash definitely helped them along and they're turning a real nice shade of blue now, and the whiskers and combs and all those other good things are showing up a little better. One odd thing was that the pocket bags and the white label on the waistband have turned bright yellow. It's like they'd been dyed in Mountain Dew. Strangely, it hasn't effected the white on the selvedge ID. It's bizarre. The only thing I can think is that it might be from the leather patch, which is now significantly lighter. Anyway, the moral of the story is don't be scared of the washer, unless you hate the idea of yellow pocket bags. Dude my Okas were too big, seemed like a cut between the standard and slims, so I scold-soaked them and threw in the tumbler. My pocketbags and G-tag are now neon-green!!! I think for sure its the deadstock color that does this. Mine isnt actuall washed yet so still have some green tint. How is yours, did they loose all traces of deadstock on the outside? If yes, then I might never ever wash mine! Evah! sorry for the late reply, been away awhile.. Not too sure what you mean by "deadstock color"—I thought deadstock was just something that isn't made any more. But yeah, they totally lost any trace of the green cast and now look like good old vintage indigo jeans. I'm not sure what the "cast" is exactly. Is it a tint added to the indigo, or a sort of final overdye? Whatever it is, it can't handle a boil wash and bleeds out all over the place, affixing itself to pocketbags and waistband tags.
I think if I were to do something similar again, I'd take it down 10-15 degrees C.
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Post by jackgordon on Jun 12, 2015 0:28:57 GMT -6
I was feeling reckless so I threw my 8 month old Okayama Standards in a 95 degree wash to see what would happen to them. The waste water that came out was like deep blue ink. Overall I'd say it was a pretty good move. I was getting sick of the boring stage between losing their crisp, raw look and being worn old jeans. The wash definitely helped them along and they're turning a real nice shade of blue now, and the whiskers and combs and all those other good things are showing up a little better.
One odd thing was that the pocket bags and the white label on the waistband have turned bright yellow. It's like they'd been dyed in Mountain Dew. Strangely, it hasn't effected the white on the selvedge ID. It's bizarre. The only thing I can think is that it might be from the leather patch, which is now significantly lighter.
Anyway, the moral of the story is don't be scared of the washer, unless you hate the idea of yellow pocket bags.
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Post by jackgordon on Jun 11, 2015 23:37:41 GMT -6
I just received 2 of those order confirmation emails. I'd been meaning to get in touch to change my delivery address, so I replied to one and it bounced. It was Roman's email address.
Now I see the website is down but "will be opening soon". Is the dotUS domain name a new thing? I don't remember..
I've been away from these boards for a while—has this been covered already? Is this the 59th time they've tried to get a decent website up? Or is it all going up in flames?
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Post by jackgordon on May 13, 2015 4:27:04 GMT -6
Hot soak it is. I've got 2 water glasses holding the cuffs where they are (I don't have big hands and they're pretty tight) and everything else I hope will shrink up.
The specs for a large jacket have the chest at 43". Mine is 44". Hopefully the soak will bring it more in line with the spec.
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Post by jackgordon on May 11, 2015 19:25:07 GMT -6
I've thought about that, but it's already a pretty tight weave (Kuroki 14oz) and I don't think it would shrink up too much. It would then stretch out with wear and I'd be no better off. I've also thought about taking it to a tailor, but I'm not sure how much they'd be able to do as it's big everywhere—chest, shoulders, upper arms.
It shows me that spec measurements aren't everything. I've got shirts with the same chest measurements as this jacket that don't look or feel big on me at all.
Still, it seems like Lawless are getting things together. If they ever bring their prices back down toward what they were, I would definitely order another from them.
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Post by jackgordon on May 11, 2015 18:52:11 GMT -6
Well, I finally received my Type 2, and I would be completely stoked with it if I had ordered in a medium and not a large. Unless I'm wearing something thick underneath it it drowns me a bit, and I want to be able to wear it over a shirt or a t-shirt. How sad for me. Ah well.
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Post by jackgordon on May 9, 2015 22:28:03 GMT -6
Ordered as a Slim Small. I asked for my other LD denim shirts to be shortened as I don't tuck them and don't like them too long. I kept this one stock length as I will be tucking the lighter fabric. Lighter compared with 14oz and 16oz denim of my other western shirts. Here are the specs before wash. Will add post wash specs later. Pit to Pit 21" Shoulders 16.75" Arms 26.5" Waist 20.5" Front 24.25 Back 28.75" It looks like a great shirt but none of those measurements line up with the specs for a Slim Small. It's coming in big everywhere. Anyone else found this with their shirts?
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Post by jackgordon on May 8, 2015 16:46:48 GMT -6
My Type 2 (#304, 6 months) should arrive on Monday. Last night I had a dream that it arrived and it was made of a very thin purple corduroy, with a nylon shell back. The pockets were far from level and it was at least 2 sizes too big. As compensation for such a long wait, they also sent a pair of matching trousers.
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Post by jackgordon on May 4, 2015 2:44:39 GMT -6
I've got 4 hours in these x016's. So far the break in has been easy. I can tell these may very well be my best fitting, which is what I was after. The rise is about an inch more then Gustins, makes bending/squatting at work easier. I didn't buy these for the complexity of the denim, more for the construction and the 16oz. But they are interesting and growing on me as far as the look and feel of the denim. Smooth, softish, subtle slub, almost looks fuzzy (like the Loomies) but its an illusion when I look down, looking strait at them they are not fuzzy but smooth. Kind of cool and something only the wearer may notice. You say they fit like somewhere between a Gustin slim and straight—I think that's just what I'm looking for. The Gustin straights fit me well but I wouldn't mind them a little slimmer toward the hem. When you say the rise is an inch more than the Gustins, is that the slim or straight you're talking about? The low rise is the one thing that's put me off trying Gustin's slim cut. I guess I could go off and compare size charts, but they don't give me a clear idea of how things will fit.
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Post by jackgordon on May 2, 2015 10:08:31 GMT -6
I just got a shipping notice for #304. I'm concerned that none of the changes to the initial order (placed 6 months ago) have shown up on the invoice. This included minor details like changing from a Type 3 to a Type 2. I'm playing a whole new waiting game now. I think its a stategy LD uses, in that you wait so long, that eventually you'll be happy to get anything. Happy?! If they've sent the wrong thing I'll be f!@king livid. If I get what I ordered and it fits well I'll be delighted. My emotional wellbeing is dependent on that package.
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Post by jackgordon on May 1, 2015 19:01:39 GMT -6
I just got a shipping notice for #304. I'm concerned that none of the changes to the initial order (placed 6 months ago) have shown up on the invoice. This included minor details like changing from a Type 3 to a Type 2. I'm playing a whole new waiting game now.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 30, 2015 19:05:13 GMT -6
still no KS shirt. Countless emails back and forth, me saying" where's my shirt?", them saying" oh my gosh, we're so sorry, we'll send it ASAP". And don't tell me I should call them because no, I really shouldn't have to. You should hop a plane to Phoenix. Show up with an ice chest and a law chair. Set up camp and tell them you aren't leaving without a shit. Proceed to post pictures of your "sit in" on IG and tag ldandco. If you want results, bring a law chair.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 30, 2015 18:48:37 GMT -6
More tea less water. I used about 20 tea bags and only just enough water to submerge the shirt in a bucket, and even then it could have been stronger. I added a teaspoon of cream of tartar as a fixative. If anyone knows a better way I'd be happy to hear about it; I just did some rudimentary research and decided to try and fix a shirt I couldn't wear otherwise.
If it works well on the next dye I'll probably post up some pics.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 30, 2015 4:30:48 GMT -6
Placed and order for this shirt. Wish me luck on sizing Good luck on sizing. I've got a not too disimilar Sugar Cane shirt; I'd assume they run off similar size charts. For reference I'm 6'1" 185lbs and went for a Large. It's a bit of a boxier fit than I'd have liked, and the arms are definitely very roomy. I'd like it a bit slimmer, but I don't think I could get away with a Medium as it would be too short, especially in the arms. Also, good luck on the colour. I got mine from Rakuten and it looked like a great shade of indigo, but it arrived and it was that terrible blue that is neither indigo or navy or any shade that could be called light blue. My girlfriend kept abusing me for wearing it and I eventually had to concede she had a point. I decided to bleach it, which helped (though I didn't do the most even, uniform job), and I've given it a first green tea dye. Another go in the tea and I reckon I'll have a pretty good shirt.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 26, 2015 23:56:07 GMT -6
I'm trying to figure out how to protect the sides of the soles from getting color. I've seen some dye jobs on Chucks and the only think I don't like is the way the soles sort of get "half dyed" and just look sloppy. PVA glue? Or hang them up by the soles and paint it on. It'd be a shame if it bled right into the rubber.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 21, 2015 19:01:52 GMT -6
and still no KS shirt for me..... But hey, you can get a pair of women's jeans immediately! Get a pair of fat girl's jeans and send them back for tailoring.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 10, 2015 19:38:28 GMT -6
We believe the Lawless issues have been discussed to death. We do not want to have to lock these threads. We want members to be able to have a place to communicate about Lawless. We need to do it in a reasonable manner. Final notice on this thread. It's for reviewing products. No more of the talks of scams, ripoffs, etc. You're putting us on the line and from here on out, those posts will just go boom - no explanations - no talk. ¿Comprende? Thank you. When I see this thread is updated I think there might actually be a review of a Lawless item. It's the triumph of hope over experience. (Cue jokes about nobody receiving anything to review.) Save all the complaining for another thread (although the Order Update thread is extremely tedious as well), or file a class action.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 9, 2015 19:33:35 GMT -6
Of those 3 images I posted, it looks like only Paul Newman's is a suit that a man could wear today without looking too eccentric (depending on waistline and pleats, naturally). Grant's wide lapels and Sinatra's long pointed collar aren't really acceptable at the moment. My point was that they were 3 undeniably sharp dressers, and the button-down collar is only a detail to the overall look. It's like the difference between 2 buttons and 3, single-vented or double, having a pocket handkerchief or not. All are valid if done right. Saying that, I don't think I'd wear a Gustin shirt with a suit. Unless it was a denim work shirt under my safari suit. I'd never wear a Gustin shirt with a tie. But if I was going tie-lessly formal, I'd consider wearing their blue or white oxford button down with a suit. That sounds reasonable.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 9, 2015 18:49:50 GMT -6
Of those 3 images I posted, it looks like only Paul Newman's is a suit that a man could wear today without looking too eccentric (depending on waistline and pleats, naturally). Grant's wide lapels and Sinatra's long pointed collar aren't really acceptable at the moment.
My point was that they were 3 undeniably sharp dressers, and the button-down collar is only a detail to the overall look. It's like the difference between 2 buttons and 3, single-vented or double, having a pocket handkerchief or not. All are valid if done right.
Saying that, I don't think I'd wear a Gustin shirt with a suit. Unless it was a denim work shirt under my safari suit.
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Post by jackgordon on Apr 9, 2015 2:24:03 GMT -6
OCBD is a casual shirt, 100%. And yes, a button down collar with a suit is a very poor look. I haven't worn a button down collar with a tie since I was old enough to know better (high school maybe?) There are two ways of looking at this. You can either say "Cary Grant, Paul Newman and Frank Sinatra say you're wrong about that." Or you can say "unless you're Cary Grant, Paul Newman or Frank Sinatra you shouldn't wear a button-down shirt with a suit and tie."
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