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Post by davelewis on Jul 9, 2016 14:02:44 GMT -6
First, I don't think @david implied this, so this isn't meant to be a dig at him. It sucks that he got the bad-end of this. Now to my response: I know this is likely to gain me an Avenger title, but I think you're going to run into this sort of thing regardless of the "implied quality" of leather if they haven't been waterproofed or weather-proofed in any way whatsoever. It isn't a naturally waterproof material, it shouldn't be expected to behave like nylon. People shrink high quality hiking boots to their foot by soaking them in water (with feet in) knowing that the leather is going to shrink and change. It also stands to reason that, when soaked with water, you would see dye start to seep and run. Just remember why you usually wash black clothing by itself when you first get it, or why you separate your darks and your lights when doing laundry. oh yeah, i wasn't implying poor quality (though the bleeding is a bit extreme). they're definitely 'fashion' sneakers that were subjected to monsoon conditions. i literally poured water out of them when i got home. it was an unfortunate and unexpected situation. i wouldn't have worn them to ride that day had i known it was going to rain. i may contact gustin to tell them what happened...but mostly to see if they'll send me a pair of laces. I think you summed it up with the distinction of "fashion" sneakers. Last pair of leather sneakers I had were on the 1973 high school basketball team. Green suede Chuck Taylors, lol. I have shoes, and boots from the Horween tannery, and beat them, get them wet, etc, with no ill effects, but I would say its comparing apples to oranges.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 14:05:11 GMT -6
oh yeah, i wasn't implying poor quality (though the bleeding is a bit extreme). they're definitely 'fashion' sneakers that were subjected to monsoon conditions. i literally poured water out of them when i got home. it was an unfortunate and unexpected situation. i wouldn't have worn them to ride that day had i known it was going to rain. i may contact gustin to tell them what happened...but mostly to see if they'll send me a pair of laces. I think you summed it up with the distinction of "fashion" sneakers. Last pair of leather sneakers I had were on the 1973 high school basketball team. Green suede Chuck Taylors, lol. I have shoes, and boots from the Horween tannery, and beat them, get them wet, etc, with no ill effects, but I would say its comparing apples to oranges. absolutely. i wear my leather boots in all sorts of inclimate weather without fear of damage. i also typically treat them after the first few months of wear (then maybe yearly after that)
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Post by devastitis on Jul 9, 2016 15:07:10 GMT -6
I think you summed it up with the distinction of "fashion" sneakers. Last pair of leather sneakers I had were on the 1973 high school basketball team. Green suede Chuck Taylors, lol. I have shoes, and boots from the Horween tannery, and beat them, get them wet, etc, with no ill effects, but I would say its comparing apples to oranges. absolutely. i wear my leather boots in all sorts of inclimate weather without fear of damage. i also typically treat them after the first few months of wear (then maybe yearly after that) i don't mind wearing my RWs in rainy conditions, but even those I try to avoid submerging them in water. And those are heavily oiled. Leather sneakers don't enjoy that kind of treatment, and Tarrago Nano only does so much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 18:08:57 GMT -6
absolutely. i wear my leather boots in all sorts of inclimate weather without fear of damage. i also typically treat them after the first few months of wear (then maybe yearly after that) i don't mind wearing my RWs in rainy conditions, but even those I try to avoid submerging them in water. And those are heavily oiled. Leather sneakers don't enjoy that kind of treatment, and Tarrago Nano only does so much. Well, you do generally strive to keep things looking new for as long as possible...but I think a good general rule is to try not to submerge your footwear.
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Post by devastitis on Jul 10, 2016 10:05:35 GMT -6
i don't mind wearing my RWs in rainy conditions, but even those I try to avoid submerging them in water. And those are heavily oiled. Leather sneakers don't enjoy that kind of treatment, and Tarrago Nano only does so much. Well, you do generally strive to keep things looking new for as long as possible...but I think a good general rule is to try not to submerge your footwear. just saying, leather damage from water damage isn't indicative of leather quality. I don't expect my Aldens to be able to take that kind of damage either.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 9:44:33 GMT -6
Here are a couple of crappy in-office photos of the shoes. this is after they dried out, were cleaned, and conditioned. the dye cleaned off of the outsoles pretty well, except for the outsole stitching. i don't particularly like how they look now...but paid for them and will wear them a bit to see if they grow on me as they get worn/beat up a bit. the photos don't really capture how cruddy and orange the laces look. i think once they're replaced they'll look marginally better.
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Post by davelewis on Jul 11, 2016 12:30:27 GMT -6
Here are a couple of crappy in-office photos of the shoes. this is after they dried out, were cleaned, and conditioned. the dye cleaned off of the outsoles pretty well, except for the outsole stitching. i don't particularly like how they look now...but paid for them and will wear them a bit to see if they grow on me as they get worn/beat up a bit. the photos don't really capture how cruddy and orange the laces look. i think once they're replaced they'll look marginally better. I'd say if you don't like the laces, replace them, but otherwise I think they look fine. They now have character/patina.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jul 12, 2016 9:31:07 GMT -6
I don't think they look bad at all.
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Post by cassaruby on Jul 16, 2016 19:20:08 GMT -6
Got my Beckett simonon white low top leather sneakers. Sized down to 10 and they fit perfectly. The heel is not stabby either.
Came with white product stuff that has foreign words on it, shoehorn, black insole pads, and two bags... To put your shoes in separately or something.
Their last email said to condition them once a month with I assume the white foreign worded product stuff. Maybe I'll use the product on my Stan smith's too.
Anyways they seem pretty cool
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Post by mkeview on Jul 16, 2016 20:24:41 GMT -6
Same here. I'm extremely happy with them. Wore them twice. I think I like the G shapes a little better but not disappointed at all in my purchase.
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Post by drewcandraw on Jul 16, 2016 21:15:19 GMT -6
Got my Beckett simonon white low top leather sneakers. Sized down to 10 and they fit perfectly. The heel is not stabby either. Came with white product stuff that has foreign words on it, shoehorn, black insole pads, and two bags... To put your shoes in separately or something. Their last email said to condition them once a month with I assume the white foreign worded product stuff. Maybe I'll use the product on my Stan smith's too. Anyways they seem pretty cool Are you a 10.5 in nikes? How is width in toebox
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Post by cassaruby on Jul 16, 2016 23:28:36 GMT -6
Got my Beckett simonon white low top leather sneakers. Sized down to 10 and they fit perfectly. The heel is not stabby either. Came with white product stuff that has foreign words on it, shoehorn, black insole pads, and two bags... To put your shoes in separately or something. Their last email said to condition them once a month with I assume the white foreign worded product stuff. Maybe I'll use the product on my Stan smith's too. Anyways they seem pretty cool Are you a 10.5 in nikes? How is width in toebox The toebox is longer than Stan smith's and roomier than both the smith's and my af1s, which are both 10.5 us
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Post by yunix on Jul 20, 2016 19:49:57 GMT -6
Hey people. How did you guys like Gustin's Classic boots? I'm thinking about getting one of them this fall for my first pair. Seems like they use good materials and works with a reputable factory. That + GYW should mean that I don't have to buy another pair for a while.
However, are there anyone who can vouch for them? How have their leather boots held up? Is the 270 degree stitch a problem? Have you guys noticed QC problems or problems with stitching? How does their do in cold weather and salty roads like the ones in New England? Are you happy with the purchase?
Also kind of interesting that they used leather soles for some reason. I wouldn't think that would be as good as having wood or rubber soles. How are they?
Any input would be appreciated.
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Post by bbjr on Jul 21, 2016 9:09:53 GMT -6
Hey people. How did you guys like Gustin's Classic boots? I'm thinking about getting one of them this fall for my first pair. Seems like they use good materials and works with a reputable factory. That + GYW should mean that I don't have to buy another pair for a while. However, are there anyone who can vouch for them? How have their leather boots held up? Is the 270 degree stitch a problem? Have you guys noticed QC problems or problems with stitching? How does their do in cold weather and salty roads like the ones in New England? Are you happy with the purchase? Also kind of interesting that they used leather soles for some reason. I wouldn't think that would be as good as having wood or rubber soles. How are they? Any input would be appreciated. I've got the cxl natural boots, and I personally love them and think they are one of Gustin's top value products. I've had them for about 4-5 months, and I wear them about once every week or two. They have held up great so far, and I would rate the construction/materials as on par to slightly better than Wolverine 1000 miles and just below Red Wing Iron Rangers. I have one area of leather on the inner upper of one of the boots that is a little loose/wrinkly, but I've come to accept that when buying cxl boots at this price range. AFA the leather soles, I try to avoid wearing leather soles on days when it is raining/snowing, but if it ends up precipitating while I am out, I go about my day like normal and make sure to let the boots dry before wearing them again. Leather soles hold up surprisingly well and give boots more versatility IMO, because they are easier to dress both up and down. If you walk on a lot of pavement (many miles a day) you will see much quicker wear to the soles, but the same goes for rubber soles. The biggest disadvantage of the leather soles is that you do not get as much traction as a lug sole during the winter time. For comparison I also own Wolverine 1000 mile, Red Wing Iron Ranger, Allen Edmonds Dalton, and White's Farmer Rancher boots.
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Post by yunix on Jul 21, 2016 9:25:52 GMT -6
Hey people. How did you guys like Gustin's Classic boots? I'm thinking about getting one of them this fall for my first pair. Seems like they use good materials and works with a reputable factory. That + GYW should mean that I don't have to buy another pair for a while. However, are there anyone who can vouch for them? How have their leather boots held up? Is the 270 degree stitch a problem? Have you guys noticed QC problems or problems with stitching? How does their do in cold weather and salty roads like the ones in New England? Are you happy with the purchase? Also kind of interesting that they used leather soles for some reason. I wouldn't think that would be as good as having wood or rubber soles. How are they? Any input would be appreciated. I've got the cxl natural boots, and I personally love them and think they are one of Gustin's top value products. I've had them for about 4-5 months, and I wear them about once every week or two. They have held up great so far, and I would rate the construction/materials as on par to slightly better than Wolverine 1000 miles and just below Red Wing Iron Rangers. I have one area of leather on the inner upper of one of the boots that is a little loose/wrinkly, but I've come to accept that when buying cxl boots at this price range. AFA the leather soles, I try to avoid wearing leather soles on days when it is raining/snowing, but if it ends up precipitating while I am out, I go about my day like normal and make sure to let the boots dry before wearing them again. Leather soles hold up surprisingly well and give boots more versatility IMO, because they are easier to dress both up and down. If you walk on a lot of pavement (many miles a day) you will see much quicker wear to the soles, but the same goes for rubber soles. The biggest disadvantage of the leather soles is that you do not get as much traction as a lug sole during the winter time. For comparison I also own Wolverine 1000 mile, Red Wing Iron Ranger, Allen Edmonds Dalton, and White's Farmer Rancher boots. Wow! Thanks for the input. I would love to see some pictures of them after the months. The leather sole part is the one that worries me the most. I'm going to New England this winter and it's really, really troublesome if I have to avoid wearing them on rainy/snowy days, since those are the days that I will need that kind of leather the most. So it's good to know that their construction quality and leather quality is good. But I would still like to see some pictures if possible!
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Post by bbjr on Jul 21, 2016 10:04:59 GMT -6
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Post by matt on Aug 17, 2016 13:01:18 GMT -6
Intrigued by the Gustin IG tease of new trainers...the design looks solid, albeit I want to call them GEEZY's in honor of the Kayne West style.
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Post by rp15 on Aug 17, 2016 14:23:25 GMT -6
Intrigued by the Gustin IG tease of new trainers...the design looks solid, albeit I want to call them GEEZY's in honor of the Kayne West style. Air Gustins!!
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Post by matt on Aug 17, 2016 15:23:48 GMT -6
Intrigued by the Gustin IG tease of new trainers...the design looks solid, albeit I want to call them GEEZY's in honor of the Kayne West style. Air Gustins!! Oh jeez...I can only imagine the internal meetings..."Let's call it the Air Gustin...we can release them annually and generate a must-have appeal to these". Another employee: "umm...you know that name is probably copyright protected, right?"...Josh: "how about the Geezy?" Employee: ummm.... Josh: "the Gustin All Star! Or the Gustin Superstars!". Employee: "I resign."
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Post by rp15 on Aug 17, 2016 17:03:48 GMT -6
Shoes like these typically retail for 380 dollars at foot locker. Avoid waiting in line and avoid getting jumped by a bunch of armed thugs for your pair. With your support, we can do much better.
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Post by matt on Aug 17, 2016 17:53:30 GMT -6
I'm just calling these the GEEZY's.
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Post by rp15 on Aug 17, 2016 20:21:21 GMT -6
I'm just calling these the GEEZY's. Yes! Officially coined the Geezy's. I might have to back them so I can tell people I'm wearing the Geezy's.
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Post by drewcandraw on Aug 18, 2016 11:09:21 GMT -6
Just checked the ig to look at the sneakers. Unless they tell me a lot of information regarding the technology on the sole/midsole I'm skeptical about it. Looks like new balance x reeboks made a baby. It does not look anything like yeezys or any boost type adidas unless you guys are going by the sole material/sole look. I assume its going to be between $150-200 range and for that price I rather buy trainers from an established company. I assume they made some kinda foamy sole ala lunarlon which in my opinion is soft/plush but will wear out quick. Just my two cents as sneakerhead circa 2000. PS: I don't doubt it will sell if price is right as it could be compared to Epaulets sports trainers which are priced around that range. Just has a more modern look that people may prefer with joggers/skinny jeans
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Post by stinky on Aug 19, 2016 10:40:56 GMT -6
You know, it's funny . . . as someone who grew up poor wearing knockoff shoes (Hello, USA Olympics from JCP) while all of my friends were wearing Nike Cortez or those awesome blue and yellow waffle soled Nikes, I would never, ever, considering buying something like this, no matter the price, quality, or where they are made.
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Post by Griffin on Aug 21, 2016 13:19:13 GMT -6
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