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Jun 27, 2015 21:10:03 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 21:10:03 GMT -6
I really don't get it. Why do they have such problems with loomstate denim? For one of their more pricey offerings you'd think they would have watched the QC closely on this. I'm going to try mine on later tonight after they've finished drying but from what I can tell it looks like my 34 straights (which sewed up as 32 straights) shrunk up to a 33 slim which is perfect for me. I guess you post date the Beasts fiasco of summer '14.
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 21:51:22 GMT -6
I wasn't around for that one. Must have been bad.
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 21:57:35 GMT -6
Here's how mine turned out... Pre-Soak: Waist - 32.5" Thigh - 23" Knee - 17" Cuff - 17"
Post-soak (soaked in room temp/cold water while wearing): Waist - 32" Thigh - 22" Knee - 17" Cuff - 16"
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Post by ickes on Jun 27, 2015 22:00:41 GMT -6
Yeah it really does go to show that when purchasing heavyweight denim and/or loomstate denim it is a much wiser choice to go with a more expensive, higher end brand that has experience with these types of fabrics. You really cant afford cheap when it comes to those denims.
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Zimbabwes
Jun 27, 2015 22:11:31 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jun 27, 2015 22:11:31 GMT -6
Here's how mine turned out... Pre-Soak: Waist - 32.5" Thigh - 23" Knee - 17" Cuff - 17" Post-soak (soaked in room temp/cold water while wearing): Waist - 32" Thigh - 22" Knee - 17" Cuff - 16" So how are those measurements working for you? Was it a success?
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 22:20:25 GMT -6
Here's how mine turned out... Pre-Soak: Waist - 32.5" Thigh - 23" Knee - 17" Cuff - 17" Post-soak (soaked in room temp/cold water while wearing): Waist - 32" Thigh - 22" Knee - 17" Cuff - 16" So how are those measurements working for you? Was it a success? This is always a tough one for me because I'm of the shorter ilk (I stand 5'5") and it's always hard to tell until I get them hemmed. With them double-cuffed right now I'd say they will look more like a bootcut fit in the cuff compared to a slim - which I don't necessarily mind. It's also hard to tell since the fabric is so damn stiff from the weight and starch that I can't tell how they will look once the stacks subside and it drapes more naturally. If it comes to it I can always have them tapered by Railcar. Overall, considering this was my first foray into Loomstate denim I'm happy. I am glad that I took your advice and went with the straight vs slim option when I bought them. If they would have shrunk too much and I ended up with a skinny fit I would have been really bummed.
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 22:25:30 GMT -6
I was actually just thinking of trying to hang them up and drop the bottom 10" or so into a tub of warm/hot water to see if I could get the cuff to shrink up a bit so it is more of a slim fit.
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Zimbabwes
Jun 27, 2015 22:36:18 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jun 27, 2015 22:36:18 GMT -6
I was actually just thinking of trying to hang them up and drop the bottom 10" or so into a tub of warm/hot water to see if I could get the cuff to shrink up a bit so it is more of a slim fit. Try it...sounds like a cool idea actually
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 23:26:54 GMT -6
Done!
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Zimbabwes
Jun 28, 2015 0:58:27 GMT -6
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Post by nater on Jun 28, 2015 0:58:27 GMT -6
Result: no change whatsoever.
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Post by Marc on Jun 28, 2015 6:28:15 GMT -6
Here's how mine turned out... Pre-Soak: Waist - 32.5" Thigh - 23" Knee - 17" Cuff - 17" Post-soak (soaked in room temp/cold water while wearing): Waist - 32" Thigh - 22" Knee - 17" Cuff - 16" nater, How much did the inseam shrink?
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Post by univibe88 on Jun 28, 2015 7:09:33 GMT -6
I really don't get it. Why do they have such problems with loomstate denim? For one of their more pricey offerings you'd think they would have watched the QC closely on this. I'm going to try mine on later tonight after they've finished drying but from what I can tell it looks like my 34 straights (which sewed up as 32 straights) shrunk up to a 33 slim which is perfect for me. I guess you post date the Beasts fiasco of summer '14. I was around and I own beasts, but I don't recall the fiasco. Are you referring to how they sewed up small across the board?
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Post by brentkuz on Jun 28, 2015 7:27:44 GMT -6
Man the 26oz beast run and the 23oz both first runs sewed up comically small.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2015 7:47:31 GMT -6
I guess you post date the Beasts fiasco of summer '14. I was around and I own beasts, but I don't recall the fiasco. Are you referring to how they sewed up small across the board? sewing machines were broken, and there was a loud hubbub about how they were too small. Which was the reason why Gustin started recommending customers to size up on the heavier denims. Oh, and the radio silence from Gustin instead of addressing complaints. It was a mess. That and issues with a few other denims would probably have s&s denim scientists and denim historians agreeing that that was the start of the rise of LD.
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Post by scooter on Jun 28, 2015 8:32:16 GMT -6
Zoomies came in, and my initial impressions are mixed. After getting my hands on the Loomies, I had hoped they would have a similar character. But, there is really no comparison. The Loomies are far more slubby and hairy. The Zoomies and Kibata are very much the same in texture. The brown patch didn't win any points, either. However, the color is a winner, hands down. It is the deepest, and truest indigo of the three. Overall construction and detail is typical of Gustin, and I can see no glaring faults. All specs turned out good, with the exception of waist and inseam. The waist came roughly 36.75"-37" for a size 38. This actually is an advantage, as post-soak, they should be a bit more snug, but I believe will stretch perfectly. Inseam came 37". I won't go into extensive "pros" and "cons". But, here are what I feel are the advantages of each..... Zoomies Color* Weight Zimbabwe cotton Loomies Character and feel* Weft show* Patch Kibata Overall construction and detail Sewn to spec* Immediate delivery* Blueowl CS* Zimbabwe cotton Patch *denotes distinct advantage All things considered, I like the Zoomies. But, I can't say I love them. Their advantages are not enough to outweigh the disadvantages they have to the Loomies. Only $20 separates the 2, and I believe they should have been priced similarly. My feelings about the Kibata are the same as the Zoomies, like not love. But, paying an extra $25 for a very similar product, getting them in 2-3 days, and Blueowl CS to boot, made them a better overall value, IMO. This comparison has convinced me to pull my Loomies from B/S/T. They are, hands down, the best value of the 3. There is simply no comparison, when it comes to character. I believe the slubby texture, and weft show through will produce the best fades, as well. As far as any comparisons to Oni and TSG are concerned.....There is no comparison. They are both far superior to any of the 3. The Loomies are very close to the texture you get from TSG. But color and construction are far superior. My Oni are 22oz, and the slubbiest, hairiest beasts I've had the pleasure of wearing. There is no telling when the yen will strengthen. I suggest everyone take advantage of it, while you can. You can't beat the value we are currently getting.
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Zimbabwes
Jun 28, 2015 8:53:48 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jun 28, 2015 8:53:48 GMT -6
I guess you post date the Beasts fiasco of summer '14. I was around and I own beasts, but I don't recall the fiasco. Are you referring to how they sewed up small across the board? Yeah that's what he's referring to. Major QC issues (my 32 straights came in with a 30" waist, among other flaws), sewing machine(s) being broken, and the extended production time. However Gustin did say from the beginning that they'd be "done when they're done" so we all knew it would be a longer wait from the get go.
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Post by nater on Jun 28, 2015 9:18:16 GMT -6
Here's how mine turned out... Pre-Soak: Waist - 32.5" Thigh - 23" Knee - 17" Cuff - 17" Post-soak (soaked in room temp/cold water while wearing): Waist - 32" Thigh - 22" Knee - 17" Cuff - 16" nater, How much did the inseam shrink? I would say about 1.5-2.0"
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Post by Old26 on Jun 28, 2015 10:59:51 GMT -6
Man the 26oz beast run and the 23oz both first runs sewed up comically small. Yeah, I only really notice now that I've put on ~12 pounds. Can't button the tops, so I know it's time to get back on the fitness wagon. I do love the Beasts...imperfect, but awesome. And the pair reminds me of good times with you guys so it's not all bad!
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Post by oatwilly on Jun 28, 2015 11:19:57 GMT -6
My 38's came out good. Good in that they're wearable, I was worried they might shrink too much. Waist pre soak was 37.5-ish and came out at 35" lying flat. But it was hard getting a good accurate measurement because they are so stiff and wrinkly. They fit a little bigger than that, as a 35" waist would be too small on me, and while wearing I have a small amount of extra room (which is probably good to allow for any possible future shrinking). The most dramatic difference is in the rise. I didn't measure the rise pre soak but they were way high, and they came out at around 10.75 post soak, so they are officially now mid/low rise pants. The cuff opening didn't shrink at all. They started at 18" pre-soak and are the same post soak. This is fine with me as I need to be able to wear boots with them, and hate the trendy tiny ankles look. I didn't take any other measurements besides the waist and cuff opening pre soak, but I can tell you they were way big lol. Post soak overall elsewhere they are definitely not a G slim fit. Closer to Levi 501's fit with a lower rise. I didn't take any other measurements pre soak.
Hard to tell yet if I'm in love with them. I'll need to wear them for a few days to get a better opinion. But they are usable and wearable which is good because I was nervous about that. Based on my experience though I would buy future G loomstate jeans in the same size.
Color/texture look great to me, but I'm not as experienced with other brands as some of you guys are
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Post by p0rkbelly on Jun 29, 2015 7:08:51 GMT -6
My 33" Straights came out fairly good. Would have been nice for some more shrink on the waist and taper. I would say the rise feels really low, but it's fine for me, I am assuming that is why everyone said go with the straight instead of the slim?
Measurements after a ~2 Hour Hot/Warm Soak (Initially about 115F):
Waist: 31" Leg Opening: 7 3/4" Inseam: 32"
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32" waist (barely) 34" inseam 8 an 1/4" leg opening
So they sewed up small, and the shrink was not a full 2-3 sizes. Good thing they didn't sew up correctly first to begin with...
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Post by brentkuz on Jun 29, 2015 7:13:37 GMT -6
Man the 26oz beast run and the 23oz both first runs sewed up comically small. Yeah, I only really notice now that I've put on ~12 pounds. Can't button the tops, so I know it's time to get back on the fitness wagon. I do love the Beasts...imperfect, but awesome. And the pair reminds me of good times with you guys so it's not all bad! Ahh the good times. April 2014. How the times fly. Grey silks, 23oz and 26oz beasts. Carbonxcoffee were going to be created at 21oz. When Gustin cared about cool denim.
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Post by p0rkbelly on Jun 29, 2015 8:18:58 GMT -6
Yeah, I only really notice now that I've put on ~12 pounds. Can't button the tops, so I know it's time to get back on the fitness wagon. I do love the Beasts...imperfect, but awesome. And the pair reminds me of good times with you guys so it's not all bad! Ahh the good times. April 2014. How the times fly. Grey silks, 23oz and 26oz beasts. Carbonxcoffee were going to be created at 21oz. When Gustin cared about cool denim. We will see how these Zloomie's come out, but, I am pretty much done with Gustin. Especially when I live 5-10 minutes from BiG and Self Edge and get sized right and not wait 3 months. What bothers me, is I can't get a staple denim from them. If I want a ~14.0oz of Japanese or American Denim, I just can't get one -- plus basically only one pair fits in that catergory, Okayama Standards which are not easy to get... Think I'm just going to go pick a pair of the original 3sixteens ST-100x as my staple denim. Will look towards Oni for something unique or mid-weight. Wish Samurais had more choice in slimmer tapers. The one exception is that I might get a new pair of Grey Silks, I got mine in straight and the wrong size, then I damaged them when the iron was too hot. Ironically my favorite denim from them recently has been the Cone Quick Fades, was really surprised by them. Love the feel and color, and surprisingly, these have the least indigo staining/transfer to other things I have had yet...
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Post by bugula on Jun 29, 2015 8:41:07 GMT -6
What bothers me, is I can't get a staple denim from them. If I want a ~14.0oz of Japanese or American Denim, I just can't get one -- plus basically only one pair fits in that catergory, Okayama Standards which are not easy to get... not sure i understand this statement. you're not able to get one that you think should be your staple or you just can't find a regular/standard denim in a regular weight? i've been wearing the hell out of my pure blue 13s since i got them. standard denim with good weave and standard weft color, nice weight. i pull them off the rack every morning while longingly looking at my RgTs, Skulls, Whalls, and Left Fields - i want to wear those but these things are just more comfortable right now.
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Jun 29, 2015 8:43:46 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2015 8:43:46 GMT -6
Ahh the good times. April 2014. How the times fly. Grey silks, 23oz and 26oz beasts. Carbonxcoffee were going to be created at 21oz. When Gustin cared about cool denim. We will see how these Zloomie's come out, but, I am pretty much done with Gustin. Especially when I live 5-10 minutes from BiG and Self Edge and get sized right and not wait 3 months. What bothers me, is I can't get a staple denim from them. If I want a ~14.0oz of Japanese or American Denim, I just can't get one -- plus basically only one pair fits in that catergory, Okayama Standards which are not easy to get... Think I'm just going to go pick a pair of the original 3sixteens ST-100x as my staple denim. Will look towards Oni for something unique or mid-weight. Wish Samurais had more choice in slimmer tapers. The one exception is that I might get a new pair of Grey Silks, I got mine in straight and the wrong size, then I damaged them when the iron was too hot. Ironically my favorite denim from them recently has been the Cone Quick Fades, was really surprised by them. Love the feel and color, and surprisingly, these have the least indigo staining/transfer to other things I have had yet... which ones do you own by Gustin?
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Post by brentkuz on Jun 29, 2015 8:46:29 GMT -6
My daily pair has been my 15oz zimbs. Aweskme denim. They don't fade like traditional indigo more of a tarnished fade. I dog them.
I'm not a believer of paying more for zimb cotton now. Doesn't really feel that much different.
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