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Post by beeranddenim on Oct 6, 2015 18:56:30 GMT -6
My 33 slims are very snug right now. Dare I go 36"? I think maybe 35 straight? Man I have way too many pair of jeans. I'd do 35 slim. If they shrink like all other Cone unsanforized I know of, 36 might be too big even after soak. Maybe a hot soak? Levis stf I've always done hot. So maybe 35 slim warm soak. Like I need more jeans. |
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Post by beeranddenim on Oct 6, 2015 18:58:39 GMT -6
f!@k it I backed them. I should now have jeans for the next few decades. 35 slim.
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Post by variable on Oct 6, 2015 19:03:03 GMT -6
I'll have to see if I have the Cone Standard Cookie Sheet, to keep the waist from shrinking. All of my cookie sheets are too small by an inch. How is this possible? WERE THEY UNSANFORIZED?  Eh, we'll take a gamble. If I like the fit of a 34 straight, I need to order a 36. We can do this. |
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Post by matt on Oct 6, 2015 19:09:48 GMT -6
I'm currently sitting on a 35 slim (G 33 slim) but given what whiskeyriver noted about the overcompensation on actual shrinking, I may opt for 34 and cautiously soak or limit the full shrinkage to get my pair where I want them. Hell, time to measure some denim tonight. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 19:23:28 GMT -6
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Post by variable on Oct 6, 2015 19:25:52 GMT -6
I'm currently sitting on a 35 slim (G 33 slim) but given what whiskeyriver noted about the overcompensation on actual shrinking, I may opt for 34 and cautiously soak or limit the full shrinkage to get my pair where I want them. Hell, time to measure some denim tonight. I figure if the first soak with cold doesn't do it, filling a sink with boiling water will. #smurfmurderhappens |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 6, 2015 19:30:41 GMT -6
Already know mine are going to need to be Boiled and Oven Baked in order to get them to fit right. For now I have a 40"Slim ordered.
I need a 37-38" when its all shrunk and stretched.
should I really size up to a 40"? (There's no 39")
Or should I hope the 38" sews up big? Or the 40" sews up small?
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 19:42:45 GMT -6
Already know mine are going to need to be Boiled and Oven Baked in order to get them to fit right. For now I have a 40"Slim ordered. I need a 37-38" when its all shrunk and stretched. should I really size up to a 40"? (There's no 39") Or should I hope the 38" sews up big? Or the 40" sews up small? Hrmm....Well you could always go the "stick something in the waistband route." If it shows up at 40", I don't think you'll get enough shrink to go down to 37". Even a scald soak. If you could do 37" comfortably, I'd opt for 38" personally. But that's just me. |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 6, 2015 19:47:50 GMT -6
I'm currently sitting on a 35 slim (G 33 slim) but given what whiskeyriver noted about the overcompensation on actual shrinking, I may opt for 34 and cautiously soak or limit the full shrinkage to get my pair where I want them. Hell, time to measure some denim tonight. I'm normally a 33 slim and went 35 straight. UI haven't decided if that's where I'm gonna leave it, cause if the hem don't shrink it's gonna be a paddle-legs contest for me. edit: I should also note that a 34" waist is where I want to end up. worse comes to worse there may be time for a taper before the contest. |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 6, 2015 19:47:50 GMT -6
whiskeyriver lol, getting some love over on SF are you. Yeah, you don't want to Promote guys to buy and wear a Gustin product.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 19:49:00 GMT -6
whiskeyriver lol, getting some love over on SF are you. Yeah, you don't want to Promote guys to buy and wear a Gustin product. Yeah, seriously. What dingleberries. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 20:01:43 GMT -6
I'm currently sitting on a 35 slim (G 33 slim) but given what whiskeyriver noted about the overcompensation on actual shrinking, I may opt for 34 and cautiously soak or limit the full shrinkage to get my pair where I want them. Hell, time to measure some denim tonight. I'm normally a 33 slim and went 35 straight. UI haven't decided if that's where I'm gonna leave it, cause if the hem don't shrink it's gonna be a paddle-legs contest for me. edit: I should also note that a 34" waist is where I want to end up. worse comes to worse there may be time for a taper before the contest. In all the years I wore Levi's STF, the hem did not shrink very much. I mean, this may be some fabric Cone got kooky on and it will shrink more than all the other STF I've worn by them, but my money is on it's not. So I'm all in on a 1" on the waist, slightly smaller shrink than that in the thighs/legs, about 1" or MAAAYBE a bit more in inseam, and minimal in the hem like with all my other Cone STF stuff. All the STF stretches a lot too. So I want my pair to be TIIGHT at first. They'll hurt, but they'll mold and stretch and be perfect after that. |
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Post by variable on Oct 6, 2015 20:09:21 GMT -6
whiskeyriver lol, getting some love over on SF are you. Yeah, you don't want to Promote guys to buy and wear a Gustin product. Seriously? Are their jimmies that rustled? |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 6, 2015 20:11:19 GMT -6
I'm normally a 33 slim and went 35 straight. UI haven't decided if that's where I'm gonna leave it, cause if the hem don't shrink it's gonna be a paddle-legs contest for me. edit: I should also note that a 34" waist is where I want to end up. worse comes to worse there may be time for a taper before the contest. In all the years I wore Levi's STF, the hem did not shrink very much. I mean, this may be some fabric Cone got kooky on and it will shrink more than all the other STF I've worn by them, but my money is on it's not. So I'm all in on a 1" on the waist, slightly smaller shrink than that in the thighs/legs, about 1" or MAAAYBE a bit more in inseam, and minimal in the hem like with all my other Cone STF stuff. All the STF stretches a lot too. So I want my pair to be TIIGHT at first. They'll hurt, but they'll mold and stretch and be perfect after that. I'll think about it overnight and either switch to 35 slim or 34 straight, then. Maybe even 33 straight so I don't have to deal with the length. |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 6, 2015 20:15:05 GMT -6
I'm afraid if I do the Cookie Sheet process, the legs and hem will come up tight. I think I'd rather have baggy then skinny.
Maybe I'll spend another $75 and send them off to RailCar to be taken in and hemmed. So a $79 pair of jeans will cost $160.... Sigh
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Post by ickes on Oct 6, 2015 20:15:54 GMT -6
I'm normally a 33 slim and went 35 straight. UI haven't decided if that's where I'm gonna leave it, cause if the hem don't shrink it's gonna be a paddle-legs contest for me. edit: I should also note that a 34" waist is where I want to end up. worse comes to worse there may be time for a taper before the contest. In all the years I wore Levi's STF, the hem did not shrink very much. I mean, this may be some fabric Cone got kooky on and it will shrink more than all the other STF I've worn by them, but my money is on it's not. So I'm all in on a 1" on the waist, slightly smaller shrink than that in the thighs/legs, about 1" or MAAAYBE a bit more in inseam, and minimal in the hem like with all my other Cone STF stuff. All the STF stretches a lot too. So I want my pair to be TIIGHT at first. They'll hurt, but they'll mold and stretch and be perfect after that. I would always buy my 501 STFs at my actual waist size (meaning they fit perfect to snug at waist pre soak) but about 2-3" longer on the inseam. You're right about minimal waist shrinkage. The directions on the tag that say to buy 2-3" larger in the waist are bull shit and I got in to an argument with a manager at a Levis store over this once...lol. I told her that Levis seriously needs to change the directions on their STF tags and she didn't take too kindly to my thoughts. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 20:22:03 GMT -6
In all the years I wore Levi's STF, the hem did not shrink very much. I mean, this may be some fabric Cone got kooky on and it will shrink more than all the other STF I've worn by them, but my money is on it's not. So I'm all in on a 1" on the waist, slightly smaller shrink than that in the thighs/legs, about 1" or MAAAYBE a bit more in inseam, and minimal in the hem like with all my other Cone STF stuff. All the STF stretches a lot too. So I want my pair to be TIIGHT at first. They'll hurt, but they'll mold and stretch and be perfect after that. I would always buy my 501 STFs at my actual waist size (meaning they fit perfect to snug at waist pre soak) but about 2-3" longer on the inseam. You're right about minimal waist shrinkage. The directions on the tag that say to buy 2-3" larger in the waist are bull shit and I got in to an argument with a manager at a Levis store over this once...lol. I told her that Levis seriously needs to change the directions on their STF tags and she didn't take too kindly to my thoughts. Haha. That's awesome. I always got SOME shrink in the waist. But not much. More than the minimal you get on sanforized. But not enough to go up 2 sizes. Up 1 and I think you're pretty safe. And yeah, you really do want them tight post soak because they'll definitely stretch some. Only thing keeping me from getting these at actual waist is the worry of sewing up small you have with Gustin. |
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Post by variable on Oct 6, 2015 20:22:42 GMT -6
I would always buy my 501 STFs at my actual waist size (meaning they fit perfect to snug at waist pre soak) but about 2-3" longer on the inseam. You're right about minimal waist shrinkage. The directions on the tag that say to buy 2-3" larger in the waist are bull shit and I got in to an argument with a manager at a Levis store over this once...lol. I told her that Levis seriously needs to change the directions on their STF tags and she didn't take too kindly to my thoughts. So if I like a 34 straight, I should buy a 34 straight because it won't shrink that much in the waist? What about the other measurements? |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 6, 2015 20:23:38 GMT -6
I would always buy my 501 STFs at my actual waist size (meaning they fit perfect to snug at waist pre soak) but about 2-3" longer on the inseam. You're right about minimal waist shrinkage. The directions on the tag that say to buy 2-3" larger in the waist are bull shit and I got in to an argument with a manager at a Levis store over this once...lol. I told her that Levis seriously needs to change the directions on their STF tags and she didn't take too kindly to my thoughts. Yeah I'm probably just going to go regular size in straight since losing 2-3" off the inseam would put them right where I like them. If they submit as easily as everyone is saying, they'll be right where I need them. Or 34 slim, back to thinking about it. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 20:24:39 GMT -6
I would always buy my 501 STFs at my actual waist size (meaning they fit perfect to snug at waist pre soak) but about 2-3" longer on the inseam. You're right about minimal waist shrinkage. The directions on the tag that say to buy 2-3" larger in the waist are bull shit and I got in to an argument with a manager at a Levis store over this once...lol. I told her that Levis seriously needs to change the directions on their STF tags and she didn't take too kindly to my thoughts. So if I like a 34 straight, I should buy a 34 straight because it won't shrink that much in the waist? What about the other measurements? No, I'd go up 1 to be safe. |
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Post by variable on Oct 6, 2015 20:26:34 GMT -6
Done. They should say about how much % shrink to expect. Let people do their own math instead of being all vague and whatever.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Oct 6, 2015 20:31:35 GMT -6
Done. They should say about how much % shrink to expect. Let people do their own math instead of being all vague and whatever. For real. But they don't know and are covering their ass. They haven't gotten them sewed up yet, hence the sample square. It's not very nice of me to say, but I'd actually be surprised if any of them have ever worn a pair of Levi's STF in their lives. |
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Post by scooter on Oct 6, 2015 21:26:03 GMT -6
I love the idea. But, this pair just wouldn't do it for me. Not enough weight for work, or winter. |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 6, 2015 21:34:01 GMT -6
I love the idea. But, this pair just wouldn't do it for me. Not enough weight for work, or winter. I thought the same thing. But I'm thinking now it might make for a cool Wabisabi pair of patched and stitched pair of beaters. A good Spring,Summer,Fall thin pair to wear right through. I'm going to forego the Chain stitch and get a regular hem but double cuff. Maybe wash them with every dark wash and go for a washed out look. Use them to oil the Jeeps Frame, Paint some apt., Tar some roofs, etc |
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Post by matt on Oct 6, 2015 22:07:42 GMT -6
I would always buy my 501 STFs at my actual waist size (meaning they fit perfect to snug at waist pre soak) but about 2-3" longer on the inseam. You're right about minimal waist shrinkage. The directions on the tag that say to buy 2-3" larger in the waist are bull shit and I got in to an argument with a manager at a Levis store over this once...lol. I told her that Levis seriously needs to change the directions on their STF tags and she didn't take too kindly to my thoughts. Haha. That's awesome. I always got SOME shrink in the waist. But not much. More than the minimal you get on sanforized. But not enough to go up 2 sizes. Up 1 and I think you're pretty safe. And yeah, you really do want them tight post soak because they'll definitely stretch some. Only thing keeping me from getting these at actual waist is the worry of sewing up small you have with Gustin. As everyone scrambles to their order page to update their size from +2 to +1... Regarding the waist and avoiding shrink, would it make sense to soak it up to but not including the waist? I know that the denim will soak up most of the water, but what if you kept that part as is? I'm merely overthinking this through.  |
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