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Post by variable on Jan 17, 2016 16:04:43 GMT -6
So what has the consensus been on sizing? I know rise has been an issue. I own some Loomstates with a measured 10" rise post soak (33" waist) and some regular 32's with a 10" rise (32" waist). What would a 34 slim yield? I saw Matt ordered a pair but he's indicated 9 and 9.75" rise... I want a bit of a slimmer leg and cuff than my regulars cuts. I've lurked since y'all started this forum but this thread has motivated me to join and give this new campaign a shot Welcome! Look forward to your post. I feel like they didn't shrink to much and have stretched back to where they started. I'll post some measurements tomorrow now that I've got wear in them. The rise feels similar to other GSlims that I have. Cuff a bit slimmer then other G's. My 35 straights feel a little slimmer than a 34 straight after the soak and a wash, especially in the rise. But they aren't as slim as a regular slim, if that makes a lot of sense. |
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Post by timmyk on Jan 18, 2016 10:12:17 GMT -6
No out just yet. I'm trying to loose 10lbs, although I'n not sure that will make a huge difference- the jeans fit, the rise is just so low. Anyone else have this issue with the slims? Yeah, I certainly did. The rise is super low on the slims. I complained and they sent me a replacement pair in straight. Those ones had legs that were too wide for my taste, so I sent them off to Railcar but they arrived and did not feel much different. Those will be for sale in the sale forum soon. So I am rolling with the supertight slims haha. One last ditch effort to give yourself extra room in the seat/loosen up the top block is: 1. When dry, shove your hands in the back of your pants while wearing, and do squats in them. Keep doing until it stretches enough to make a fist and keep doing. It'll also stretch out the waist, and thus why I call this "last ditch," so you'll have to cinch them a bit with a belt. I used to do this when I had jeans that had a too-tight top block/low rise. I got enough stretch to make things workable. 2. If this doesn't work, soak the top block only and repeat when wet. It sounds totally silly, but it has worked in the past for me. After taking your advice I am back in action. The rise is serviceable, and I have begun to wear mine on a semi-regular basis. These will be great come spring/summer but are a little light for Canadian winters. They are at the bottom of my depth chart right now but that should change once the weather starts warming up. |
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Post by beeranddenim on Jan 18, 2016 10:51:47 GMT -6
I can barely fit my 32 straights right now so I consider myself a 33 straight. My 33 slim is tight too.
I ordered these 2 sizes up in 35 slim and they're great. I've become used to the ride tho I sort of hike em up when I sit down. They definitely stretch
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 10:58:59 GMT -6
considering backing the current campaign as a summer pair. did these arrive under spec across the board?
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Post by DigDug on Jan 18, 2016 11:03:45 GMT -6
considering backing the current campaign as a summer pair. did these arrive under spec across the board? I think the census is yes. Most complaints seem to be about the rise. Though I feel like mine have stretched to be similar to other pairs I have. I'm going to measure up mine now that they've been soaked and worn/stretched. |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 18, 2016 11:10:11 GMT -6
considering backing the current campaign as a summer pair. did these arrive under spec across the board? The only part of my 34 straight that was under pspec was the hem width. |
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Post by DigDug on Jan 18, 2016 11:35:32 GMT -6
So here's the measurements after a cold soak (30 min) and 2 weeks of daily wear (light work and around the house)
38 Slim
Front Rise - 9.75"
Rear Rise - 14"
Thigh - 13"
Knee - 9.5"
Cuff (no hem) - 8"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 11:58:55 GMT -6
So here's the measurements after a cold soak (30 min) and 2 weeks of daily wear (light work and around the house) 38 Slim Front Rise - 9.75" Rear Rise - 14" Thigh - 13" Knee - 9.5" Cuff (no hem) - 8" you ordered your standard size, or sized up? that rise is pretty far under...more like the rise of a 30 or 31 slim. |
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Post by DigDug on Jan 18, 2016 12:05:44 GMT -6
So here's the measurements after a cold soak (30 min) and 2 weeks of daily wear (light work and around the house) 38 Slim Front Rise - 9.75" Rear Rise - 14" Thigh - 13" Knee - 9.5" Cuff (no hem) - 8" you ordered your standard size, or sized up? that rise is pretty far under...more like the rise of a 30 or 31 slim. I guess I went with my regular size 38 Slim. I could go with a 37 on most G's but at one time they didn't have them, I gained or lost weight, or as is the case with the 21G's I believe they will sew up small so I went with the 38's. I don't have much of an ass so a smaller rise is more forgiving on me. |
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Post by DigDug on Jan 18, 2016 12:07:48 GMT -6
I'd size up 1. Do a cold soak. If that's not good do a Hot soak. But I wouldn't put them in the dryer.
You could even do a half and half soak (cold on the bottom hot on top or vise versa)
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Post by exophobe on Jan 18, 2016 12:32:00 GMT -6
you ordered your standard size, or sized up? that rise is pretty far under...more like the rise of a 30 or 31 slim. The most dramatic shrinkage you will see is in the length, this includes the rise. If you look around at the commentary for all Gustin loomstate and unsanforized, you will find the most common complaint is the post-soak rise on the slim cut. I wish Gustin had been running an online form where you could go and put in your post-soak measurements, from which they would create averages and adjust their unsanforized patterns so that people could just buy their regular size after the first couple runs, but that's not going to happen. After buying these one size up and in straight (I usually do 33 slim, ordered these in 34 straight), and then running them through a cold wash cycle in the washing machine, I would recommend that you get the straight cut, but order two sizes up. If this comes in a little small, you'll still be fine with a cold soak, and if they come in on-spec, you can increase the water temperature -- but more importantly after shrink you'll be in a much better situation with the rise. If you have the unfortunate luck of a hem width that comes in to spec, then you're looking at a taper at railcar which doesn't cost too much if I remember right (no personal experience with this). If they come in way off-spec, you're just going to return them anyway. If you're not cool with any of the wishy-washiness above, don't buy loomstate or unsanforized from Gustin. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 18, 2016 12:33:25 GMT -6
Man that rise is just crazy low. I couldn't do these.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 18, 2016 12:36:05 GMT -6
Man that rise is just crazy low. I couldn't do these. You would have ordered the straight, though. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 18, 2016 12:39:23 GMT -6
Man that rise is just crazy low. I couldn't do these. You would have ordered the straight, though. True, but like @david said the rise on digdugs are more like a 30 or 31 slim when he ordered a 38 slim. Wonder how the rise sewed up on the straights. |
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Post by DigDug on Jan 18, 2016 12:40:24 GMT -6
By comparison, my American Heavies have a 10.5" front rise.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 18, 2016 12:48:37 GMT -6
True, but like @david said the rise on digdugs are more like a 30 or 31 slim when he ordered a 38 slim. Wonder how the rise sewed up on the straights. On my post-soak 34 straight I've got a bit more rise than on my 33 slims. But this is like the fifth time I've said that, so I'm gonna drop it now. |
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Post by scooter on Jan 18, 2016 13:23:01 GMT -6
You would have ordered the straight, though. True, but like @david said the rise on digdugs are more like a 30 or 31 slim when he ordered a 38 slim. Wonder how the rise sewed up on the straights. My 37 straight came at 11.25", .5"-.75" under spec. They soaked to 11". The rise is right in my comfort zone. Oddly, the rise didn't shrink much at all for me. The back rise started at 14.75", and remained there, post soak. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 18, 2016 13:36:06 GMT -6
True, but like @david said the rise on digdugs are more like a 30 or 31 slim when he ordered a 38 slim. Wonder how the rise sewed up on the straights. My 37 straight came at 11.25", .5"-.75" under spec. They soaked to 11". The rise is right in my comfort zone. Oddly, the rise didn't shrink much at all for me. The back rise started at 14.75", and remained there, post soak. Thanks scooter, that info is helpful. Generally the rise won't shrink more than .3" |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:52:05 GMT -6
you ordered your standard size, or sized up? that rise is pretty far under...more like the rise of a 30 or 31 slim. The most dramatic shrinkage you will see is in the length, this includes the rise. If you look around at the commentary for all Gustin loomstate and unsanforized, you will find the most common complaint is the post-soak rise on the slim cut. I wish Gustin had been running an online form where you could go and put in your post-soak measurements, from which they would create averages and adjust their unsanforized patterns so that people could just buy their regular size after the first couple runs, but that's not going to happen. After buying these one size up and in straight (I usually do 33 slim, ordered these in 34 straight), and then running them through a cold wash cycle in the washing machine, I would recommend that you get the straight cut, but order two sizes up. If this comes in a little small, you'll still be fine with a cold soak, and if they come in on-spec, you can increase the water temperature -- but more importantly after shrink you'll be in a much better situation with the rise. If you have the unfortunate luck of a hem width that comes in to spec, then you're looking at a taper at railcar which doesn't cost too much if I remember right (no personal experience with this). If they come in way off-spec, you're just going to return them anyway. If you're not cool with any of the wishy-washiness above, don't buy loomstate or unsanforized from Gustin. i'm well aware of the shrink characteristics of denim both sanf and unsanf, and i'd say in most cases it's relatively easy to size appropriately based on makers' size numbers. my question here is mostly related to what's in the fit guide vs what's actually being produced. i like the look of these and the price is right...but not sure if i want to deal with the fit roulette. ~9.6" ish is my low limit on FR for a ~32" waist. you'd think they'd be able to roughly hit their numbers, or at least revise them considering this isn't a wildly heavy or otherwise unruly fabric. seems like i'd either be gambling with rise (slims) or cuff (straights). an online form would be nice, and we were running one for a while...but you're at the mercy of everyone's variation in measuring techniques (and calibrations  ) . instead of them maintaining another site/form with that data i'd personally prefer them tighten up their tolerances a bit and maybe post some averages of their own rather than just some wishy washy statements tossed into the product copy. |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 18, 2016 14:32:00 GMT -6
So I went up 3 sizes. Im a 35 slim tight, and these are 38 slim. I machine washed them warm and tumbled hot and they got pretty much perfect, but the back rise is a little annoying, else they are fine.
They do not fit as good as the loomies that I also got in a 38, but back then it was bc they didnt even have 37 so i kinda had to.
I tried a 36 first but they were super tight, they are for sale for any amount of money due to a popped top button, replaced a little to the side and leaving alittle hole from the original button (it can easily be criss-cross sewed by hand to and maybe superglued and im sure it will never be a problem.
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Post by Griffin on Jan 18, 2016 14:40:05 GMT -6
Btw when im sitting in my sofa right now, the edge of the backrise of these 38 are a fair bit below the start of my buttcrack. So just picture that and enjoy the evening. I say this for scientific visualization and to help the brahs choose wisely.
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Post by ickes on Jan 18, 2016 15:44:12 GMT -6
Btw when im sitting in my sofa right now, the edge of the backrise of these 38 are a fair bit below the start of my buttcrack. So just picture that and enjoy the evening. I say this for scientific visualization and to help the brahs choose wisely. That was my first thought when I started seeing the rise measurements.....man there's going to be a lot of buttcrack showing. |
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Post by variable on Jan 18, 2016 22:10:39 GMT -6
Btw when im sitting in my sofa right now, the edge of the backrise of these 38 are a fair bit below the start of my buttcrack. So just picture that and enjoy the evening. I say this for scientific visualization and to help the brahs choose wisely. That was my first thought when I started seeing the rise measurements.....man there's going to be a lot of buttcrack showing. Get your long-tailed t-shirts from Duluth Trading. Heh. |
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Post by tresmonos on Jan 19, 2016 19:03:56 GMT -6
So I went up 3 sizes. Im a 35 slim tight, and these are 38 slim. I machine washed them warm and tumbled hot and they got pretty much perfect, but the back rise is a little annoying, else they are fine. They do not fit as good as the loomies that I also got in a 38, but back then it was bc they didnt even have 37 so i kinda had to. I tried a 36 first but they were super tight, they are for sale for any amount of money due to a popped top button, replaced a little to the side and leaving alittle hole from the original button (it can easily be criss-cross sewed by hand to and maybe superglued and im sure it will never be a problem. Griffin, about how much did your waist shrink? I want something than a 32 regular and sized up to a 34 reg for the Loomstates and still want a slimmer leg... Thinking of a 35 slim edit: just saw it shrunk to 17.5". Damn, 35 slim it is... Or I may do a 33 reg and hope for waist stretch |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 20, 2016 2:58:47 GMT -6
My numbers are not really accurate tho. I have wide hipbones...integrated cookie-sheet if you will....and the 36 I got at first was hotsoaked with me sitting in them and when I sit they get stretch even more, so i suspect they just didn't shrink past my hips (duh) but if I hadn`t been there they would absolutely have shrunk more.
It also depends on how the current size fit. My 35 slims are snug so 3 sizes was ok. If the were looser a 37 could have worked.
I will say this tho - they shrank most in the waist and length and not at all as much in the total width through the legs like the loomies. The loomies I have to use both hands to get over my lower legs - the antiques are not like that.
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) . instead of them maintaining another site/form with that data i'd personally prefer them tighten up their tolerances a bit and maybe post some averages of their own rather than just some wishy washy statements tossed into the product copy.