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Jan 20, 2015 21:11:57 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Jan 20, 2015 21:11:57 GMT -6
Does someone want to give me a nice long good reason why I should back the Zimbs? I really really really want a pair, but I have silks, japan black blacks, the 23s, and a nice pair of in cloudiness japanese indigo pants, so I don't really like... need another pair of indigos... Or you could say that Zim cotton is to denim what a BMW Mseries is to cars. You can't really appreciate it until you've driven one. |
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Jan 20, 2015 21:15:32 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Jan 20, 2015 21:15:32 GMT -6
Does someone want to give me a nice long good reason why I should back the Zimbs? I really really really want a pair, but I have silks, japan black blacks, the 23s, and a nice pair of in cloudiness japanese indigo pants, so I don't really like... need another pair of indigos... Or Zim cotton is like a good Bourbon and others are like Beer/Wine/Zima  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 21:21:36 GMT -6
i backed the zimb15s this campaign. it was being backed feverishly the first 2 days, then really slowed down for the last few. i backed them in a 32slim. there's a pair of 31slims in the stock store...if i knew they sewed up even a little bit large i'd probably pick those up and cancel the others.
looking forward to seeing if mythical allure of the zimb cotton holds true.
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Post by robert on Jan 20, 2015 21:23:22 GMT -6
Does someone want to give me a nice long good reason why I should back the Zimbs? I really really really want a pair, but I have silks, japan black blacks, the 23s, and a nice pair of in cloudiness japanese indigo pants, so I don't really like... need another pair of indigos... You've come to the wrong place if you're looking for someone to talk you out of it. I'm assuming based on the "really really really" that you're gonna back them anyway. Only reason I can think of is if you happened to find the fabric somewhere else, in a cut you trust, for cheaper, next day delivery. If you find such a place, though, you may get stabbed on the way. Well I had them backed as soon as I saw them, at like 12:01, then a few days later I unbacked them cause it was 140 bucks I wasn't sure I wanted to spend, for the reasons listed. That money could be spent on a new shirt, or go towards some shoes. But Zimbs were my first pair, I had to send them back cause they were too big, and I've wanted them ever since. EDIT: woah! I leave my computer for 20 minutes and a bajillion more responses show up. Diggy, I've experienced fresh ones, and really liked them. I've also never driven a BMW, but I have certainly experienced wildly fine beverages.... Has the fading been good? I really like good contrast fading, not the subtle crap, but not like absolutely beating the f!@king shit out of denim, but great, noticeable electric blues and then some. Is the 15 oz substantial enough to have that really worn in, fitting, sweatpants feel? Also also, how's the stretching been? I've been getting all my gustins in 35s, and they've been great, just a little bit of pull when I first put them on, not so much on the silks, I could definitely feel it on the blacks, and DEFINITELY on the 23s. Should I size down to 34 on these? If they stretch out to 35.5 or so they would fit really really really well. |
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Jan 20, 2015 21:46:57 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 21:46:57 GMT -6
You've come to the wrong place if you're looking for someone to talk you out of it. I'm assuming based on the "really really really" that you're gonna back them anyway. Only reason I can think of is if you happened to find the fabric somewhere else, in a cut you trust, for cheaper, next day delivery. If you find such a place, though, you may get stabbed on the way. Well I had them backed as soon as I saw them, at like 12:01, then a few days later I unbacked them cause it was 140 bucks I wasn't sure I wanted to spend, for the reasons listed. That money could be spent on a new shirt, or go towards some shoes. But Zimbs were my first pair, I had to send them back cause they were too big, and I've wanted them ever since. EDIT: woah! I leave my computer for 20 minutes and a bajillion more responses show up. Diggy, I've experienced fresh ones, and really liked them. I've also never driven a BMW, but I have certainly experienced wildly fine beverages.... Has the fading been good? I really like good contrast fading, not the subtle crap, but not like absolutely beating the f!@king shit out of denim, but great, noticeable electric blues and then some. Is the 15 oz substantial enough to have that really worn in, fitting, sweatpants feel? Also also, how's the stretching been? I've been getting all my gustins in 35s, and they've been great, just a little bit of pull when I first put them on, not so much on the silks, I could definitely feel it on the blacks, and DEFINITELY on the 23s. Should I size down to 34 on these? If they stretch out to 35.5 or so they would fit really really really well. I don't totally disagree with people's points here but if you can use the money for something different to build out your wardrobe, I would not buy something similiar to your existing indigo jeans. If you have pretty much everything, then it is a moot point. |
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Jan 20, 2015 21:47:36 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Jan 20, 2015 21:47:36 GMT -6
My experience is very limited (1 pair of KMW that I put a year of wear in, 1 pair of Gustins with 6 months of wear, and some online research years ago).
That being said my experience with fading is NO, not much high contrast fades. The cotton (or it could be the mills tight weaving) has a smoothness to it. There doesn't seem to be as much of a raised weave compared to Cone denim. So it wears (gets dirty) more even over all. I'd say it is even has a little more abrasion proof on a micro level then other denims that have a loose weave (or it could be because of the long staple cotton).
But I think that's what makes it look more like it Patina's instead of fades.
They still seem like they'll get that electric blue. But a bit more even.
Take my post with a grain of Salt. They are pricy jeans.
I'll try to post some close up pics tomorrow, comparing them to my Ok's
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 21:58:07 GMT -6
You've come to the wrong place if you're looking for someone to talk you out of it. I'm assuming based on the "really really really" that you're gonna back them anyway. Only reason I can think of is if you happened to find the fabric somewhere else, in a cut you trust, for cheaper, next day delivery. If you find such a place, though, you may get stabbed on the way. Well I had them backed as soon as I saw them, at like 12:01, then a few days later I unbacked them cause it was 140 bucks I wasn't sure I wanted to spend, for the reasons listed. That money could be spent on a new shirt, or go towards some shoes. But Zimbs were my first pair, I had to send them back cause they were too big, and I've wanted them ever since. EDIT: woah! I leave my computer for 20 minutes and a bajillion more responses show up. Diggy, I've experienced fresh ones, and really liked them. I've also never driven a BMW, but I have certainly experienced wildly fine beverages.... Has the fading been good? I really like good contrast fading, not the subtle crap, but not like absolutely beating the f!@king shit out of denim, but great, noticeable electric blues and then some. Is the 15 oz substantial enough to have that really worn in, fitting, sweatpants feel? Also also, how's the stretching been? I've been getting all my gustins in 35s, and they've been great, just a little bit of pull when I first put them on, not so much on the silks, I could definitely feel it on the blacks, and DEFINITELY on the 23s. Should I size down to 34 on these? If they stretch out to 35.5 or so they would fit really really really well. Well you aren't a Gustin nub, so you know that if you size down, the other measurements tighten up as well, not just the waist. No one can give you advice regarding sizing down, you probably already have it all figured out already. The rest of the answers to your questions are probably in this thread, as pretty much all details on the Zimbs have been brought up. |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 20, 2015 23:34:40 GMT -6
You've come to the wrong place if you're looking for someone to talk you out of it. I'm assuming based on the "really really really" that you're gonna back them anyway. Only reason I can think of is if you happened to find the fabric somewhere else, in a cut you trust, for cheaper, next day delivery. If you find such a place, though, you may get stabbed on the way. Well I had them backed as soon as I saw them, at like 12:01, then a few days later I unbacked them cause it was 140 bucks I wasn't sure I wanted to spend, for the reasons listed. That money could be spent on a new shirt, or go towards some shoes. But Zimbs were my first pair, I had to send them back cause they were too big, and I've wanted them ever since. EDIT: woah! I leave my computer for 20 minutes and a bajillion more responses show up. Diggy, I've experienced fresh ones, and really liked them. I've also never driven a BMW, but I have certainly experienced wildly fine beverages.... Has the fading been good? I really like good contrast fading, not the subtle crap, but not like absolutely beating the f!@king shit out of denim, but great, noticeable electric blues and then some. Is the 15 oz substantial enough to have that really worn in, fitting, sweatpants feel? Also also, how's the stretching been? I've been getting all my gustins in 35s, and they've been great, just a little bit of pull when I first put them on, not so much on the silks, I could definitely feel it on the blacks, and DEFINITELY on the 23s. Should I size down to 34 on these? If they stretch out to 35.5 or so they would fit really really really well. In my recent experience, Gustin has been nailing their fit guide pretty reliably. So if you can deal with a 34.5 waist (and the narrower legs, which is what would concern me more than the waist when sizing down) to start off, then I would expect the Zim15 to stretch an inch in the waist without too much trouble. I have all three Zim weights that G has run, and they all stretched readily in the waist. DigDug's description of how the Zim15 fades is consistent with my experience with them. He's worn them probably 2-3x more often than I have. If you want eye-catching geometric fades, I'm not sure the Zim15 is gonna give it to you. They're just too damn durable. If you're satisfied with a more broadly "lived in" look, then you're in business. Hope that helps. |
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Post by DigDug on Jan 21, 2015 21:17:47 GMT -6
So here's a pic with the Zim's on top and the Okayama's on bottom (they seemed to be the most compared). They both have had about the same amount of time and type of work done in them. Not sure if the pic shows what I've posted (doing it all from my iphone4).  The Zim's on top IRL have a more smooth supple hand and not your typical standard fade. |
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Post by marauder on Jan 21, 2015 21:42:47 GMT -6
Are these Zim 18s or 15s?
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Jan 21, 2015 21:49:59 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Jan 21, 2015 21:49:59 GMT -6
Are these Zim 18s or 15s? 15oz |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 21, 2015 23:03:33 GMT -6
So here's a pic with the Zim's on top and the Okayama's on bottom (they seemed to be the most compared). They both have had about the same amount of time and type of work done in them. Not sure if the pic shows what I've posted (doing it all from my iphone4). The Zim's on top IRL have a more smooth supple hand and not your typical standard fade. Ooh I like the look of the Oka's. They always pop up when I'm hating on indigo denim, but the American Sixteeners make me want more (mustn't forget what I have coming from Lawless.. shit I've forgotten), I may need to finally get on some of that the next one or two times around (though I think I'm reserving my next indigo spot for a pair of loomies or those damn E5's in that other thread). |
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Post by bentin on Jan 21, 2015 23:18:05 GMT -6
Thanks DIgDug for the pics. Not that I don't like the G Zimbos but I really prefer the texture of the Oki's. Mine are still raw, I'm really looking forward to their first wash.
Like Exophobe, I think I'm holding out for E5's and also a pair of the Japan Blue Zimbabwe / Memphis jeans.
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Jan 21, 2015 23:23:08 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Jan 21, 2015 23:23:08 GMT -6
My Ok's may still be my favorite. I like each of them for different reasons.
BUT there's a new player in town - Loomies!
I'll try to post some full jean pics tomorrow of the Zim and Ok's
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Post by nater on Jan 21, 2015 23:25:19 GMT -6
The first run of Zimbs was my first pair of gustins. I loved them so very dearly, but I had to send them back since they were too big since I didn't size down at all. Damn damn damn... If they come back, or if anyone is looking to dump off Zimbs, Zimblites, or King Zimbs in a 35 or 34 Slim, challah atcha boi. I have a pair of the Zimb's in a 33 slim that I may be parting with. Any interest? |
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Jan 22, 2015 6:39:07 GMT -6
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Post by nater on Jan 22, 2015 6:39:07 GMT -6
Imgur album with additional images and higher-res versions of these is HERE. One big, happy, long-staple family:  Detail on the ZimLites:  Detail on the King Zims (they're just gagging for a chunky veg tan patch):  Big time jealous of those Zimb lights! |
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Jan 22, 2015 6:57:25 GMT -6
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 22, 2015 6:57:25 GMT -6
Does someone want to give me a nice long good reason why I should back the Zimbs? I really really really want a pair, but I have silks, japan black blacks, the 23s, and a nice pair of in cloudiness japanese indigo pants, so I don't really like... need another pair of indigos... Or you could say that Zim cotton is to denim what a BMW Mseries is to cars. You can't really appreciate it until you've driven one. Overhyped, over priced and not nearly as refined as it's counterparts? |
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Jan 22, 2015 7:17:07 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 7:17:07 GMT -6
Or you could say that Zim cotton is to denim what a BMW Mseries is to cars. You can't really appreciate it until you've driven one. Overhyped, over priced and not nearly as refined as it's counterparts? I test drove the M4 and it is pretty good but a bit overprice. What car you consider as the counterparts? |
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Jan 22, 2015 7:31:49 GMT -6
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 22, 2015 7:31:49 GMT -6
AMG line, cts-v, Audi S line (I know duck about Audi as I've never liked them) depends on if you're looking for more sporty or more luxury but I'll throw the GTR in the mix.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 22, 2015 8:14:11 GMT -6
Big time jealous of those Zimb lights! I'm wearing them today, which seems ridiculous in the middle of January. But, you know, Florida gonna Florida. Honestly, I'm still not quite sure what to make of these. Some days the streaky texture just isn't doing it for me, and other days (like today) I'm like, "Hey, that's actually a little bit of alright." The most important thing is they are crazy comfortable. Also, I have both 35 and 36 Straight among my various Gustins, and these are by far my best-fitting pair of 35s. So I have that going for me. Which is nice. |
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Jan 22, 2015 8:15:02 GMT -6
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Post by exophobe on Jan 22, 2015 8:15:02 GMT -6
AMG line, cts-v, Audi S line (I know duck about Audi as I've never liked them) depends on if you're looking for more sporty or more luxury but I'll throw the GTR in the mix. One doesn't buy a luxury sports car because it's reasonably priced. They're a passion play, and priced as such. I've never read a bad review of an m car, and you have to give BMW some credit for keeping the muscle car thing going while American manufacturers struggled with identity. If speed to money ratio is your concern, then your choices are wrx, gtr. Neither of which are particularly pretty. You can mix Porsche in there, but the gtr is going to be a better "value". |
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Post by mkeview on Jan 22, 2015 9:15:52 GMT -6
The first run of Zimbs was my first pair of gustins. I loved them so very dearly, but I had to send them back since they were too big since I didn't size down at all. Damn damn damn... If they come back, or if anyone is looking to dump off Zimbs, Zimblites, or King Zimbs in a 35 or 34 Slim, challah atcha boi. I have a pair of the Zimb's in a 33 slim that I may be parting with. Any interest? I am sent a message to your inbox. |
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Post by Canucklehead on Jan 22, 2015 9:58:54 GMT -6
I've also jumped into the Zimbabwe's head-first. Picked up the Zimb 15's last summer, then the superlights in the Fall. After 6 months in the rotation (of about 10 pairs right now), I definitely have to agree that the Zimb 15's are my favourite pair from Gustin. For me it's right in the sweetspot for weight and amazingly soft on the inside. They're definitely not fading much yet but they've only got about fifteen wears in, so far.
Unfortunately I didn't receive the superlights until early December, so they'll be sitting in my closet for another few months. It's damn cold up here! I won't be wearing anything under 12 oz until it warms up a bit.
I've also got the Okayamas, and I love the weight and feel, but unfortunately for me they sewed up on the tight side of the range, so they've been a bear to break in. The jeans themselves look great, but unfortunately I think the fit has stopped me from really loving them. Hopefully they continue to relax a bit.
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Jan 23, 2015 3:11:17 GMT -6
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 23, 2015 3:11:17 GMT -6
AMG line, cts-v, Audi S line (I know duck about Audi as I've never liked them) depends on if you're looking for more sporty or more luxury but I'll throw the GTR in the mix. One doesn't buy a luxury sports car because it's reasonably priced. They're a passion play, and priced as such. I've never read a bad review of an m car, and you have to give BMW some credit for keeping the muscle car thing going while American manufacturers struggled with identity. If speed to money ratio is your concern, then your choices are wrx, gtr. Neither of which are particularly pretty. You can mix Porsche in there, but the gtr is going to be a better "value". I left 2 seaters out since the M is a four seater. And please feel free to point out the BMW muscle car you speak of? |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 23, 2015 9:07:20 GMT -6
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