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Post by matt on Oct 22, 2014 22:17:46 GMT -6
I ask the question on accuracy - as you can see from this prior thread, I posted up my measurements of a couple basic button-downs (unwashed, dry cleaned only to keep the fit) in terms of size and how they compared to the classic measurements. The only difference between that fit and the new classic fit is the increase in the shoulders by 1/4". However, per my measurements, my shirts are more closely in line with the slim fits in most instances. Truth be told, I like how the Gustin shirts fit. I'm one of those with the right amount of height/muscle mass (5'9 1/2", 170lb) that fits in line with the Gustin "fit". I like what they're doing, especially for the people clamoring for the taller shirts - but I'm slightly hesitant to pull the trigger until I see a few new shirts come through with sizing mirroring the specs. Sarcastic me is thinking "Did anyone at Gustin bother to share the new measurements with the people at the sew shop?"  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 23:01:20 GMT -6
also the label is sewn on upside down. This seems to have been overlooked, a little, probably because of 'Sizegate'... but what could demonstrate a lack of attention to basic detail more than sewing in the company's name badge upside down? (I think you should refer to them as the 'Black Metal' edition) Beer was spat as I laughed at this comment. Awesome. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 23:08:17 GMT -6
I guess the true question will be - how accurate are they? Indeed. I'm wrestling with that already. And just as pressing in my mind is the follow-up question: does the Tall fit feature the less severe scoops as on the prototype blue oxford that some of us backed? I hope so, Matt. The one shirt I backed was so....weird.... in the way it fit. Shoulders and chest were tight and blousy/loose below and the scoops.... Granted, I have a long torso so I'm a bit hard to fit but that shirt was anything but a "Trim tailored fit". It was more like "skinny urban dude with a novice level beer belly" fit. I'm going to check the new fit guides out and back a shirt at some point but not until a fabric really grabs me. Not in a hurry at all here but it would be nice to consider Gustin as an option for shirts. |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 22, 2014 23:42:01 GMT -6
I'm about 95% certain that Combatant Gentleman is all made in China. I think you're thinking of Unbranded. CG's product description says, "After sourcing world-class raw selvedge denim from one of the finest mills in Japan, we cut, sew, and finish our denim in Los Angeles, California." I have no reason to believe otherwise. they also own their own sheep farm in Italy, which is how they're able to keep the cost of their suits down. I'm like 0 for all on these things, I seem to have associated all sorts of brands with different countries than they're made in. Except Thursday boots, those are definitely made in Mexico.  |
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Post by gaseousclay on Oct 23, 2014 5:56:25 GMT -6
I'm like 0 for all on these things, I seem to have associated all sorts of brands with different countries than they're made in. Except Thursday boots, those are definitely made in Mexico. Actually, I believe Unbranded are made in Macau, the same place where A.P.C. gets their denim produced. Uniqlo gets their denim made in China. I'm sure there are others but I honestly can't be bothered to do the research. |
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Post by bugula on Oct 23, 2014 6:06:06 GMT -6
can anyone confirm that their XLs actually run 47.5"? I'm probably not the greatest of measurers but I consistently get 44 on mine.
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 23, 2014 7:38:53 GMT -6
Indeed. I'm wrestling with that already. And just as pressing in my mind is the follow-up question: does the Tall fit feature the less severe scoops as on the prototype blue oxford that some of us backed? I hope so, Matt. The one shirt I backed was so....weird.... in the way it fit. Shoulders and chest were tight and blousy/loose below and the scoops.... Granted, I have a long torso so I'm a bit hard to fit but that shirt was anything but a "Trim tailored fit". It was more like "skinny urban dude with a novice level beer belly" fit. I'm going to check the new fit guides out and back a shirt at some point but not until a fabric really grabs me. Not in a hurry at all here but it would be nice to consider Gustin as an option for shirts. That's about where I'm at, and I'd be seriously hesitant to back anything with a check/plaid pattern until there's evidence that the sew shop can align things better. All over some chambrays if the Tall and/or Slim have the toned-down scoops, though. |
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 23, 2014 7:48:14 GMT -6
can anyone confirm that their XLs actually run 47.5"? I'm probably not the greatest of measurers but I consistently get 44 on mine. My blue oxford in XL Tall sewed up around 46.5-47" in the chest, but I find this particular measurement is a real PITA to do accurately. There's every chance it was bang on 47.5" - it was certainly very close, as were all the other dimensions. Here's hoping it's a sign of things to come. |
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Post by Tobesjones on Oct 23, 2014 7:50:39 GMT -6
I hope so, Matt. The one shirt I backed was so....weird.... in the way it fit. Shoulders and chest were tight and blousy/loose below and the scoops.... Granted, I have a long torso so I'm a bit hard to fit but that shirt was anything but a "Trim tailored fit". It was more like "skinny urban dude with a novice level beer belly" fit. I'm going to check the new fit guides out and back a shirt at some point but not until a fabric really grabs me. Not in a hurry at all here but it would be nice to consider Gustin as an option for shirts. That's about where I'm at, and I'd be seriously hesitant to back anything with a check/plaid pattern until there's evidence that the sew shop can align things better. All over some chambrays if the Tall and/or Slim have the toned-down scoops, though. Without a doubt if they can actually produce a tall chambray that can fit, I am in. I have held off backing any G shirts however this might change my tune. Paying $80 bones for a shirt to have it fit crappy would just be depressing. How was that tall blue Oxford? I haven't heard too much on it. |
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 23, 2014 7:54:13 GMT -6
That's about where I'm at, and I'd be seriously hesitant to back anything with a check/plaid pattern until there's evidence that the sew shop can align things better. All over some chambrays if the Tall and/or Slim have the toned-down scoops, though. Without a doubt if they can actually produce a tall chambray that can fit, I am in. I have held off backing any G shirts however this might change my tune. Paying $80 bones for a shirt to have it fit crappy would just be depressing. How was that tall blue Oxford? I haven't heard too much on it. If you can get on the Gustin forums, my review is at the bottom of Page 2 here. |
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Post by Tobesjones on Oct 23, 2014 8:08:20 GMT -6
Without a doubt if they can actually produce a tall chambray that can fit, I am in. I have held off backing any G shirts however this might change my tune. Paying $80 bones for a shirt to have it fit crappy would just be depressing. How was that tall blue Oxford? I haven't heard too much on it. If you can get on the Gustin forums, my review is at the bottom of Page 2 here. Ha! Amazing write up! I never saw this! Big win for us lanky guys. Being similar build as you I would just want to make sure it wouldn't be too baggy. Though a tall/slim cut would probably be too much. |
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Post by yeckel on Oct 23, 2014 8:14:11 GMT -6
Why shoulder measurements in the shirts and not the jackets.... were the shoulder measurements there before? That is new right?
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 23, 2014 8:37:58 GMT -6
Ha! Amazing write up! I never saw this! Big win for us lanky guys. Being similar build as you I would just want to make sure it wouldn't be too baggy. Though a tall/slim cut would probably be too much. Well, it seems like if you want a Slim fit but with more length just go with the Tall and size down one. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 9:47:41 GMT -6
Why shoulder measurements in the shirts and not the jackets.... were the shoulder measurements there before? That is new right? nope. the lack of shoulder measurements came up the other day in another thread. apparently they don't provide it because most others don't either. which...is obviously a lame answer. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 15:48:39 GMT -6
I just saw the "Ask the Cody" thread being closed but don't see any reply. Where I can see all the replies?
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Post by Winterland on Oct 24, 2014 16:16:10 GMT -6
I just saw the "Ask the Cody" thread being closed but don't see any reply. Where I can see all the replies? There are none so far. Answers will be in the thread. Cody is sick and will answer when better, as noted in the thread. |
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Post by phait on Oct 28, 2014 20:50:25 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Oct 28, 2014 20:53:03 GMT -6
let us know what they do for you |
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Post by wisdom on Oct 28, 2014 21:01:47 GMT -6
You should make that your avatar on Gustin.. maybe that'll be the last straw for them =) Just kidding.. as many have stated, and as you're doing anyway, see how they handle this. Has anyone ever had this happen on any of their other jeans, any brand? |
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Post by Derek G on Oct 28, 2014 21:05:26 GMT -6
Sorry to see that bro  That happened to my 16er's...at the same point yours did,though not that severe, maybe an inch long, and it was my bad. I was working on stretching the pockets some, and jammed my fists in my pockets and squatted and really put a lot of tension on them and pop! I was able to stitch them back up though. I think we'd all like to hear how they handle it. But going on past performance, I think Cody will take care of you. |
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Post by julian on Oct 29, 2014 1:26:47 GMT -6
So my Okayamas ripped on me today, I've had them less than a month. I crouched, something I'd done many a time before in these jeans, and there goes the fly. I emailed Cody to see what he could do, hopefully all goes well. That has to be a manufacturing/construction issue... why? Because I've had to stretch out four pairs of Gustin jeans - quite significantly - and to do so has taken a lot more than crouching. In fairness to Gustin, I've actually been quite impressed that I've not done any structural damage to any of my pairs. Your Okas must have had a defect of some kind. |
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Post by phait on Oct 29, 2014 6:28:14 GMT -6
I'm dealing with someone other than Cody but my options were
1) Get them fixed locally and they'll pay for it
2) They'll pay to have them shipped to SF and fixed
I don't have anyone locally I'd trust so I'm shipping them to SF.
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Post by bugula on Oct 29, 2014 6:31:29 GMT -6
Seems reasonable and incredibly fair. I wonder why they just wouldn't offer up #2 as the only option.
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Post by phait on Oct 29, 2014 6:40:59 GMT -6
The email mentioned that getting it done locally would likely be faster. It probably would be too, but I live in a small city and I can't find a good tailor let alone a good denim shop.
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Post by bugula on Oct 29, 2014 7:53:13 GMT -6
Yeah - just considering the fact you probably don't need to wear them now and they'll make sure that it gets done right, sending them in seems like it'd always be the best option (unless the victim just happens to be down the street from Railcar).
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That happened to my 16er's...at the same point yours did,though not that severe, maybe an inch long, and it was my bad.