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Post by matt on Jan 30, 2015 15:03:02 GMT -6
But what does it mean for something to "sell out" in the G world? It seems like a lot of the campaigns don't walk a straight line. A couple of those heavy flannels made impressive percentage jumps as they neared the end. The fourth campaign for the Deadstock japan Union blue is running right now, so either Gustin is stockpiling fabric for later releases or they have a strange definition of Deadstock. Cone Pima fire is another one. I know Pacific Blue has a lot of deadstock, and most has been what's available on LD and Gustin. I think it just depends on the yardage they acquire with the "deadstock" (assuming that it is in fact deadstock). I would assume G either has a big yardage amount and they're probably releasing limited runs of it? Generally speaking, I guess it's considered deadstock even if they (whichever mill) changes one small element and produces a similar denim/similar ID? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 18:24:34 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, I believe there has only been one campaign that "failed" (and by failed, G pulled it down from the site and those pieces that were backed never made it to production). They have had a lot of items not make it to production. Some jeans, some shirts and everyone's favorite the denim trucker that everyone seemed to want but nobody backed. If it is over a certain percentage, I think they give it a boost, but some don't make it past 50% and they scrap it from what I can tell. They even just remove it from the site as if it never existed. Things might have changed since I quit being an active member in their world, though. |
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Post by Marc on Jan 30, 2015 18:40:04 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, I believe there has only been one campaign that "failed" (and by failed, G pulled it down from the site and those pieces that were backed never made it to production). They have had a lot of items not make it to production. Some jeans, some shirts and everyone's favorite the denim trucker that everyone seemed to want but nobody backed. If it is over a certain percentage, I think they give it a boost, but some don't make it past 50% and they scrap it from what I can tell. They even just remove it from the site as if it never existed. Things might have changed since I quit being an active member in their world, though. Yeah, I miss the very early days when they divulged the actual number as the campaign progressed (usually, it was 100). I always thought G should use two numbers... the first would be a honest-to-goodness, no shit, this ain't gonna happen unless we hit this number. The second would be the upper limit, we're closing it out and going into production when we hit this. |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 30, 2015 20:37:33 GMT -6
A few campaigns haven't funded. Or had other issues.
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Post by marauder on Jan 30, 2015 20:44:22 GMT -6
If I'm not mistaken, I believe there has only been one campaign that "failed" (and by failed, G pulled it down from the site and those pieces that were backed never made it to production). They have had a lot of items not make it to production. Some jeans, some shirts and everyone's favorite the denim trucker that everyone seemed to want but nobody backed. If it is over a certain percentage, I think they give it a boost, but some don't make it past 50% and they scrap it from what I can tell. They even just remove it from the site as if it never existed. Things might have changed since I quit being an active member in their world, though. I believe things are the same. First, their site doesn't support non funded items - it only shows what currently funding and what was successfully funded. Second, I think they still do give fabrics a boost. The ginghams were slowly crawling along and were at 50% and I checked an hour later and suddenly, they were at 85. Unless all of a sudden bunch of people decided to back it within an hour, I'd say it was a push by G. Sadly, I refresh G's site more often than I'm publicly willing to admit. |
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Post by marauder on Jan 30, 2015 20:53:31 GMT -6
They have had a lot of items not make it to production. Some jeans, some shirts and everyone's favorite the denim trucker that everyone seemed to want but nobody backed. If it is over a certain percentage, I think they give it a boost, but some don't make it past 50% and they scrap it from what I can tell. They even just remove it from the site as if it never existed. Things might have changed since I quit being an active member in their world, though. Yeah, I miss the very early days when they divulged the actual number as the campaign progressed (usually, it was 100). I always thought G should use two numbers... the first would be a honest-to-goodness, no shit, this ain't gonna happen unless we hit this number. The second would be the upper limit, we're closing it out and going into production when we hit this. Good point. Perhaps they could follow kickstarter or TS model too, where the time period is fixed even if the campaign is funded and it can go over 100%. A lot of times they do more than one campaign of the same fabric as soon as the first one finishes. But this model brings uncertainty in logistics and fulfilling orders if campaign gets funded way over. We've all seen a lot of KS campaigns get delayed because of sheer volume. Without a cap, the situation could become troublesome. In general, openness is the way to go for online businesses when majority of your goodwill is in form of trust. |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 30, 2015 22:16:09 GMT -6
I believe things are the same. First, their site doesn't support non funded items - it only shows what currently funding and what was successfully funded. Second, I think they still do give fabrics a boost. The ginghams were slowly crawling along and were at 50% and I checked an hour later and suddenly, they were at 85. Unless all of a sudden bunch of people decided to back it within an hour, I'd say it was a push by G. Sadly, I refresh G's site more often than I'm publicly willing to admit. I figure they reduced the size of the run. |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 30, 2015 22:19:16 GMT -6
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Post by marauder on Jan 30, 2015 23:06:55 GMT -6
Very informative. Thanks for ruining everything.  I used to wonder why the button holes on all my jeans (including Gs) would have threads coming out with the only exception of Filson 5 pocket pants. They seem so clean and perfect - it is almost artistic. Now I know. |
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Post by jlx on Jan 31, 2015 5:57:09 GMT -6
wow fancy that, all of my shirts suck  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 23:39:06 GMT -6
I finally broke out my Natural Indigo 2's! I ordered them about a year ago and they were missing tackers. Sent them back and I think I got them in July 2014. By then, I was tired of it and put them in the closet. I forgot how miserable it was to break in new jeans over 13 ounce (ok, these are 14oz...I don't like to suffer for my jeans), but I am reminded of how much I liked Gustin jeans. When those jerks nailed it, they really nailed it. Oh well, there are other companies. www.weargustin.com/campaigns/514The only complaint about this fabric is there is not enough weft. I like that contrast of the show-through. Yes, it is clear in the photos, but I wanted plant indigo and I was in a Gustin Frenzy. The plant dye indigo they offered after these might have been cheaper with a really nice light shade...oh...regrets...I have a few. Now I just need to work them into a rotation and beat the hell out of them till they look like and feel good. Also, call me crazy, but I went to my order page to see when I ordered them as opposed to when I finally started wearing them, and it no longer shows when the funding closed. I think it used to. Right? Am I crazy? |
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Post by marauder on Jan 31, 2015 23:48:31 GMT -6
@rex, yes, they did remove the order date along with the expected completion month.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 5:32:26 GMT -6
Gustin transparency at its best! It's ok, this is business and they aren't my friends. I get that.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 1, 2015 8:56:39 GMT -6
Gustin transparency at its best! It's ok, this is business and they aren't my friends. I get that. That pissed me off to no end. I just check my credit card and the campaign page which still has the shipping month. Kinda BS they don't let you are when you paid for an item considering they do not issues receipts. |
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Post by marauder on Feb 1, 2015 9:51:10 GMT -6
Gustin transparency at its best! It's ok, this is business and they aren't my friends. I get that. That pissed me off to no end. I just check my credit card and the campaign page which still has the shipping month. Kinda BS they don't let you are when you paid for an item considering they do not issues receipts. That irks me as well. All the information is still there, you just need to work harder for it. They do send you an email when you back something and another one when the campaign funds successfully and they charge your cc. |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 1, 2015 11:44:55 GMT -6
Yeah the credit card being charged email is the best one to keep. Shady to me.
Also they remove unsuccessful campaigns for a reason. Wouldn't look good to have things go unfunded!
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Post by felizuno on Feb 2, 2015 18:00:16 GMT -6
Ren got my orange plaid today, gave me a refund without me having to ask, and gave me a credit to cover the return shipping. Super satisfied with the response, as always Gustin CS hooked it up better than expected. Thanks Ren!
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Post by stinky on Feb 4, 2015 14:30:52 GMT -6
Gustin transparency at its best! It's ok, this is business and they aren't my friends. I get that. That pissed me off to no end. I just check my credit card and the campaign page which still has the shipping month. Kinda BS they don't let you are when you paid for an item considering they do not issues receipts. As a veteran of the installment payment/recurring payment world and working closely with large merchant processors on the compliance side, I frankly don't think what G provides as a receipt is compliant with PCI standards. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 15:17:56 GMT -6
That pissed me off to no end. I just check my credit card and the campaign page which still has the shipping month. Kinda BS they don't let you are when you paid for an item considering they do not issues receipts. As a veteran of the installment payment/recurring payment world and working closely with large merchant processors on the compliance side, I frankly don't think what G provides as a receipt is compliant with PCI standards. probably not...pci standards are so strict. i wonder if they've had to endure a pci audit yet. i've heard that some 'new' companies get a bit of grace period to get all of their ducks in a row. |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 4, 2015 17:10:40 GMT -6
As a veteran of the installment payment/recurring payment world and working closely with large merchant processors on the compliance side, I frankly don't think what G provides as a receipt is compliant with PCI standards. probably not...pci standards are so strict. i wonder if they've had to endure a pci audit yet. i've heard that some 'new' companies get a bit of grace period to get all of their ducks in a row. Yeah not even close to PCI standards. Pretty shocking they don't include a packing recipet. Lawless did. Taylor stitch did. Jcrew gap..I think you get the picture. |
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Post by arbybaconator on Feb 6, 2015 16:12:28 GMT -6
I almost choked on my drink when I saw this:  |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 6, 2015 19:16:28 GMT -6
You save 50% I love marketing. I also love Invictus watches being sold as Swiss watches and have an MSRP of $1200 but sell for $100-200
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Post by arbybaconator on Feb 6, 2015 20:07:01 GMT -6
I love the part about "perfectly lining up supply and demand". Still waiting on those chinos that were supposed to ship nov/dec...
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 6, 2015 20:10:10 GMT -6
I love the part about "perfectly lining up supply and demand". Still waiting on those chinos that were supposed to ship nov/dec... Delays really aren't helping the business at all that is apparent. |
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Post by exophobe on Feb 7, 2015 11:32:32 GMT -6
Regarding sizing, for what it's worth:
The waist on my American Sixteeners (33 slim) came in at fit guide, right about 33.5 measured Gustin-way. Now that they are broken in a good bit and feeling comfortable, I laid them flat and they measure at 34. I then did my best to measure the buttoned circumference, and found that it came in at 35.5, which is right about my actual waist size when I measured another time. So... there's that.
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