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Post by Mattbert on Jan 9, 2015 8:53:20 GMT -6
The interesting thing about that shirt, Vincent, is that the placket and pocket are pretty well aligned, even though the shirt is at a slope. Your earlier description that the shirt looked like it'd had a stroke was perfect. Someday we'll have to arrange a meetup and everyone can wear their most screwed up gear that they couldn't be arsed to return. I humbly suggest Italy as a potential destination.  |
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Post by usctroll on Jan 9, 2015 9:10:58 GMT -6
The interesting thing about that shirt, Vincent, is that the placket and pocket are pretty well aligned, even though the shirt is at a slope. Serious? Looks like the edge of the placket loses about 3/8" of an inch on the pattern from top to bottom. Same thing with the alignment of the placket to the pattern where it's sewed onto the shirt. After people started bitching about patterned G shirts (I don't own one, oxfords only) I went and looked in my closet and the worst I could find was a Quicksilver shirt that was about 1/8" off. Most of my shirts are Banana Republic tailored slim and they're literally perfect. I have a half dozen of them, some a couple years old, and no buttons have ever fallen off and no stitching has ever come loose. Gustin shirt construction quality is solidly in the $50 range at best. However, their fabrics keep me interested. The Gustin oxford fabric is better than a $95 Brooks Brothers shirt for $25 less. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 9:18:46 GMT -6
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Post by exophobe on Jan 9, 2015 12:44:45 GMT -6
The interesting thing about that shirt, Vincent, is that the placket and pocket are pretty well aligned, even though the shirt is at a slope. Your earlier description that the shirt looked like it'd had a stroke was perfect. Someday we'll have to arrange a meetup and everyone can wear their most screwed up gear that they couldn't be arsed to return. I humbly suggest Italy as a potential destination. Italy would be the absolute best, plus I need to prove that thing wrong about throwing a coin into the fountain for a return to Rome. |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 9, 2015 13:00:51 GMT -6
Serious? Looks like the edge of the placket loses about 3/8" of an inch on the pattern from top to bottom. Same thing with the alignment of the placket to the pattern where it's sewed onto the shirt. After people started bitching about patterned G shirts (I don't own one, oxfords only) I went and looked in my closet and the worst I could find was a Quicksilver shirt that was about 1/8" off. Appears looking at it on my phone was giving it more credit than it was due. Absolutely see that at computer monitor size. |
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Post by waboo on Jan 9, 2015 14:45:18 GMT -6
I have three shirts from Gustin and all of them measure 2 inches less in the chest than the fit guide says they ought to. I never noticed this or bothered to measure before since they fit me well but now I'm worried that if some shirting fabric down the road strikes my fancy I might finally get a shirt that comes in on spec and I'll be swimming in it. Anyone else had this experience?
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Post by ickes on Jan 9, 2015 15:04:51 GMT -6
I have three shirts from Gustin and all of them measure 2 inches less in the chest than the fit guide says they ought to. I never noticed this or bothered to measure before since they fit me well but now I'm worried that if some shirting fabric down the road strikes my fancy I might finally get a shirt that comes in on spec and I'll be swimming in it. Anyone else had this experience? Yes, I have said this over the past year till I'm blue in the face. The GUSTIN shirts come in about one size smaller than the fit guide says, except for the WS. If you're ordering a G shirt for the first time (non WS) measure a shirt you currently own that fits good, compare those measurements to the G fit guide, and then go up one size. The good news is that G is consistent with their inaccurate shirt measurements. I've ordered a lot of G shirts and they are all consistent with one another even though they are one size off from the fit chart, |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 9, 2015 15:23:04 GMT -6
I have three shirts from Gustin and all of them measure 2 inches less in the chest than the fit guide says they ought to. I never noticed this or bothered to measure before since they fit me well but now I'm worried that if some shirting fabric down the road strikes my fancy I might finally get a shirt that comes in on spec and I'll be swimming in it. Anyone else had this experience? There was a theory for some time that the fit guide size is shifted over one from what the sew-shop is working with (where tagged XL would be L on the fit guide), but this was sort of a conspiracy theory, so I'm not going to say whether or not I believe.  |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 9, 2015 15:36:07 GMT -6
I have three shirts from Gustin and all of them measure 2 inches less in the chest than the fit guide says they ought to. I never noticed this or bothered to measure before since they fit me well but now I'm worried that if some shirting fabric down the road strikes my fancy I might finally get a shirt that comes in on spec and I'll be swimming in it. Anyone else had this experience? Yes, I have said this over the past year till I'm blue in the face. The GUSTIN shirts come in about one size smaller than the fit guide says, except for the WS. If you're ordering a G shirt for the first time (non WS) measure a shirt you currently own that fits good, compare those measurements to the G fit guide, and then go up one size. The good news is that G is consistent with their inaccurate shirt measurements. I've ordered a lot of G shirts and they are all consistent with one another even though they are one size off from the fit chart, When was your most recent G shirt order? I found your description to be true of a shirt* I ordered second-hand to check my size (I'm guessing it was a Spring 2014 campaign), but the two other shirts** I have--which were backed in mid-late July and received early September 2014--were both essentially bang on spec; maybe 1/2-3/4" smaller in the chest but nowhere near a full size. USPS tracking says my Slate Blue Twill is waiting for me at home, so I'll have another data point to add to this puzzle pretty soon. * Royal Seersucker Gingham (XL Classic) ** Orange Fade Plaid (XXL Classic), Japan Blue Oxford (XL Tall) |
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Post by ickes on Jan 9, 2015 15:53:02 GMT -6
Mattbert, Rustic Blue Twill. Received it a month ago, shipped to me on Dec. 4. Not sure exactly when the campaign was though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 18:45:01 GMT -6
Yes, I have said this over the past year till I'm blue in the face. The GUSTIN shirts come in about one size smaller than the fit guide says, except for the WS. If you're ordering a G shirt for the first time (non WS) measure a shirt you currently own that fits good, compare those measurements to the G fit guide, and then go up one size. The good news is that G is consistent with their inaccurate shirt measurements. I've ordered a lot of G shirts and they are all consistent with one another even though they are one size off from the fit chart, USPS tracking says my Slate Blue Twill is waiting for me at home, so I'll have another data point to add to this puzzle pretty soon. Well what are you waiting for? Go home and do some reviews of the Slate Blue Twill. I'm impatiently waiting for the insane amounts of regret. |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 9, 2015 18:45:55 GMT -6
Mattbert, Rustic Blue Twill. Received it a month ago, shipped to me on Dec. 4. Not sure exactly when the campaign was though. Well, more recent than either of mine. And that one had the same issue of being approximately one size smaller than tagged? |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 9, 2015 18:50:50 GMT -6
USPS tracking says my Slate Blue Twill is waiting for me at home, so I'll have another data point to add to this puzzle pretty soon. Well what are you waiting for? Go home and do some reviews of the Slate Blue Twill. I'm impatiently waiting for the insane amounts of regret. Turns out G decided to throw me a bit of a curveball and mixed up the shipping labels between that shirt and the King Zims. I picked up the package and thought, "Jeebus, that's a HEAVY shirt." So you'll have to remain impatient until Monday. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 19:13:58 GMT -6
Well what are you waiting for? Go home and do some reviews of the Slate Blue Twill. I'm impatiently waiting for the insane amounts of regret. Turns out G decided to throw me a bit of a curveball and mixed up the shipping labels between that shirt and the King Zims. I picked up the package and thought, "Jeebus, that's a HEAVY shirt." So you'll have to remain impatient until Monday. D'oh.. Reviews on the Papa Zimbs please. I'm regretting not getting those as well. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 9, 2015 19:30:38 GMT -6
Mattbert, Rustic Blue Twill. Received it a month ago, shipped to me on Dec. 4. Not sure exactly when the campaign was though. Well, more recent than either of mine. And that one had the same issue of being approximately one size smaller than tagged? yes sir. just measured the chest and waist on it again. Tagged size XL classic has a chest of 45 1/2" and a waist of 43 1/2". I just calibrated my tape measurer too. |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 9, 2015 20:19:45 GMT -6
Well, more recent than either of mine. And that one had the same issue of being approximately one size smaller than tagged? yes sir. just measured the chest and waist on it again. Tagged size XL classic has a chest of 45 1/2" and a waist of 43 1/2". I just calibrated my tape measurer too. Heh. That joke will never get old. I had originally backed the Slate Blue Twill in L Tall because my XL Tall blue Oxford is just a leeeeetle bit looser on me than I like. Then I changed it to XL Tall after thinking it over a bit. Just didn't want to sweat having to make sure it got cold washed and hang dried every time forever. Sounds like that may turn out to have been a prescient move. |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 9, 2015 21:59:48 GMT -6
Well what are you waiting for? Go home and do some reviews of the Slate Blue Twill. I'm impatiently waiting for the insane amounts of regret. Begs the question. Is it better to have backed and lost or never to have backed at all? Gettin' pretty bummed after the Indigo Dobby snipping and now the Slate Blue Twill that's not gonna come. Hoping that with the 6 weeks so far delay, at least the Brown x Black work shirt and the Caramel Chinos show up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 22:52:20 GMT -6
Well what are you waiting for? Go home and do some reviews of the Slate Blue Twill. I'm impatiently waiting for the insane amounts of regret. Begs the question. Is it better to have backed and lost or never to have backed at all? Gettin' pretty bummed after the Indigo Dobby snipping and now the Slate Blue Twill that's not gonna come. Hoping that with the 6 weeks so far delay, at least the Brown x Black work shirt and the Caramel Chinos show up. Did those happen back to back? If so that would have been dagger and I'd have asked for credit card refunds for those two and future orders, and stayed away for a bit. At least until the delays and QC issues were dealt with. |
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Post by exophobe on Jan 9, 2015 23:01:24 GMT -6
Begs the question. Is it better to have backed and lost or never to have backed at all? Gettin' pretty bummed after the Indigo Dobby snipping and now the Slate Blue Twill that's not gonna come. Hoping that with the 6 weeks so far delay, at least the Brown x Black work shirt and the Caramel Chinos show up. Did those happen back to back? If so that would have been dagger and I'd have asked for credit card refunds for those two and future orders, and stayed away for a bit. At least until the delays and QC issues were dealt with. recent history: Japan Shine - good Indigo Dobby gets mis-cut - refund American Sixteener - perfect, no sign of the contest they were supposedly part of (not too concerned, wearing and loving them anyway) Brown x Black workshirt - supposed to ship next week, about 5 weeks late so far. Japan Caramel Chino - supposed to ship next week, about 5 weeks late so far. Heavy Black x Coal - from stock store, perfect though still smell strongly of sulphur Japan Slate Blue Twill - price credited back, nothing I like in the stock store is in my size (cry me a river). *** EDIT: I noticed that the email did give option of refund just now, didn't notice earlier *** Have two more items pending, 4 total pending shipment. 22 items from Gustin in 2014, 2015 is off to a bad start. |
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Post by stinky on Jan 10, 2015 16:12:54 GMT -6
The interesting thing about that shirt, Vincent, is that the placket and pocket are pretty well aligned, even though the shirt is at a slope. Serious? Looks like the edge of the placket loses about 3/8" of an inch on the pattern from top to bottom. Same thing with the alignment of the placket to the pattern where it's sewed onto the shirt. After people started bitching about patterned G shirts (I don't own one, oxfords only) I went and looked in my closet and the worst I could find was a Quicksilver shirt that was about 1/8" off. Most of my shirts are Banana Republic tailored slim and they're literally perfect. I have a half dozen of them, some a couple years old, and no buttons have ever fallen off and no stitching has ever come loose. Gustin shirt construction quality is solidly in the $50 range at best. However, their fabrics keep me interested. The Gustin oxford fabric is better than a $95 Brooks Brothers shirt for $25 less. Aligned plackets/yoke/collars should be expected on any patterned shirt, regardless of cost. Pattern alignment isn't exclusive to high-end makers, it's something that a company that makes shirts simply does, because that's the way they are supposed to be. I am tolerant of the under arm side seam matching, but the rest of the stuff at least needs to be square. Anything that isn't square/aligned should be marked "irregular" and sold from a bin at one of those factory outlet farms in the exoburbs. |
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Post by stinky on Jan 10, 2015 16:17:48 GMT -6
I think you guys need to meet for a drink or something and hug this shit out. Your ongoing feud is getting kind of silly. No one has the perfect formula for proper way to be critical or complimentary . . . please recognize this and learn how to play in the same sandbox together. FTR, I have taken a dose of my own advice lately as well. Cheers. There is no ongoing feud at least on my side. The founders (you and myself included) created this forum to express our opinions "freely" about Gustin, Lawless and others. I just want to make sure people can continue express their opinions here on their purchases if/when they like. If we cross the line, there are mods here to tell us to stop. I have been on the road and haven't had a chance to respond, but I just wanted to say that I was in no way trying to pass judgement on what either one of you were trying to say--you're right, this is why we all came over here and started this thing. However, the back and forth (something I've occasionally been guilty of as well) ran the risk of credibility loss for both of you guys. Glad to see you reached out and (i assume) buried the hatchet. |
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 10, 2015 17:30:58 GMT -6
I received the eucalyptus plaid last week and it is perfectly cut/aligned, so I thought they had it sorted out. Then today received the light blue "heavy" flannel and it is ridiculously badly aligned/sewn up. Also, it's not "heavy" either in case anyone was wondering, lol. I'm keeping the eucalyptus obviously but the light blue flannel is going back for a refund.
I've purchased 5 patterned Gustin shirts total, and 4 of the 5 have been bad and needed to be returned :-(
I like the style and fit of their shirts, and thought I had found a good source for my shirt needs, but I guess not. I think I'll be returning to buying my shirts at department stores at the mall. USA Made was a nice pipe dream
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 10, 2015 21:23:24 GMT -6
I received the eucalyptus plaid last week and it is perfectly cut/aligned, so I thought they had it sorted out. Then today received the light blue "heavy" flannel and it is ridiculously badly aligned/sewn up. Also, it's not "heavy" either in case anyone was wondering, lol. I'm keeping the eucalyptus obviously but the light blue flannel is going back for a refund. I've purchased 5 patterned Gustin shirts total, and 4 of the 5 have been bad and needed to be returned :-( I like the style and fit of their shirts, and thought I had found a good source for my shirt needs, but I guess not. I think I'll be returning to buying my shirts at department stores at the mall. USA Made was a nice pipe dream Just stick to solids! That's only half-joking. Oh, and if you are keen on the Made in the USA thing, some of us have had pretty good luck with Taylor Stitch shirts. Their "dress" shirting is made in Portugal, but the casual stuff is almost all domestically produced as far as I know. Just beware that their sizing varies a bit from shirt to shirt (always always always check the fit guide), and you shouldn't necessarily believe them when they say a shirt is pre-shrunk. |
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Post by asianpang on Jan 14, 2015 12:39:50 GMT -6
Hello i am looking to purchase the sea blue denim and was wondering if the 29 skinny would fit me, usually wear a 28, and since G doesn't have it in that size. I am a little bit worried about the 29.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 12:50:56 GMT -6
Hello i am looking to purchase the sea blue denim and was wondering if the 29 skinny would fit me, usually wear a 28, and since G doesn't have it in that size. I am a little bit worried about the 29. You're usually a 28 in what? Have you done full measurements of your best fitting jeans? |
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