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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 5, 2015 7:55:47 GMT -6
And all of this reminds me, that second order turned exactly 8 months old as of today. I'm currently at 6 months as of a few days ago. I'd ask for a refund but since LD&Co can't seem to get their act together and do that I might as well stick it out. |
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Post by doctorcowboy on Jun 5, 2015 9:38:15 GMT -6
I'm at 8 months today for my first order (18.5oz jeans + 2x1 Twill shirt) and 7+ months for my second order (2 pairs of jeans and a shirt). At this point, I'm really just waiting for the shirts. But, with their craziness, God only knows what I'll get and when I'll get it. I'm not going to harass them because I don't want my order to jump in front of anyone else who has been (im)patiently waiting.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 9:38:49 GMT -6
your orders are long gone because they never existed. "Face, meet Palm"
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Post by davelewis on Jun 5, 2015 9:45:20 GMT -6
And all of this reminds me, that second order turned exactly 8 months old as of today. I'm currently at 6 months as of a few days ago. I'd ask for a refund but since LD&Co can't seem to get their act together and do that I might as well stick it out. At this point, probably the best thing to do. My last order received was a few days after 6 months. Overall, I'm glad I waited it out, as I am happy with all my items, but the whole process has tainted this company for me, and have moved on for now. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 5, 2015 10:17:37 GMT -6
And all of this reminds me, that second order turned exactly 8 months old as of today. I'm currently at 6 months as of a few days ago. I'd ask for a refund but since LD&Co can't seem to get their act together and do that I might as well stick it out. Though, I do fully understand the thought process behind statements like this, it just seems illogical to me. The fact that lead times have been grossly exaggerated, CS has been poor, and there is no guarantee anyone will receive what they ordered ( granted, products are still being shipped ), would necessitate a refund. Yet, many still wait. There has got to be a basis for a research study here.  |
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Post by davelewis on Jun 5, 2015 10:28:42 GMT -6
I'm currently at 6 months as of a few days ago. I'd ask for a refund but since LD&Co can't seem to get their act together and do that I might as well stick it out. Though, I do fully understand the thought process behind statements like this, it just seems illogical to me. The fact that lead times have been grossly exaggerated, CS has been poor, and there is no guarantee anyone will receive what they ordered ( granted, products are still being shipped ), would necessitate a refund. Yet, many still wait. There has got to be a basis for a research study here. I agree that lead times were grossly exaggerated to say the least, and CS is a joke, etc, but I thought at the point in time when they were really dragging their feet with peoples refunds, the odds were better I'd get my order, before seeing a refund. It does appear that they are now more receptive, with giving people their money back |
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Post by drstrange on Jun 5, 2015 13:03:29 GMT -6
I'm currently at 6 months as of a few days ago. I'd ask for a refund but since LD&Co can't seem to get their act together and do that I might as well stick it out. Though, I do fully understand the thought process behind statements like this, it just seems illogical to me. The fact that lead times have been grossly exaggerated, CS has been poor, and there is no guarantee anyone will receive what they ordered ( granted, products are still being shipped ), would necessitate a refund. Yet, many still wait. There has got to be a basis for a research study here. I'm at 7 months (as of tomorrow) and so far just the "cutting table"-mail (month and a half ago, probably even if they had ants cutting the stuff it couldn't be slower ...) .... my trouble with refunds is that I would loose quite some money (as the exchange rate USD - CHF went the "wrong way" since November ...) ... obviously there are shippments here and there in a very erratic way concerning order numbers and the majority here (which I would consider to be experienced and therefore picky buyers of denim) seems to be pleased about the quality of the goods ... for sure I'm not ordering anything from LD prior to receiving the the November 5 parcel in full ... |
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Post by Old26 on Jun 5, 2015 13:19:26 GMT -6
Though, I do fully understand the thought process behind statements like this, it just seems illogical to me. The fact that lead times have been grossly exaggerated, CS has been poor, and there is no guarantee anyone will receive what they ordered ( granted, products are still being shipped ), would necessitate a refund. Yet, many still wait. There has got to be a basis for a research study here. I'm at 7 months (as of tomorrow) and so far just the "cutting table"-mail (month and a half ago, probably even if they had ants cutting the stuff it couldn't be slower ...) .... my trouble with refunds is that I would loose quite some money (as the exchange rate USD - CHF went the "wrong way" since November ...) ... obviously there are shippments here and there in a very erratic way concerning order numbers and the majority here (which I would consider to be experienced and therefore picky buyers of denim) seems to be pleased about the quality of the goods ... for sure I'm not ordering anything from LD prior to receiving the the November 5 parcel in full ... I now believe that "cutting table" means just that - they are now in possession of the wood needed to make the cutting tables and are in fact, cutting that wood to make the tables. We didn't take them literally enough... This is how a good, online lawyer gets you to post lawsuit-ready replies to avoid trouble! |
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Post by matt on Jun 5, 2015 13:28:01 GMT -6
I'm at 7 months (as of tomorrow) and so far just the "cutting table"-mail (month and a half ago, probably even if they had ants cutting the stuff it couldn't be slower ...) .... my trouble with refunds is that I would loose quite some money (as the exchange rate USD - CHF went the "wrong way" since November ...) ... obviously there are shippments here and there in a very erratic way concerning order numbers and the majority here (which I would consider to be experienced and therefore picky buyers of denim) seems to be pleased about the quality of the goods ... for sure I'm not ordering anything from LD prior to receiving the the November 5 parcel in full ... I now believe that "cutting table" means just that - they are now in possession of the wood needed to make the cutting tables and are in fact, cutting that wood to make the tables. We didn't take them literally enough... This is how a good, online lawyer gets you to post lawsuit-ready replies to avoid trouble! You are on to something here. Considering LA isn't ready yet. Our funding of the KS wasn't to get new jeans - it was to sponsor cutting tables in the new LA shop! Maybe it's like sponsoring an Ethiopian kid or something (just for the cup of coffee a day) - I can't wait to get a picture of my cutting table, and see how it matures and gets unique denim stains. I hope they use durable wood. |
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Post by jray on Jun 5, 2015 13:42:43 GMT -6
matt and Old26 - thank you both for the laugh out loud on a Friday afternoon. Let's just hope they don't make the jeans out of wood
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Post by DigDug on Jun 5, 2015 15:16:15 GMT -6
Roman had said that the KS money was for sewing machines. He must have forgot about the tables and the denim, labor, factory cost......
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Post by davelewis on Jun 5, 2015 15:22:45 GMT -6
Help, I've fallen off my sewing maching stool, and can't get up. Nobody else knows how to use it.
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 5, 2015 18:54:32 GMT -6
I'm currently at 6 months as of a few days ago. I'd ask for a refund but since LD&Co can't seem to get their act together and do that I might as well stick it out. Though, I do fully understand the thought process behind statements like this, it just seems illogical to me. The fact that lead times have been grossly exaggerated, CS has been poor, and there is no guarantee anyone will receive what they ordered ( granted, products are still being shipped ), would necessitate a refund. Yet, many still wait. There has got to be a basis for a research study here. To be fair, I called my bank about doing a chargeback but they said that can't do it if the transaction is older than 90 days. So basically I'm stuck waiting it out, unless I tell them I no longer want the jacket and opt for their RTW stuff. But even doing that seems like a f*ckup waiting to happen |
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Post by scooter on Jun 5, 2015 19:42:20 GMT -6
Though, I do fully understand the thought process behind statements like this, it just seems illogical to me. The fact that lead times have been grossly exaggerated, CS has been poor, and there is no guarantee anyone will receive what they ordered ( granted, products are still being shipped ), would necessitate a refund. Yet, many still wait. There has got to be a basis for a research study here. To be fair, I called my bank about doing a chargeback but they said that can't do it if the transaction is older than 90 days. So basically I'm stuck waiting it out, unless I tell them I no longer want the jacket and opt for their RTW stuff. But even doing that seems like a f*ckup waiting to happen I hope it is understood, I'm not being critical of anyone's decision to wait it out. Everyone's got their reasons. I was just making the observation, while giving all the reason in the world to request a refund, many do otherwise. I guess, I'm just wondering what can make us all such gluttons for punishment ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2015 21:54:32 GMT -6
To be fair, I called my bank about doing a chargeback but they said that can't do it if the transaction is older than 90 days. So basically I'm stuck waiting it out, unless I tell them I no longer want the jacket and opt for their RTW stuff. But even doing that seems like a f*ckup waiting to happen I hope it is understood, I'm not being critical of anyone's decision to wait it out. Everyone's got their reasons. I was just making the observation, while giving all the reason in the world to request a refund, many do otherwise. I guess, I'm just wondering what can make us all such gluttons for punishment ? Yeah, I agree. But it seems to be paying off for the most part for the super patient. They were also given all the reason in the world to not back the RTW, but many did otherwise, and it has worked out for them. More power to those breathing a fresh set of lungs back into LD. |
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Post by matt on Jun 6, 2015 11:47:55 GMT -6
I'm currently invested a whole $32 into the company. For the minimal amount and the summer in Arizona, I have every reason to be patient - a 12.5 oz shirt is useless to me for the next 4 months. I don't mind being patient in that regard. As for those who are more steeply invested, I would agree that it is buyer beware and hopefully this new turn of order fulfillment is LD getting what's left of the train back on the tracks.
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Post by wisdom on Jun 6, 2015 18:19:34 GMT -6
If LD had started with this model, even with these delays in RTW, they would probably be one of the most praised brands on this forum.
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Post by DigDug on Jun 6, 2015 19:42:57 GMT -6
So it's looking like LD is gearing up for a Fall line up. It seems to me that Roman is only rolling out Jeans for now. Then come Fall the offerings will expand to at least shirts. If this is the direction that LD is going, I'm thinking our/my custom shirt (not that custom, just a XL wool shirt with black buttons and stitching) Won't be made untill the RTW shirts are made. http://instagram.com/p/3mw1kKjA5s |
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Post by exophobe on Jun 6, 2015 21:19:47 GMT -6
So it's looking like LD is gearing up for a Fall line up. It seems to me that Roman is only rolling out Jeans for now. Then come Fall the offerings will expand to at least shirts. If this is the direction that LD is going, I'm thinking our/my custom shirt (not that custom, just a XL wool shirt with black buttons and stitching) Won't be made untill the RTW shirts are made. http://instagr.am/p/3mw1kKjA5s I wish they'd make and ship my shirt in that fabric. |
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Post by DigDug on Jun 6, 2015 22:40:48 GMT -6
exophobe I've got that in a Red/Gray version on order (got a refund on 4 other shirts and kept only this one) Should be a nice shirt. Wish it had the side gussets. Not sure if I'll be buying anything from LD.
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Post by oatwilly on Jun 7, 2015 11:35:56 GMT -6
Geez, cuffing really is a lame and corny look for a man isn't it |
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Post by scooter on Jun 7, 2015 11:57:03 GMT -6
 "Say that again. I dare you." |
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Post by DigDug on Jun 7, 2015 12:05:20 GMT -6
Geez, cuffing really is a lame and corny look for a man isn't it Maybe on Boys and lesser Men. But I look fine. |
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Post by seth on Jun 7, 2015 13:24:19 GMT -6
Geez, cuffing really is a lame and corny look for a man isn't it It's corny for him because he's cuffing over ankle boots and not wearing socks. The cuffs are too high. It's not why you cuff. So, it's that fashion aspect of the cuff that's not working. Plus he has his knees locked back and just a little too close, so he's standing somewhat awkwardly. The photographer should have caught that. There are a number of lower cuffed looks that can work for a man. Edit: for example, this look might have worked better if the jeans were 3 inches longer, the cuff slightly narrower, and over the ankle boot. But as-is, I agree it's corny. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 7, 2015 22:48:31 GMT -6
Geez, cuffing really is a lame and corny look for a man isn't it cuffing like that is corny, cuffing in general is not |
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