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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 23:36:09 GMT -6
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Post by exophobe on Jan 27, 2015 23:56:20 GMT -6
So weird reading through that styleforum thread, it's like an exact mirror of what the Gustin Community page was like 9 months ago. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 0:04:13 GMT -6
wow. I have to say that those CPOs do not look good
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Post by efrenlopez on Jan 28, 2015 2:22:21 GMT -6
The CPOs seem to look decent unbuttoned, but fully buttoned, it appears the light weight of the wool and lack of lining deprive it of some much needed structure.
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Post by bjorn on Jan 28, 2015 4:25:30 GMT -6
Too shirtlike?
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 28, 2015 7:56:09 GMT -6
The CPOs seem to look decent unbuttoned, but fully buttoned, it appears the light weight of the wool and lack of lining deprive it of some much needed structure. It's not helped by the fact that the first one @wils linked to is at least a half-size and maybe a full size too big for the guy who's wearing it. Notice how the fit looks substantially improved in the last pic where he's got a nice bulky cardigan on underneath the CPO. The guy in the second set of pics got a better fit and/or is benefiting from wearing what looks like a pretty heavy shirt under his CPO. It looks pretty darn good except for the flying nun collar. Overall, I think these actually look better than I expected. I still wouldn't buy one because the pocket layout and lack of lining in the sleeves are just too much to overcome for me, but there's plenty to like about them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 8:20:02 GMT -6
The CPOs seem to look decent unbuttoned, but fully buttoned, it appears the light weight of the wool and lack of lining deprive it of some much needed structure. It's not helped by the fact that the first one @wils linked to is at least a half-size and maybe a full size too big for the guy who's wearing it. Notice how the fit looks substantially improved in the last pic where he's got a nice bulky cardigan on underneath the CPO. The guy in the second set of pics got a better fit and/or is benefiting from wearing what looks like a pretty heavy shirt under his CPO. It looks pretty darn good except for the flying nun collar. Overall, I think these actually look better than I expected. I still wouldn't buy one because the pocket layout and lack of lining in the sleeves are just too much to overcome for me, but there's plenty to like about them. The person is 6'1 and wearing size M. You can tell his chest is good but sleeves are a bit short but length and width are both long and wide. If he goes down to size S, I don't think the sleeves will work for him. Compared to the TS marine time shirt that I like the fit very much, the G CPO proportion looks off to me.  Fidelity CPO shirt  |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 28, 2015 9:49:12 GMT -6
It's not helped by the fact that the first one @wils linked to is at least a half-size and maybe a full size too big for the guy who's wearing it. Notice how the fit looks substantially improved in the last pic where he's got a nice bulky cardigan on underneath the CPO. The guy in the second set of pics got a better fit and/or is benefiting from wearing what looks like a pretty heavy shirt under his CPO. It looks pretty darn good except for the flying nun collar. Overall, I think these actually look better than I expected. I still wouldn't buy one because the pocket layout and lack of lining in the sleeves are just too much to overcome for me, but there's plenty to like about them. The person is 6'1 and wearing size M. You can tell his chest is good but sleeves are a bit short but length and width are both long and wide. If he goes down to size S, I don't think the sleeves will work for him. Compared to the TS marine time shirt that I like the fit very much, the G CPO proportion looks off to me. Gustin's CPO suffers from the same problem as their work shirts; it's about 1-2" too long for a lot of guys, give or take an inch depending on your build and personal preference for shirt length (I'm including the CPO in the term 'shirt' here, rather than calling it a jacket). That length issue is compounded by the placement of the bottom button, which is at least 2-3" too high above the hemline. This makes the shirt look even longer than it is. Even if the shirt length is actually appropriate for you, it can still look too long because of the visual effect of that stupidly high bottom button. I don't know why Gustin thinks the bottom button of a shirt or CPO should fall above the belt buckle, but they do. And it's terrible. That said, I think the awkward fit of the medium CPO for the 6'1" guy is pretty much entirely because he appears to have rather narrow shoulders. That's killing the drape of the thing, and it's why it looks a thousand times better when he adds the cardigan to fill it out properly. If he's going to wear it as a jacket over heavy layers, then the M is good. If he's going to wear it as a heavy shirt-jac over light layers, then a S would probably be better. I think the sleeves would be fine, since he'd only be giving back 3/4" and most of that would probably be in the shoulder rather than the arm, if G's fit guide is any indication. I like the cut of TS stuff a lot, including their CPO. I'd like another inch plus for length, but that's just me. I'm tall. The pic of the Fidelity one...that dude must have a few clothespins scrunching up the back to make it look like that shirt actually fits him. And it's too short. It'd be perfect if they took about half the material in those Boeing 737 wings masquerading as a collar and stuck it on the bottom of the shirt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 10:14:36 GMT -6
The person is 6'1 and wearing size M. You can tell his chest is good but sleeves are a bit short but length and width are both long and wide. If he goes down to size S, I don't think the sleeves will work for him. Compared to the TS marine time shirt that I like the fit very much, the G CPO proportion looks off to me. Gustin's CPO suffers from the same problem as their work shirts; it's about 1-2" too long for a lot of guys, give or take an inch depending on your build and personal preference for shirt length (I'm including the CPO in the term 'shirt' here, rather than calling it a jacket). That length issue is compounded by the placement of the bottom button, which is at least 2-3" too high above the hemline. This makes the shirt look even longer than it is. Even if the shirt length is actually appropriate for you, it can still look too long because of the visual effect of that stupidly high bottom button. I don't know why Gustin thinks the bottom button of a shirt or CPO should fall above the belt buckle, but they do. And it's terrible. That said, I think the awkward fit of the medium CPO for the 6'1" guy is pretty much entirely because he appears to have rather narrow shoulders. That's killing the drape of the thing, and it's why it looks a thousand times better when he adds the cardigan to fill it out properly. If he's going to wear it as a jacket over heavy layers, then the M is good. If he's going to wear it as a heavy shirt-jac over light layers, then a S would probably be better. I think the sleeves would be fine, since he'd only be giving back 3/4" and most of that would probably be in the shoulder rather than the arm, if G's fit guide is any indication. I like the cut of TS stuff a lot, including their CPO. I'd like another inch plus for length, but that's just me. I'm tall. The pic of the Fidelity one...that dude must have a few clothespins scrunching up the back to make it look like that shirt actually fits him. And it's too short. It'd be perfect if they took about half the material in those Boeing 737 wings masquerading as a collar and stuck it on the bottom of the shirt. I agree with you about the G's CPO shirt. I am actually wearing that exact same Fidelity CPO shirt today and it fits very similar to the photo. yeah, I agree with you about the collars and they can be smaller. I am 5'10" and the length works well for me. Let me try to take a fit picture of that. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 10:32:03 GMT -6
I honestly wasn't real impressed with my TS CPO and I wasn't terribly heartbroken that I returned it. It's hard to tell in the pics of the TS CPO but the pocket placement is strange. The front pockets feel as if they are located dead center (from top to bottom) on the front of the shirt which gives this weird feeling that the chest pockets are covering more of your stomach than your chest. As a matter of fact it doesn't just feel that way, it is that way....at least for me on my body type. I have never seen front pockets placed so low on a shirt. Maybe it's the fact that the front pockets are large also...or long...which gives it that feeling that I have pockets on my stomach. It was the first TS shirt that I really wasn't happy with and that I felt was not worth the money at all. But I digress...the is the Gustin CPO thread after all.
So yeah, to get back on topic, I wasn't impressed with the campaign pics of the Gustin CPO and now after seeing them in the wild I feel the same.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 10:37:56 GMT -6
I honestly wasn't real impressed with my TS CPO and I wasn't terribly heartbroken that I returned it. It's hard to tell in the pics of the TS CPO but the pocket placement is strange. The front pockets feel as if they are located dead center (from top to bottom) on the front of the shirt which gives this weird feeling that the chest pockets are covering more of your stomach than your chest. As a matter of fact it doesn't just feel that way, it is that way....at least for me on my body type. I have never seen front pockets placed so low on a shirt. Maybe it's the fact that the front pockets are large also...or long...which gives it that feeling that I have pockets on my stomach. It was the first TS shirt that I really wasn't happy with and that I felt was not worth the money at all. But I digress...the is the Gustin CPO thread after all. So yeah, to get back on topic, I wasn't impressed with the campaign pics of the Gustin CPO and now after seeing them in the wild I feel the same. Good to know about the TS. I already have two CPO shirts and luckily, I did not go for the TS one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 11:16:03 GMT -6
I honestly wasn't real impressed with my TS CPO and I wasn't terribly heartbroken that I returned it. It's hard to tell in the pics of the TS CPO but the pocket placement is strange. The front pockets feel as if they are located dead center (from top to bottom) on the front of the shirt which gives this weird feeling that the chest pockets are covering more of your stomach than your chest. As a matter of fact it doesn't just feel that way, it is that way....at least for me on my body type. I have never seen front pockets placed so low on a shirt. Maybe it's the fact that the front pockets are large also...or long...which gives it that feeling that I have pockets on my stomach. It was the first TS shirt that I really wasn't happy with and that I felt was not worth the money at all. But I digress...the is the Gustin CPO thread after all. So yeah, to get back on topic, I wasn't impressed with the campaign pics of the Gustin CPO and now after seeing them in the wild I feel the same. maybe you just have really high nipples. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 11:18:42 GMT -6
lol...actually I have very low nipples but that's totes TMI.
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 11:26:46 GMT -6
"I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?"
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Post by jamesr on Jan 28, 2015 11:33:59 GMT -6
I'm not sure if my preferences are changing as I get older, but the Fidelity CPO in the image above looks too short. Actually, looking again it seems a bit too slim for comfort from the chest down.
I don't really get this desire for shirts to end at the bottom of belt buckles. I seem to see it a lot lately. Look at a lot of the Iron Heart pics on the Self Edge site. He always looks like he's wearing his little brother's shirts.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 28, 2015 11:48:17 GMT -6
You have been banned. Simply because now I have that image in my head!  |
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 28, 2015 11:51:29 GMT -6
I'm not sure if my preferences are changing as I get older, but the Fidelity CPO in the image above looks too short. Actually, looking again it seems a bit too slim for comfort from the chest down. I don't really get this desire for shirts to end at the bottom of belt buckles. I seem to see it a lot lately. Look at a lot of the Iron Heart pics on the Self Edge site. He always looks like he's wearing his little brother's shirts. I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 28, 2015 11:54:45 GMT -6
"I have nipples, Greg, could you milk me?" You can milk anything with nipples. |
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Post by davelewis on Jan 28, 2015 11:56:37 GMT -6
I'm not sure if my preferences are changing as I get older, but the Fidelity CPO in the image above looks too short. Actually, looking again it seems a bit too slim for comfort from the chest down. I don't really get this desire for shirts to end at the bottom of belt buckles. I seem to see it a lot lately. Look at a lot of the Iron Heart pics on the Self Edge site. He always looks like he's wearing his little brother's shirts. Funny you posted this, because just yesterday I was looking on the IH website, and thought that the pictures of Giles, looked like he was wearing shirts that were just to damn small for him. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 12:35:02 GMT -6
I'm not sure if my preferences are changing as I get older, but the Fidelity CPO in the image above looks too short. Actually, looking again it seems a bit too slim for comfort from the chest down. I don't really get this desire for shirts to end at the bottom of belt buckles. I seem to see it a lot lately. Look at a lot of the Iron Heart pics on the Self Edge site. He always looks like he's wearing his little brother's shirts. Funny you posted this, because just yesterday I was looking on the IH website, and thought that the pictures of Giles, looked like he was wearing shirts that were just to damn small for him. I have thought this from day one, I see I'm not theonly one |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 28, 2015 12:37:33 GMT -6
I am close to Giles' chest and shoulder measurements and I noticed I size up one from what he wears. He might have a long torso who knows.
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 12:52:51 GMT -6
i believe Giles is over six feet as well
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 12:57:38 GMT -6
i believe Giles is over six feet as well I like his whole look...... but not sure can he move with those clothes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 12:59:31 GMT -6
I honestly wasn't real impressed with my TS CPO and I wasn't terribly heartbroken that I returned it. It's hard to tell in the pics of the TS CPO but the pocket placement is strange. The front pockets feel as if they are located dead center (from top to bottom) on the front of the shirt which gives this weird feeling that the chest pockets are covering more of your stomach than your chest. As a matter of fact it doesn't just feel that way, it is that way....at least for me on my body type. I have never seen front pockets placed so low on a shirt. Maybe it's the fact that the front pockets are large also...or long...which gives it that feeling that I have pockets on my stomach. It was the first TS shirt that I really wasn't happy with and that I felt was not worth the money at all. But I digress...the is the Gustin CPO thread after all. So yeah, to get back on topic, I wasn't impressed with the campaign pics of the Gustin CPO and now after seeing them in the wild I feel the same. maybe you just have really high nipples. Thanks, @david. you had officially ruined the thread.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 14:14:28 GMT -6
Thanks, @david. you had officially ruined the thread.... my job here is done. |
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