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Post by exophobe on Feb 22, 2015 9:09:15 GMT -6
Does the pattern go the same direction on both of the sleeves? It almost looks like it's rotated on the right sleeve in the picture.
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Post by bentin on Feb 22, 2015 10:11:29 GMT -6
Haha, I thought we had a winner, but I think you're right about the sleeves.
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Post by scooter on Feb 22, 2015 11:02:35 GMT -6
Haha, I thought we had a winner, but I think you're right about the sleeves. Definitely right! If you look at the direction of the red and orange stripes, the left sleeve has them horizontal, like the rest of the shirt. The right is vertical.
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Post by bentin on Feb 22, 2015 11:23:43 GMT -6
Too funny, the unicorn remains elusive.
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Post by felizuno on Feb 22, 2015 12:22:41 GMT -6
I think it's an optical illusion caused by the folding of the sleeve at a particularly misleading point in the pattern. if you look again:
Viewer's right: The vertical white/blue/white 1" stripe is clearly visible,bisected by the orange right under his hand at the seam.
Viewer's left: It might look like under the armpit you see the orange stripe run vertical on the sleeve, but if you look at the bicep you can clearly see the horizontal white/blue/white 1" stripe and the wider blue stripe above, which is oriented correctly if his hands were at his sides.
Edit: just to further the folding/optical illusion issue - how else could the sleeve on the viewers right go that far without a thicker blue stripe w/o folding?
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Post by scooter on Feb 22, 2015 12:54:27 GMT -6
I think it's an optical illusion caused by the folding of the sleeve at a particularly misleading point in the pattern. if you look again: Viewer's right: The vertical white/blue/white 1" stripe is clearly visible,bisected by the orange right under his hand at the seam. Viewer's left: It might look like under the armpit you see the orange stripe run vertical on the sleeve, but if you look at the bicep you can clearly see the horizontal white/blue/white 1" stripe and the wider blue stripe above, which is oriented correctly if his hands were at his sides. Edit: just to further the folding/optical illusion issue - how else could the sleeve on the viewers right go that far without a thicker blue stripe w/o folding? With so little to go on, I can't say your argument has no merit. The only way to know for certain is to get confirmation from derek.
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Post by derek on Feb 22, 2015 13:11:11 GMT -6
Wow, this is why I post to this board! Here's the deal: the stripes run the same direction on both sleeves. The problem is this: the fabric looks totally different from one sleeve to the other. I THINK it's the same fabric, but it's like some of it has been left out in the sun for a week. The orange and black are much more prominent on my right sleeve compared to the rest of the shirt. (Actually, I wish the whole shirt was like the right sleeve.) It's the fact that the black is more prominent on my right sleeve that makes the pattern look like it's running perpendicularly. Actually it's crazy-obviously messed up now. It's like a shirt from two different fabrics! It's way more obvious in real life than in the picture below.
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Post by felizuno on Feb 22, 2015 13:19:01 GMT -6
#crimefighting
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Post by bentin on Feb 22, 2015 13:31:02 GMT -6
Is it possible that the right sleeve is the opposite side of the fabric?
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Post by scooter on Feb 22, 2015 13:33:07 GMT -6
Wow, this is why I post to this board! Here's the deal: the stripes run the same direction on both sleeves. The problem is this: the fabric looks totally different from one sleeve to the other. I THINK it's the same fabric, but it's like some of it has been left out in the sun for a week. The orange and black are much more prominent on my right sleeve compared to the rest of the shirt. (Actually, I wish the whole shirt was like the right sleeve.) It's the fact that the black is more prominent on my right sleeve that makes the pattern look like it's running perpendicularly. Actually it's crazy-obviously messed up now. It's like a shirt from two different fabrics! It's way more obvious in real life than in the picture below. Man, that's crazy. I wonder, could it be the fabric on the sleeve is turned inside out, from the rest ?
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Post by derek on Feb 22, 2015 13:39:23 GMT -6
Mystery solved!
The fabric of the right sleeve has the right side facing out, and the rest of the shirt has the wrong side facing out.
That is an interesting way to mess up a shirt!
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Post by bentin on Feb 22, 2015 13:43:29 GMT -6
Awesome. My odds of buying another G patterned shirt have gone from 5% to 0%.
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Post by jamesr on Feb 22, 2015 13:46:05 GMT -6
It's kind of amazing that Gustin manages to keep selling their shirts.
The comments posted on a recent Instagram post (Thomas Mason Oxfords) are pretty rough. I hope Gustin can work these things out as I get a bad feeling that the tide is turning on them.
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Post by usctroll on Feb 22, 2015 14:14:28 GMT -6
Haha, wow. I think this might even be worse than the seizure shirt.
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Post by exophobe on Feb 22, 2015 14:24:56 GMT -6
Rip the arms off and make a fancy vest.
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Post by bentin on Feb 22, 2015 14:55:39 GMT -6
Rip the arms off and make a fancy vest. Maybe wax it too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 17:00:31 GMT -6
Awesome. My odds of buying another G patterned shirt have gone from 5% to 0%. +42
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Post by wisdom on Feb 22, 2015 19:49:13 GMT -6
Wow, this is why I post to this board! Here's the deal: the stripes run the same direction on both sleeves. The problem is this: the fabric looks totally different from one sleeve to the other. I THINK it's the same fabric, but it's like some of it has been left out in the sun for a week. The orange and black are much more prominent on my right sleeve compared to the rest of the shirt. (Actually, I wish the whole shirt was like the right sleeve.) It's the fact that the black is more prominent on my right sleeve that makes the pattern look like it's running perpendicularly. Actually it's crazy-obviously messed up now. It's like a shirt from two different fabrics! It's way more obvious in real life than in the picture below. Man, that's crazy. I wonder, could it be the fabric on the sleeve is turned inside out, from the rest ? How does stuff like this ever pass QC inspection? This kind of stuff is killing Gustin's reputation and I'm 100% certain that any G employee would have rejected this on the spot if they had seen it before it shipped out. They know this stuff eventually gets posted and circulated. The only explanation I can imagine for this is the sew-ers are paid by the piece and they just keep cranking this shit out. Gustin must have some clawback agreements in cases like this, though. That is, if the garments are traceable back to the individual sew-ers. I hope G didn't burn bridges with their first sew shop.. isn't there some new sew shop coming on-line in LA with a crack squad of tailors? Wouldn't that be something..
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Post by usctroll on Feb 22, 2015 19:54:09 GMT -6
Dude, there is no QC inspection by Gustin staff. I think that's pretty obvious by now. They might be relying on the sew shop, but that's the fox watching the henhouse.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 22, 2015 20:45:25 GMT -6
Dude, there is no QC inspection by Gustin staff. I think that's pretty obvious by now. They might be relying on the sew shop, but that's the fox watching the henhouse. They can't have any QC team at all.
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Post by felizuno on Feb 22, 2015 22:24:46 GMT -6
Fulfillment QC:
"Is this the correct item? Does the size marked on this thing match the size on the purchase order in my other hand?"
yes -> put it in the bag no -> grab the next one in the pile and repeat
(That said I've been shipped the wrong item and the wrong size before so IDK)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 23:41:44 GMT -6
Fulfillment QC: "Is this the correct item? Does the size marked on this thing match the size on the purchase order in my other hand?" yes -> put it in the bag no -> grab the next one in the pile and repeat (That said I've been shipped the wrong item and the wrong size before so IDK) "Measure each completed order to match it with the size on the purchase order? Ain't nobody got time for dat!" - Fulfillment QC probably.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2015 23:46:21 GMT -6
It's kind of amazing that Gustin manages to keep selling their shirts. The comments posted on a recent Instagram post (Thomas Mason Oxfords) are pretty rough. I hope Gustin can work these things out as I get a bad feeling that the tide is turning on them. But the comments don't have to do with misalignment, but rather delayed shipments, and possible sizing issues. Are Reddit and SF members also having issues with misalignment? I've seen quite a few here, but I don't Reddit and I haven't been on SF in a while.
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Post by jamesr on Feb 23, 2015 6:58:33 GMT -6
devastitis, fair point. I rarely look at either Reddit or SF, so I cannot say. It seems weird that it is so prominent here yet not in other places. I have three Gustin patterned shirts, two of which are "off". Based on the shirts I have received, I wouldn't order any more.
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Post by Mattbert on Feb 23, 2015 7:20:39 GMT -6
Mystery solved! The fabric of the right sleeve has the right side facing out, and the rest of the shirt has the wrong side facing out. That is an interesting way to mess up a shirt! Oh wow, that is amazing. Honestly, part of me feels like someone from this forum* should order each patterned shirt from Gustin** just to see how many new and amusing ways a shirt can be put together with staggering incompetence. Just when you think the sew shop has exhausted all methods by which the pooch can be screwed, they come up with something else to surprise and delight you! * Either we just take turns rotating through as the sacrificial lamb, or someone volunteers to take the bullet and we all pass the hat for that poor bastard or something. ** No, not really. That would be a really dumb waste of money. But these are always incredibly funny, especially when you're not the one with the jacked up shirt.
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