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Post by bentin on Jan 28, 2015 16:11:29 GMT -6
Does anyone have a patterned G Oxford that is aligned, symmetric and sized to spec? Just curious if this unicorn exists?
Since it seems like most (non Middle Age) workshirts are pretty well done, just shifting their Oxford production to whoever makes their WS's would fix a lot of their issues. Just seems odd that this is so difficult for G to get right.
For the record, I have a Flag Plaid that has a misaligned placket, but the yoke and pattern are pretty square. Not perfect, mind you, but not bad for a G patterned Ox.
Does anyone have the pointy headed horse?
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Post by ickes on Jan 28, 2015 17:00:25 GMT -6
I'll double check when I get home but I believe that I do.
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 28, 2015 18:32:52 GMT -6
I would say the different shops are the culprit.
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 28, 2015 18:39:43 GMT -6
I've got one that's not too bad. The yoke isn't perfectly straight but is acceptable (just barely), but the cuffs are mismatched, so I'm not sure it meets the thread requirement of being as good as a $20 shirt from Old Navy or The Gap. In fact, if I get one more bad shirt from Gustin that needs to be returned, I'll probably end up chucking this one is as well and ask for a refund on it too. It's not an $81 shirt by any means
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Post by elefantown on Feb 21, 2015 12:47:38 GMT -6
#121 INDIGOXRED FLANNEL Just wanted to post my experience with a Gustin patterned shirt. It's really disappointing that they haven't addressed this alignment issue... The alignment is slanted and the center area also doesn't overlap correctly. After looking at other brands (e.g. jcrew), it seems like most places get it right, except Gustin.... this is supposed to be better because it's made in the USA, but they are honestly failing in this department. This one was returned without a problem, also the alignment issue looked more noticeable in person than in this photo. Having to wait sooo long to get this really makes me feel like I'll just pay a little more for something I can easily exchange.  I also own the PB Flannel and it's not aligned well either, especially the back, but I kept it because of the fabric and gave them another try. They have some nice fabrics, but they seem to be happy handing out these shirts and hoping not many people notice? Also sizing was bigger on the IndigoXRed than my PB Flannel. |
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Post by elefantown on Feb 21, 2015 12:58:51 GMT -6
Found this one on Instagram. - Alignment not so bad, but not as good as other comparable brands (or gustin's own pictures). - Center overlap not even close.  I love their jeans though, I own 5 pairs... and just backed another.  I just hope they resolve their shirt issues, which they must be aware of by now... none of their model's shirts are ever mis-aligned. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 13:08:03 GMT -6
Actually you can find several examples of misaligned plackets and a few pockets alignment issues on a few of their model pics. It really is ridiculous.
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Post by exophobe on Feb 21, 2015 13:42:55 GMT -6
good lord. I was going to make fun of the red x indigo (did they seriously sew the pocket on crooked to try to hide that the whole thing was cut crooked in the first place?) and then I saw that other one. That's an amazing lack of competence on the part of the cutter, and then it was made worse by the person sewing it together. I gave the Monster Twill a shot, so I hope all the people involved with those two shirts (especially that cloud blue flannel) are on vacation while those are being sewn up -- though I'm afraid that this is just what the shop Gustin uses is putting out now. I honestly hope they've pursued other careers at the insistence of their hopefully former employer. These are the reasons why many manufacturers refuse to move their production back to the USA, and with this sort of workmanship and pride, you almost can't help but agree.
That collar is a cruel f!@king joke on an $80 shirt. It'd be bad enough on a $15 shirt.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 13:51:24 GMT -6
#121 INDIGOXRED FLANNEL Just wanted to post my experience with a Gustin patterned shirt. It's really disappointing that they haven't addressed this alignment issue... The alignment is slanted and the center area also doesn't overlap correctly. After looking at other brands (e.g. jcrew), it seems like most places get it right, except Gustin.... this is supposed to be better because it's made in the USA, but they are honestly failing in this department. This one was returned without a problem, also the alignment issue looked more noticeable in person than in this photo. Having to wait sooo long to get this really makes me feel like I'll just pay a little more for something I can easily exchange. I also own the PB Flannel and it's not aligned well either, especially the back, but I kept it because of the fabric and gave them another try. They have some nice fabrics, but they seem to be happy handing out these shirts and hoping not many people notice? Also sizing was bigger on the IndigoXRed than my PB Flannel. The uniformed/uneducated buyers get take advantage by companies. This is pretty much how the market works. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 13:54:24 GMT -6
good lord. I was going to make fun of the red x indigo (did they seriously sew the pocket on crooked to try to hide that the whole thing was cut crooked in the first place?) and then I saw that other one. That's an amazing lack of competence on the part of the cutter, and then it was made worse by the person sewing it together. I gave the Monster Twill a shot, so I hope all the people involved with those two shirts (especially that cloud blue flannel) are on vacation while those are being sewn up -- though I'm afraid that this is just what the shop Gustin uses is putting out now. I honestly hope they've pursued other careers at the insistence of their hopefully former employer. These are the reasons why many manufacturers refuse to move their production back to the USA, and with this sort of workmanship and pride, you almost can't help but agree. That collar is a cruel f!@king joke on an $80 shirt. It'd be bad enough on a $15 shirt. It is not the cutter. It is trying to use the least amount of fabric to make the most numbers of shirts. No waste, remember? |
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Post by felizuno on Feb 21, 2015 13:58:02 GMT -6
That shirt is an absolute disgrace, if somebody sewed my last name on to that shirt I would punch them in the f*ing neck. Can't believe they keep doing pattern shirts through this shop. |
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Post by exophobe on Feb 21, 2015 14:05:30 GMT -6
It is not the cutter. It is trying to use the least amount of fabric to make the most numbers of shirts. No waste, remember? You can cut this shit straight and waste just as much fabric. That would explain the collar, but not all the stroke victim shirts. Either way, point stands, this is doing a disservice to American made goods, and in doing so showing that all the places charging $400 for a shirt are right. You can't make reasonably priced goods in America. At this point it looks like f!@king sabotage. I don't know how five people can touch a shirt like that, and then put a shipping label on it. Absolute disgrace. Sorry to get worked up, but this is just ridiculous. |
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Post by elefantown on Feb 21, 2015 14:21:20 GMT -6
exophobe - I would have to agree, it's a disservice to American made goods. Really is disappointing that Gustin seems to be ignoring the issue. I emailed them about my PB Flannel back alignment when I first received it and got a standard "sorry it didn't work out for you, gladly accept return" email they send out, but the PB Flannel front and placket were ok and so I kept it. The only reason I stick with their denim is because of fit and I haven't had issues... and their price points/selection is better than most in my opinion.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 21, 2015 15:00:55 GMT -6
The patterned shirts I won't touch. Rather go to Jcrew or Polo for less or get a higher end polo shirt for cheaper with better quality.
It's a shame they can't get it right makes me stay away from all shirts becuase they can't make a patterned shirt to save their life. Old navy has better alignments.
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Post by derek on Feb 21, 2015 17:37:46 GMT -6
I got a patterned shirt today, and I was prepared for the worst. 1) Placket? Pretty straight! From top to bottom it varies by like 1 or 2 mm. 2) Center overlap? Pretty close! I'd say again: off by like 1 or 2 mm. It's a pretty irregular pattern, so it's hard to tell what's right and what's wrong without looking closely. 3) Pocket alignment? Very good or perfect! 4) Center alignment? I'm not sure how to evaluate this. The pattern on the placket is like 1mm below the pattern to the left and right of the placket (which match). I that way, it looks like Ratio's (https://www.ratioclothing.com/t/flannel). 5) Side alignment? I don't even know if this is a thing, but it is not good. I don't even know if it's supposed to be good though. Can anybody tell me? 6) Fit? The chest and waist measurements are exactly right for the large slim. Unfortunately I realized that I'm not a large slim, so the shirt doesn't fit as I'd like. So I'm probably sending it back. Anyway, I think Gustin made a good patterned shirt! Too bad I messed it up by getting the wrong size.   |
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Post by ickes on Feb 21, 2015 17:47:14 GMT -6
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Post by derek on Feb 21, 2015 17:55:16 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Feb 21, 2015 18:14:09 GMT -6
its nice
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Post by derek on Feb 21, 2015 19:10:17 GMT -6
I think so too! I might actually keep it even though it's a little trim. The orange-red-black is a cool color combo.
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Post by scooter on Feb 21, 2015 20:49:50 GMT -6
I got a patterned shirt today, and I was prepared for the worst. 1) Placket? Pretty straight! From top to bottom it varies by like 1 or 2 mm. 2) Center overlap? Pretty close! I'd say again: off by like 1 or 2 mm. It's a pretty irregular pattern, so it's hard to tell what's right and what's wrong without looking closely. 3) Pocket alignment? Very good or perfect! 4) Center alignment? I'm not sure how to evaluate this. The pattern on the placket is like 1mm below the pattern to the left and right of the placket (which match). I that way, it looks like Ratio's (https://www.ratioclothing.com/t/flannel). 5) Side alignment? I don't even know if this is a thing, but it is not good. I don't even know if it's supposed to be good though. Can anybody tell me? 6) Fit? The chest and waist measurements are exactly right for the large slim. Unfortunately I realized that I'm not a large slim, so the shirt doesn't fit as I'd like. So I'm probably sending it back. Anyway, I think Gustin made a good patterned shirt! Too bad I messed it up by getting the wrong size. I'm waiting on this, too. I'm wondering which version I will get? I've seen pics of it from 2 members. The pattern is turned 90°, from one to the other. |
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Post by ickes on Feb 21, 2015 21:01:04 GMT -6
damn, kinda wish I would've backed that one
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 21:18:10 GMT -6
I got a patterned shirt today, and I was prepared for the worst. 1) Placket? Pretty straight! From top to bottom it varies by like 1 or 2 mm. 2) Center overlap? Pretty close! I'd say again: off by like 1 or 2 mm. It's a pretty irregular pattern, so it's hard to tell what's right and what's wrong without looking closely. 3) Pocket alignment? Very good or perfect! 4) Center alignment? I'm not sure how to evaluate this. The pattern on the placket is like 1mm below the pattern to the left and right of the placket (which match). I that way, it looks like Ratio's (https://www.ratioclothing.com/t/flannel). 5) Side alignment? I don't even know if this is a thing, but it is not good. I don't even know if it's supposed to be good though. Can anybody tell me? 6) Fit? The chest and waist measurements are exactly right for the large slim. Unfortunately I realized that I'm not a large slim, so the shirt doesn't fit as I'd like. So I'm probably sending it back. Anyway, I think Gustin made a good patterned shirt! Too bad I messed it up by getting the wrong size. The left and right are off aligned. I will definitely send this back. Not wearable. |
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Post by derek on Feb 21, 2015 22:18:03 GMT -6
I got a patterned shirt today, and I was prepared for the worst. 1) Placket? Pretty straight! From top to bottom it varies by like 1 or 2 mm. 2) Center overlap? Pretty close! I'd say again: off by like 1 or 2 mm. It's a pretty irregular pattern, so it's hard to tell what's right and what's wrong without looking closely. 3) Pocket alignment? Very good or perfect! 4) Center alignment? I'm not sure how to evaluate this. The pattern on the placket is like 1mm below the pattern to the left and right of the placket (which match). I that way, it looks like Ratio's (https://www.ratioclothing.com/t/flannel). 5) Side alignment? I don't even know if this is a thing, but it is not good. I don't even know if it's supposed to be good though. Can anybody tell me? 6) Fit? The chest and waist measurements are exactly right for the large slim. Unfortunately I realized that I'm not a large slim, so the shirt doesn't fit as I'd like. So I'm probably sending it back. Anyway, I think Gustin made a good patterned shirt! Too bad I messed it up by getting the wrong size. The left and right are off aligned. I will definitely send this back. Not wearable. Thanks for the input! I don't understand what you mean by the left and right are off aligned. Is it one of the things I mentioned or something I didn't notice? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 22:43:26 GMT -6
The left and right are off aligned. I will definitely send this back. Not wearable. Thanks for the input! I don't understand what you mean by the left and right are off aligned. Is it one of the things I mentioned or something I didn't notice? Shirt looks fine to me, for the most part, besides what you mentioned. Unlike the other couple shirts that were posted and crazily misaligned, I don't see anything that pops out as horrific on your shirt, which is a good thing I guess. And interesting he said that when he decided not to "definitely send back" either of his "not wearable" shirts. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 23:04:46 GMT -6
The left and right are off aligned. I will definitely send this back. Not wearable. Thanks for the input! I don't understand what you mean by the left and right are off aligned. Is it one of the things I mentioned or something I didn't notice? #2 or #4 on your list. Since the fit doesn't work for you, I would just return it. |
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