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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2015 16:28:47 GMT -6
The only lifestyle I would like them to promote is one where they deliver on their promises. Since this won't go away, I also found this interesting on one of their updates: We never asked anyone to fund our company, we simply wanted their help in creating a job training program where individuals could come and learn the skills necessary to manufacture clothing. After completing their training, the intent was to hire the student at LD with a minimum starting wage of $10/hr. With a job training program in place, LD was on track to exceed hiring 100 new employees within the first year. It was intended to be a good starting point for someone who was currently unemployed or on state assisted programs or for a student who had just graduated high school and didn't see college as a option. We wanted to teach a dying trade that has since gone overseas. Something they could be proud to be a part of for years to come and that would provide a steady source of income and benefits.What the f!@k would they call their kickstarter crowdfunding campaign? training program...complete shenanigans. he really likes to bounce around and sample all of the different flavors of blame. does he think that people are unable to connect the dots from moment to moment? from the ks page: "Your pledge means we secure 100 new sewing machines so we hire 200 American craftsmen and women..." (hire ≠ training program) also from the ks page under risks/challenges (just because it makes me chuckle): "We don't foresee any problems with hitting our delivery date and supplying you with your beautifully handmade, American made Selvedge denim and leather products when you expect them. If for some reason we do run into any delays of any kind with production or delivery, we'll be completely transparent with you and communicate with you throughout the entire process, and that's a promise." perhaps his largest obstacle of not enough skilled laborers would have been mitigated had he actually instituted a training program. did the haters drive all of the prospective students away? Anyone remember the "sign-up to make your own denim" weekend class that he offered up? Wasn't it a few hundred dollars and you get to do the work to make your own denim? |
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Post by devastitis on Nov 24, 2015 16:34:44 GMT -6
training program...complete shenanigans. he really likes to bounce around and sample all of the different flavors of blame. does he think that people are unable to connect the dots from moment to moment? from the ks page: "Your pledge means we secure 100 new sewing machines so we hire 200 American craftsmen and women..." (hire ≠ training program) also from the ks page under risks/challenges (just because it makes me chuckle): "We don't foresee any problems with hitting our delivery date and supplying you with your beautifully handmade, American made Selvedge denim and leather products when you expect them. If for some reason we do run into any delays of any kind with production or delivery, we'll be completely transparent with you and communicate with you throughout the entire process, and that's a promise." perhaps his largest obstacle of not enough skilled laborers would have been mitigated had he actually instituted a training program. did the haters drive all of the prospective students away? Anyone remember the "sign-up to make your own denim" weekend class that he offered up? Wasn't it a few hundred dollars and you get to do the work to make your own denim? And after you complete the "weekend class", he forces you into labor without pay. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 16:51:50 GMT -6
matt said: Anyone remember the "sign-up to make your own denim" weekend class that he offered up? Wasn't it a few hundred dollars and you get to do the work to make your own denim? wonder what happened to the two people who actually backed that: "Pledge $1,500 or more 2 backers A day at Lawless! Learn how to make a pair of jeans. You pick the denim and take them home with you when they're done. We take care of your flight, room and board. Stay at a 4 star Hotel. Have dinner with the team." |
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Post by matt on Nov 24, 2015 17:17:55 GMT -6
matt said: Anyone remember the "sign-up to make your own denim" weekend class that he offered up? Wasn't it a few hundred dollars and you get to do the work to make your own denim? wonder what happened to the two people who actually backed that: "Pledge $1,500 or more 2 backers A day at Lawless! Learn how to make a pair of jeans. You pick the denim and take them home with you when they're done. We take care of your flight, room and board. Stay at a 4 star Hotel. Have dinner with the team." Wow. Some poor sap is still holding out hope that they'll get their money back on that one. |
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Post by hgs on Nov 24, 2015 17:36:46 GMT -6
Those were probably fake pledges by Roman & co.
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Post by jdtmn on Nov 24, 2015 22:32:24 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue.
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Post by DigDug on Nov 24, 2015 22:45:09 GMT -6
Classic
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Nov 24, 2015 22:54:18 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. I hope someone took a screenshot because I'm pretty sure the AZ AG would be interested in that. How dumb can you be to post something like that when you know the AG is investigating you? |
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Post by devastitis on Nov 24, 2015 22:55:07 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. Why isn't he in prison for fraud already. |
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Post by devastitis on Nov 24, 2015 22:56:23 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. I hope someone took a screenshot because I'm pretty sure the AZ AG would be interested in that. How dumb can you be to post something like that when you know the AG is investigating you? This exactly. He's public about all his shady dealing. How is he still scot-free. |
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Nov 24, 2015 22:57:37 GMT -6
I took a screenshot just in case.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 24, 2015 22:57:52 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. Someone should make sure the DA is made aware that they are making threats to people who have talked to the AG unless they claim they made a mistake by reporting it. By the looks of things, complaints to the AG are the only thing that got them to crawl back out from under that rock. Speaking of, where are my f!@king orders, roman ? I haven't complained to the AZAG or charged back, and you've banned me from communicating with you for asking in a civil tone. I would also settle for a money order since you certainly can't be trusted to write checks, and you may have already given my order to some other complainant. |
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Post by yabut on Nov 24, 2015 23:43:49 GMT -6
The AG is definitely working the case. They emailed me for an update recently, and thankfully I was able to say that my cc granted the chargeback.
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Post by gaseousclay on Nov 25, 2015 9:22:03 GMT -6
The AG is definitely working the case. They emailed me for an update recently, and thankfully I was able to say that my cc granted the chargeback. they emailed me as well. Unfortunately, I have received jack squat in the form of a refund or product. I even logged into my LD&Co account and sent them another message asking me where my order was. |
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Post by bentin on Nov 25, 2015 10:47:22 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. I hope someone took a screenshot because I'm pretty sure the AZ AG would be interested in that. How dumb can you be to post something like that when you know the AG is investigating you? How dumb? The answer is Roman dumb. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Nov 25, 2015 15:04:22 GMT -6
I took a screenshot of LD's instagram and sent it to the AZAG. Don't know what they'll do but will report back if they say something relevant
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Post by scooter on Nov 25, 2015 15:27:25 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. From what I read, it sounds as though RA has been ordered, by the DA, to refund all orders of customers who have filed a complaint with the DA. RA has no choice in the matter. The only way he would be allowed to fulfill an order is if the complaint was rescinded. Reporting this to the AZAG is probably unnecessary. They may even be aware of the agreement, already. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 25, 2015 15:40:49 GMT -6
Interesting exchange on LD&Co IG. After LOTS of people inquiring about orders, LD responded to a posting by Superior Goods. LD indicates they will not be completing any orders for people who have filed a complaint with the DA unless that complaint is rescinded. If the complaint is formally rescinded the order will go back in queue. Odd tactic. Refuse to fulfill orders for people formally complaining they did not get their orders fulfilled. And if you rescind the complaint, you'll go back into the "good luck ever getting fulfilled or hearing from us" queue. From what I read, it sounds as though RA has been ordered, by the DA, to refund all orders of customers who have filed a complaint with the DA. RA has no choice in the matter. The only way he would be allowed to fulfill an order is if the complaint was rescinded. Reporting this to the AZAG is probably unnecessary. They may even be aware of the agreement, already. Thats what I got from that exchange. I am sure they are up his ass but you never know |
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Post by scooter on Nov 25, 2015 15:48:21 GMT -6
From what I read, it sounds as though RA has been ordered, by the DA, to refund all orders of customers who have filed a complaint with the DA. RA has no choice in the matter. The only way he would be allowed to fulfill an order is if the complaint was rescinded. Reporting this to the AZAG is probably unnecessary. They may even be aware of the agreement, already. Thats what I got from that exchange. I am sure they are up his ass but you never know RA makes it sound as if he has an "agreement" with the DA. But, I believe it was ordered. When it comes right down to it, if the DA actually gave him a choice, he would prefer not to pull out his wallet. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Nov 25, 2015 16:01:54 GMT -6
well, if RA actually refunds my money i'll rescind my complaint with the AZAG, otherwise, he can take a flying f*ck through a rolling donut
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Post by scooter on Nov 25, 2015 16:21:01 GMT -6
well, if RA actually refunds my money i'll rescind my complaint with the AZAG, otherwise, he can take a flying f*ck through a rolling donut Has your complaint been forwarded to the DA ? It sounds like they are the ones leading the charge, and it wouldn't be the first time 2 government entities failed to communicate with one another. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Nov 25, 2015 18:09:48 GMT -6
well, if RA actually refunds my money i'll rescind my complaint with the AZAG, otherwise, he can take a flying f*ck through a rolling donut Has your complaint been forwarded to the DA ? It sounds like they are the ones leading the charge, and it wouldn't be the first time 2 government entities failed to communicate with one another. No idea |
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Post by beeranddenim on Nov 26, 2015 10:01:11 GMT -6
Here's what Roman Acevedo posted
Ldandco @instagramusername according to our records you have disputed your order with the DA. Per our agreement with the DA, those who have disputed with him will get their money back. We will not be completing orders for anyone who has filed a complaint with the DA. If you choose to rescind your dispute we will place your order back into the queue with the others. Thanks Mike for reaching out
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That was news to me. As I told the DA, one of my orders was paid with an Amex gift card which for obvious reasons I no longer have. So I'll need a cash refund. Not a charge back.
Expect a 50% sale to drive revenue to fund these refunds!
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Post by usctroll on Nov 26, 2015 17:01:33 GMT -6
A year later I'd still love to see my pullover, moto kevlar jeans and type II jacket.
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Post by jdtmn on Nov 27, 2015 14:38:41 GMT -6
No Black Friday deal this year at LD&Co?
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