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Post by Old26 on Aug 14, 2015 12:45:25 GMT -6
Note that anyone at this point spending money in a certain direction gets no sympathy here, and we may just vote you out of the forum for being a dope! I'm sorta joking. Not sure
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Post by Griffin on Aug 14, 2015 12:52:12 GMT -6
Fool me twice.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2015 13:55:44 GMT -6
Still Waiting 2 orders from November 2014... Too late for mailing my bank to get a refund ? ~8 months
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Post by matt on Aug 14, 2015 13:59:12 GMT -6
Still Waiting 2 orders from November 2014... Too late for mailing my bank to get a refund ? ~8 months There's enough documentation between here and the various posts from the company to give your bank more than enough info to process a chargeback.
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Post by efrenlopez on Aug 14, 2015 21:17:51 GMT -6
This is kind of a strange answer. One would assume that the ONLY reason you denied being tied to Roman in any way was because you knew exactly what he's done over the past few months. Secondly, if you're trying to keep your products secretive then why throw up kevlar denim (materials sourced by our good buddy Roman) on your beta site? Doesn't seem very secretive. Oh and by the way, the last time i ever heard about Lawless Denim itself was when i talked to Sal in 2014, and back then I can only remember a pair of jeans and a Horween jacket up for sale. This seems extremely unlikely.
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Post by 1aboveall on Aug 14, 2015 21:37:46 GMT -6
If you believe in the 6 Degrees of separation. Then Reservoir1885 is only 2 degrees separated from LD. At Hash Tag #Reservoir1885 there's this pic http://instagr.am/p/6NoApFquxW In the comments there's Hash Tag #ArizonaCafeRacer Go there and LD is Affiliated with or at least friends. http://instagr.am/p/4vudlfK6hS Hello all, I am Kala's Brother. She showed this forum to me and I would like to chime in on a few things. First my full disclosure. I was invited by a friend to check out LD&co back in early November of 2014 if memory serves me correct. That was my first time meeting Roman and Sal. During that visit I learned that Roman had a Motorcycle that was in need of repair and we made a deal to get it done. It was a barter job, product for labor. Around the same time I went into a partnership with a company called Roast Moto. We were/are a small custom bike shop and I came on as a partner/builder. At one point in time Roast was offered space in the same building as LD&co, but nothing came to fruition. I am also a Member of ACR or Arizona Cafe Racers, a 300 member group of riders in AZ. This is where that connection between LD&co and ACR comes from. ACR as a group and Roast Moto have been invited to Romans facility for events and photo/video shoots with myself as the contact point. Some members have purchased product. I cannot speak as to their experience and will not speculate as my main goal is to outline the clubs "affiliation" with LD&co. I will say that the moto culture in AZ was excited to have a denim manufacturer that could cater to us. Roman reached out to us as a club on many occasions and for various reasons. This is the extent of Club level dealings with LD&CO. I will be happy to answer any questions with regard to ACR, Roast Moto, and my experience with the products I received. I am not here to get involved with the denim debate on lawless, I am simply responding to statements about my club. Cheers.
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Post by exophobe on Aug 14, 2015 22:03:07 GMT -6
1aboveall -- I think the advice here would be to watch out for reservoir 1885 reaching out and asking for favors. If you were to assume Jamison is on the up and up, you guys will likely never hear from them, but if it is a rebranding of lawless, they may try to appeal to previous groups they associated with since it would look like an obvious revenue stream to our friend. I don't think you spelled Kahla right, though, so I don't know if I trust you. I don't really want to research it, though, so if I'm remembering wrong I'm very sorry. Since this guy took a couple hundred dollars from most of the people posting in this thread, you'll understand if anything said here is brought under high scrutiny. orion23
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Post by unnamed on Aug 14, 2015 22:03:44 GMT -6
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Post by 1aboveall on Aug 14, 2015 22:21:12 GMT -6
I have never spelled it right...technically its Mykahla....if she hadn't deleted her profile she would verify...
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Post by exophobe on Aug 14, 2015 22:25:56 GMT -6
I have never spelled it right...technically its Mykahla....if she hadn't deleted her profile she would verify... Like I said, no malice here, just very skeptical of any outside-insider information from people related to this mess here, especially with the developments over this last week. Either way, if you want to hang around there are a number of people into bikes here, you may find some conversation you like.
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Post by 1aboveall on Aug 14, 2015 22:29:47 GMT -6
Its all good!
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Post by 1aboveall on Aug 14, 2015 22:53:04 GMT -6
I simply outlined involvement so that there is no questions. When I read and see that anyone who has been associated or involved with LD&co comes under scrutiny, I moved in the best interest of my club. This is not to distance or cover up any truths, it is simply to preserve the respect and integrity of our club by being honest and upfront. I was not aware of this thread or site until it was brought to my attention by Kala, and had my club not been mentioned I would never have gone through the processes of becoming involved with this sight.
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Post by Winterland on Aug 15, 2015 1:03:03 GMT -6
I simply outlined involvement so that there is no questions. When I read and see that anyone who has been associated or involved with LD&co comes under scrutiny, I moved in the best interest of my club. This is not to distance or cover up any truths, it is simply to preserve the respect and integrity of our club by being honest and upfront. I was not aware of this thread or site until it was brought to my attention by Kala, and had my club not been mentioned I would never have gone through the processes of becoming involved with this sight. Welcome to the forum. As has been explained there will be some doubters because of past circumstances. As a forum in general we welcome new members and appreciate you wanting to keep your clubs name respectful.
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Post by Winterland on Aug 15, 2015 1:06:18 GMT -6
I have never spelled it right...technically its Mykahla....if she hadn't deleted her profile she would verify... Her profile/ member status seems to be still active. orion23
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Post by 1aboveall on Aug 15, 2015 6:10:19 GMT -6
she had mentioned deleting it. I assumed she had already.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 15, 2015 8:16:56 GMT -6
Sorry for my earlier snark. We are defensive around here, and I perhaps wrongly interpreted you coming in letting us know you're around to shut us up about your connection to Roman. I definitely appreciate you wanting to maintain the integrity of your club. Welcome to the board.
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Post by DigDug on Aug 15, 2015 8:27:07 GMT -6
1aboveall welcome to our group. Many of us are Jaded with LD. We/I can appreciate your concern for the good name of your club. Reputations in any community are important. Again welcome aboard.
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Post by orion23 on Aug 15, 2015 9:17:14 GMT -6
I have never spelled it right...technically its Mykahla....if she hadn't deleted her profile she would verify... Her profile/ member status seems to be still active. orion23 Not deleted just don't feel like being threatened anymore. But yes he's my brother, and no not even 1aboveall spells my name right. It's KAHLA!
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Post by Winterland on Aug 15, 2015 10:55:55 GMT -6
From here out we want to keep this thread limited to actual order information and other details that will help customers know where things are at with orders and refunds.
We feel that some of the personal information being detailed here could just be adding to the drama of the situation.
We believe there has been enough posted for any newcomers to understand the scope of the situation.
If there is any new pertinent information that needs to be shared feel free to PM the Mods or me.
Posts here not falling in these guidelines will be deleted.
Thanks your Mods.
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Post by DigDug on Aug 15, 2015 12:24:12 GMT -6
Order UpDate - Replaced Missing LD shirts with the following - Tellason Clampdown Dark moss 8oz canvas -Iron Heart Indigo Waffle - Sugar Cane Wabash 8.5 oz
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 15, 2015 13:15:47 GMT -6
Her profile/ member status seems to be still active. orion23 Not deleted just don't feel like being threatened anymore. But yes he's my brother, and no not even 1aboveall spells my name right. It's KAHLA! Nobody on either side of this thing should be threatened over this. That's absurd and sorry if it happened. It's about jeans. Let's keep it to jeans.
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 15, 2015 15:12:27 GMT -6
I wouldn't touch this brand with DigDug 's money. Just another brand to stay far as hell away from. I still am looking at my lawless shirt and just shake my head. I would sell it for $20 if I could but no one would buy it. Sucks it came to this. You can't even feel safe buying from newer companies because of this.
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Post by bigblack on Aug 15, 2015 16:49:10 GMT -6
I wouldn't touch this brand with DigDug 's money. Just another brand to stay far as hell away from. I still am looking at my lawless shirt and just shake my head. I would sell it for $20 if I could but no one would buy it. Sucks it came to this. You can't even feel safe buying from newer companies because of this. what shirt do you have?
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 15, 2015 16:50:42 GMT -6
I wouldn't touch this brand with DigDug 's money. Just another brand to stay far as hell away from. I still am looking at my lawless shirt and just shake my head. I would sell it for $20 if I could but no one would buy it. Sucks it came to this. You can't even feel safe buying from newer companies because of this. what shirt do you have? Maybe you can tell me! It was suppose to be a heavy chambray. But I got the mystery twill/chambray. Indigo Two pocket front Size large Black snaps Contrast stitching
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 15, 2015 16:52:38 GMT -6
Maybe you can tell me! It was suppose to be a heavy chambray. But I got the mystery twill/chambray. Indigo Two pocket front Size large Black snaps Contrast stitching Take a photo. I might buy it!
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