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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 11:03:29 GMT -6
They're loomstates. You need to shrink them to your size. By wearing them in the wash, they shrink to your exact fit. At least that's the plan. I know, but why wear them in the tub, but take them off to hang dry them? Isn't the drying on your body creating the effect you guys go for? I guess it's because people don't have the tendency to remain in one position for a long period of time, unless sleeping. If you can move around like the tin man in Wizard of Oz for long periods of time, I guess you'd be good to go. Otherwise, you risk stretching parts of the pants that you don't want stretched out causing bagging.
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Jun 26, 2015 11:31:03 GMT -6
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Post by nater on Jun 26, 2015 11:31:03 GMT -6
Question for ickes: when wearing the Zoomies in the tub should I cuff them up at all due to the length? I have about a 29" inseam and I know these are coming in at 36" pre-soak.
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Post by exophobe on Jun 26, 2015 11:37:17 GMT -6
I know, but why wear them in the tub, but take them off to hang dry them? Isn't the drying on your body creating the effect you guys go for? I was under the impression that when I wash a pair of jeans, the shrinkage is occurring during the drying process, since this is how it seems. However, since I've never done a soak in the bathtub, I'm wondering if this is a misconception and that the shrinkage actually occurs when the fabric gets wet, rather than as it dries. ickes etc - does the shrinkage occur during in the soak?
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 12:10:20 GMT -6
what's the point of wearing them in the tub? The point of wearing them in the tub is so that they will basically conform to your body and prevent any part of the jean shrinking up too small. For example, if your Loomstates fit snug or just right in the waist right out of the bag then when you wear them while soaking it will prevent the waist from shrinking down past the point of your actual waist size. This prevents them from shrinking too small in the waist to where you can't button them up when dry....and/or a potentially painful stretching out period if you can still button them by chance. This goes for all parts of the jeans, thighs, etc...it just allows for a better fit.
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 12:13:52 GMT -6
They're loomstates. You need to shrink them to your size. By wearing them in the wash, they shrink to your exact fit. At least that's the plan. I know, but why wear them in the tub, but take them off to hang dry them? Isn't the drying on your body creating the effect you guys go for? No, it's the wearing them in the water while they shrink to conform to your body that is creating the effect that we are going for. I don't recommend wearing them while they dry because at some point you will want to sit down or you will have to squat/bend in them. What this does is creates knee bags which is not a desirable look IMO. Unless you can keep your legs stiff for 12 plus hours and walk around like Tin Man as devastitis said...while wearing wet jeans...then I would recommend taking them off and letting them hang dry.
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 12:15:06 GMT -6
Question for ickes: when wearing the Zoomies in the tub should I cuff them up at all due to the length? I have about a 29" inseam and I know these are coming in at 36" pre-soak. I would just throw them on and soak them without cuffing. Then the next day after they've dried you can cuff if you want.
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 12:16:59 GMT -6
I know, but why wear them in the tub, but take them off to hang dry them? Isn't the drying on your body creating the effect you guys go for? I was under the impression that when I wash a pair of jeans, the shrinkage is occurring during the drying process, since this is how it seems. However, since I've never done a soak in the bathtub, I'm wondering if this is a misconception and that the shrinkage actually occurs when the fabric gets wet, rather than as it dries. ickes etc - does the shrinkage occur during in the soak? Exactly, it's the soaking that shrinks the denim, NOT the hang drying...it's the contact with water. The second you sit in the tub with the jeans on you will start to feel them shrink up. It's pretty cool actually...lol.
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Jun 26, 2015 12:34:41 GMT -6
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Post by scooter on Jun 26, 2015 12:34:41 GMT -6
I was under the impression that when I wash a pair of jeans, the shrinkage is occurring during the drying process, since this is how it seems. However, since I've never done a soak in the bathtub, I'm wondering if this is a misconception and that the shrinkage actually occurs when the fabric gets wet, rather than as it dries. ickes etc - does the shrinkage occur during in the soak? Exactly, it's the soaking that shrinks the denim, NOT the hang drying...it's the contact with water. The second you sit in the tub with the jeans on you will start to feel them shrink up. It's pretty cool actually...lol. I concur. The majority of the shrinkage does happen during the soak. There is a little during drying, but not substantial. While doing my SG recently, I did wear them post-soak. I did notice a bit of tightening as they dried. They certainly retained more of my shape, as well. I do believe the shape is "set" during drying. That being said, though, I don't believe it is necessary to wear them while drying, if you wore them during the soak, as long as you minimize handling afterwards. If you have no concerns about sizing, or fit, I say just soak 'em and hang 'em.
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Post by bugula on Jun 26, 2015 12:52:18 GMT -6
just to throw this in...we're conditioned to think that drying shrinks things because of the use of a dryer on a hot cycle. these aren't being subjected to heat (unless you live in a furnace) during the drying procedure.
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Post by exophobe on Jun 26, 2015 13:37:23 GMT -6
just to throw this in...we're conditioned to think that drying shrinks things because of the use of a dryer on a hot cycle. these aren't being subjected to heat (unless you live in a furnace) during the drying procedure. so... what should I be doing if I live in a furnace?
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Post by oatwilly on Jun 26, 2015 13:39:57 GMT -6
So....to do a cold soak, and wear them during soak, you guys get into a tub of cold water for 45 minutes??
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Post by scooter on Jun 26, 2015 15:21:02 GMT -6
So....to do a cold soak, and wear them during soak, you guys get into a tub of cold water for 45 minutes?? I've heard of some soaking for only 30 minutes. 45 minutes, IMO, is bare minimum. I soak mine for a minimum of an hour. The longer you leave them soak, the more they will soften. This will help with break-in, and reduce the chance of crotch blows ( see brentkuz ).
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Jun 26, 2015 15:26:31 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 15:26:31 GMT -6
So....to do a cold soak, and wear them during soak, you guys get into a tub of cold water for 45 minutes?? When I say cold I don't mean I'm sitting in a tub of ice water, I mean that the water is room temperature to cool but still bearable.
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 15:27:10 GMT -6
just to throw this in...we're conditioned to think that drying shrinks things because of the use of a dryer on a hot cycle. these aren't being subjected to heat (unless you live in a furnace) during the drying procedure. so... what should I be doing if I live in a furnace? You should move
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Jun 26, 2015 15:45:35 GMT -6
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Post by felizuno on Jun 26, 2015 15:45:35 GMT -6
My method: wear during soak (temp based on desired shrink), take off and hang dry for ~ 2hrs to let them drip, put them on and finish them with a blow dryer. Wearing them to finish is to set the stacks, so I skip that for pairs I cuff. Blow dryer cuts down the risk period.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 16:05:09 GMT -6
My method: wear during soak (temp based on desired shrink), take off and hang dry for ~ 2hrs to let them drip, put them on and finish them with a blow dryer. Wearing them to finish is to set the stacks, so I skip that for pairs I cuff. Blow dryer cuts down the risk period. you're the true denim scientist.
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Post by quick on Jun 26, 2015 17:17:54 GMT -6
Has anyone actually got their zoomies in yet?
I'm very curious to see how this fabric compares to similarly priced denims from pbj, samurai, momotaro, oni, and ih.
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Post by ickes on Jun 26, 2015 17:24:16 GMT -6
Has anyone actually got their zoomies in yet? I'm very curious to see how this fabric compares to similarly priced denims from pbj, samurai, momotaro, oni, and ih. Me too.
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Post by oatwilly on Jun 26, 2015 19:15:04 GMT -6
wait another minute, the sitting in the tub thing you would need to do with every wash then right? Otherwise don't they shrink up to whatever they would be naturally as if you hadn't done it the first time?
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Post by scooter on Jun 26, 2015 19:20:23 GMT -6
Has anyone actually got their zoomies in yet? I'm very curious to see how this fabric compares to similarly priced denims from pbj, samurai, momotaro, oni, and ih. Mine are scheduled for delivery tomorrow. I've got Oni, Strike Gold, and 3sixteen kibata I'm going to compare them to. Both the SG and 3sixteen are loomstate, as well. I'm as curious as you are.
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Post by nater on Jun 26, 2015 19:27:13 GMT -6
Has anyone actually got their zoomies in yet? I'm very curious to see how this fabric compares to similarly priced denims from pbj, samurai, momotaro, oni, and ih. Mine are due tomorrow. I plan to do the cold soak while wearing in the tub as well. Pics forthcoming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 19:39:48 GMT -6
I don't see how they could be worth it. They were probably definitely before the yen hara kiried. Now I don't know how $165 for zloomies could be worth it compared to $179 for Momotaro IndigoxBlacks.
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 9:51:33 GMT -6
Just got mine in the mail. I ordered a 34 straight and they measure up (pre-soak) as a 32 straight.
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Post by nater on Jun 27, 2015 10:18:28 GMT -6
Currently...
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Post by tuglyfe on Jun 27, 2015 12:00:25 GMT -6
Currently... Hope you're soaking in warm enough water to leave room for the twig and berries. Also, are you enjoying a beverage while you wait?
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