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Post by jbreitenbucher on Oct 20, 2014 16:44:16 GMT -6
Just got mine. I'll try and post some picks this weekend. I went up 1 size as advised (34 slim) and they came in within spec in every measurement. It was a small struggle to get the top button buttoned but not as much as some of my other 33 slims (though my hands were blue). The thighs are too large (you can judge once I put the photos up) but hopefully will shrink in six month at the first soak.
I don't know how you guys did it with the Beast. These things are a challenge to walk and sit in. I had a hell of a time getting a double cuff. It's crazy.
I'll be rotating them with Zims and GreyxGrey with the occasional Ox2 or Brown Organic thrown in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 16:46:43 GMT -6
Mill??? I think they were hand woven on Mt. Olympus from Zeus' pubes!!!
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Post by brentkuz on Oct 20, 2014 20:12:06 GMT -6
Anyone get 38slim or 37slim 23oz in yet from batch two? I wanna know how they sewed up. If a 38slim came in 2" smaller like my first run did. Got a 36 but came at 34.5". Way too tight.
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Oct 21, 2014 17:20:15 GMT -6
Think the thighs are a little large, but otherwise I like the fit.   |
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Post by davelewis on Oct 21, 2014 17:53:17 GMT -6
Just got mine. I'll try and post some picks this weekend. I went up 1 size as advised (34 slim) and they came in within spec in every measurement. It was a small struggle to get the top button buttoned but not as much as some of my other 33 slims (though my hands were blue). The thighs are too large (you can judge once I put the photos up) but hopefully will shrink in six month at the first soak. I don't know how you guys did it with the Beast. These things are a challenge to walk and sit in. I had a hell of a time getting a double cuff. It's crazy. I'll be rotating them with Zims and GreyxGrey with the occasional Ox2 or Brown Organic thrown in. That's the problem with sizing up. If they arrive to you, as per the fit guide, then you have jeans that are one size bigger than you would normally wear. If you ordered your normal size, and they do it right, then all is good. I think your plan will work in that once you get some wears into them, you can shrink them down by water temp. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 21, 2014 18:04:31 GMT -6
Think the thighs are a little large, but otherwise I like the fit. Barely big & wonder if its more that the fabric doesn't fall at all because of the weight. I think they are F%$^ing awesome |
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Post by Derek G on Oct 21, 2014 18:37:28 GMT -6
They look good J B ....your like me..blessed with chicken legs  |
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Oct 21, 2014 18:49:57 GMT -6
Think the thighs are a little large, but otherwise I like the fit. Barely big & wonder if its more that the fabric doesn't fall at all because of the weight. I think they are F%$^ing awesome Thanks. I did think they looked good as I stood washing the die off my hands after wrestling with the fly, and I'm guessing they will drape a little better as they break in. But I seriously don't know how you guys get these things on and off. I think I now know why men used to put them on and then sleep in them and bathe in them. I have to practically lay on the bed and put them on. Getting them off is an act of a contortionist. |
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Post by highlights on Oct 21, 2014 19:25:43 GMT -6
jbreitenbucher: your 23's r lookin' GREAT, brah! they're brutes when they arrive but, following a bit of initial hard wearing, they're just a blank canvas...which will soften up. All the 23pics (here & G), so far, have been outstanding w/ each pair being unique (yep,...methinks they're "hot faders"). Love mine. The sizing issues, for me, are an impenetrable & incomprehensible jungle...I've been v. fortunate to just do 32 Straight &, w/ a bit of variation thru 9 pairs, they've all been fine...further we more, in fine denim, brah!!!
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Post by wisdom on Oct 21, 2014 20:38:13 GMT -6
Barely big & wonder if its more that the fabric doesn't fall at all because of the weight. I think they are F%$^ing awesome Thanks. I did think they looked good as I stood washing the die off my hands after wrestling with the fly, and I'm guessing they will drape a little better as they break in. But I seriously don't know how you guys get these things on and off. I think I now know why men used to put them on and then sleep in them and bathe in them. I have to practically lay on the bed and put them on. Getting them off is an act of a contortionist. When I first got the Beasts, the only way to take them off by myself was on my back, trying to work each leg off a bit at a time. It's still probably the easiest way to do it with the beasts.. and that's after using them about 70% of the time since I received them. Took me about three days of wear around the house before I was confident enough to wear them outside without worrying about getting them off to use the toilet, or on afterward. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 21, 2014 21:13:11 GMT -6
Thanks. I did think they looked good as I stood washing the die off my hands after wrestling with the fly, and I'm guessing they will drape a little better as they break in. But I seriously don't know how you guys get these things on and off. I think I now know why men used to put them on and then sleep in them and bathe in them. I have to practically lay on the bed and put them on. Getting them off is an act of a contortionist. When I first got the Beasts, the only way to take them off by myself was on my back, trying to work each leg off a bit at a time. It's still probably the easiest way to do it with the beasts.. and that's after using them about 70% of the time since I received them. Took me about three days of wear around the house before I was confident enough to wear them outside without worrying about getting them off to use the toilet, or on afterward. With My Iron Hearts I had all the same issues. My thumb was so damn sore. I eventually decided to keep the top 2 unbuttoned to avoid having to do the pee pee dance trying to get them unbuttoned. I did that for about 3 or 4 weeks & then they were fine. I also would stretch the holes out with screw drivers or whatever else could do the job (thats what she said) |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 21, 2014 21:26:59 GMT -6
wisdom, Anyone - are/were your IH as stiff as the BEAST and 23oz? I understand the buttons on all Heavy denim being hard. But is the Denim itself as stiff? IH are heavy and reported to be soft. I ask myself, Are the BEAST and 23's freaks of denim cast aside by other denim suppliers or hidden gems that Gustin dug up? (Don't get me wrong I like my BEAST, there just about tamed and will get a lot of use this winter)
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Post by yeckel on Oct 22, 2014 0:00:30 GMT -6
What Mill do you guys think the heavyweights came from? 23 oz. Collect Mills Japanese selvedge denim |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 3:40:38 GMT -6
Thanks. I did think they looked good as I stood washing the die off my hands after wrestling with the fly, and I'm guessing they will drape a little better as they break in. But I seriously don't know how you guys get these things on and off. I think I now know why men used to put them on and then sleep in them and bathe in them. I have to practically lay on the bed and put them on. Getting them off is an act of a contortionist. When I first got the Beasts, the only way to take them off by myself was on my back, trying to work each leg off a bit at a time. It's still probably the easiest way to do it with the beasts.. and that's after using them about 70% of the time since I received them. Took me about three days of wear around the house before I was confident enough to wear them outside without worrying about getting them off to use the toilet, or on afterward. I take them off by slowly inching them down, working from my calf area first |
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Post by brentkuz on Oct 22, 2014 10:02:41 GMT -6
Heckle is here too forum is really growing!
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Post by yeckel on Oct 23, 2014 8:18:29 GMT -6
Heckle is here too forum is really growing!  I still own the 23oz why would i not be. With the inclusion of tall shirts shit i might have to get one. Still need to repair the 23oz stitch popped on second from top button. |
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Post by brentkuz on Oct 23, 2014 12:02:54 GMT -6
Heckle is here too forum is really growing! I still own the 23oz why would i not be. With the inclusion of tall shirts shit i might have to get one. Still need to repair the 23oz stitch popped on second from top button. Yeckel was auto corrected to heckle. I will say my top button on the 26 was ripped day 1 within minutes. I'm going to give the 23's a shot next time around. |
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Post by PaulR on Oct 23, 2014 12:09:16 GMT -6
I still own the 23oz why would i not be. With the inclusion of tall shirts shit i might have to get one. Still need to repair the 23oz stitch popped on second from top button. Yeckel was auto corrected to heckle. I will say my top button on the 26 was ripped day 1 within minutes. I'm going to give the 23's a shot next time around. Autocorrect or Freudian slip?  |
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Post by highlights on Oct 23, 2014 19:21:00 GMT -6
From what I read The Beast is a bigger early bleeder/crocker than 23...& maybe, in ways, an easier break-in too(?). Thing I find, at these weights, is that once that critical wear-time is reached the evo process really accelerates. Regardless of the 23 fabric's provenance/mill etc & whatever, imo, they effin rock! And further, I NEED similar in raw black (pref. purple poly contrast stitching!!...I can dream...if I want to... |
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Oct 23, 2014 19:26:14 GMT -6
From what I read The Beast is a bigger early bleeder/crocker than 23...& maybe, in ways, an easier break-in too(?). Thing I find, at these weights, is that once that critical wear-time is reached the evo process really accelerates. Regardless of the 23 fabric's provenance/mill etc & whatever, imo, they effin rock! And further, I NEED similar in raw black (pref. purple poly contrast stitching!!...I can dream...if I want to... My 23s are bleeding quite a bit. Discolored a grey sweatshirts cuffs and elbows and my hands are blue all the time. |
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Post by highlights on Oct 24, 2014 2:54:54 GMT -6
jbreitenbucher: mine did too. Just increased my resolve to get 'em filthy - so I could wash 'em. After the third wash the crocking issue was pretty much done... I grow increasingly fond of 23... The hardcore fadez'r'fun guys seem to dig cycling...so been out on my son's racer for a few cruises to feed the combs, brah!!
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Post by bugula on Oct 24, 2014 6:17:41 GMT -6
Love biking in my jeans. Helps get a good fit on them but damn if it doesn't cause premature crotch blowouts.
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Post by Old26 on Oct 24, 2014 9:44:52 GMT -6
From what I read The Beast is a bigger early bleeder/crocker than 23...& maybe, in ways, an easier break-in too(?). Thing I find, at these weights, is that once that critical wear-time is reached the evo process really accelerates. Regardless of the 23 fabric's provenance/mill etc & whatever, imo, they effin rock! And further, I NEED similar in raw black (pref. purple poly contrast stitching!!...I can dream...if I want to... The pair that bled the most for ME was the Heavy American. It was my first pair of Gustin, and I remember being out to dinner last year wearing them. I looked at my hands and they were both very blue. I thought for a minute I was having a heart attack and my circulation was gone! After a lot fo wearing and some washes, they stopped. So far, that Beasts have not bled like that, but if you rub them as I've done when I spill on them, the dye comes off pretty easily. Many of my shirts are darker, and I'm not tucking at the moment due to a relapse in football weight this fall. Got a nice 10lbs to lose before I can do it again. Gotta say though, I took the Beasts out yesterday for a midday walk, and they looked fantastic in the sun. Unlike anything else I own. Finally cooling off at night so I can enjoy them - still in the 90ºs here in the say. Lovely SoCal fall |
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Post by brentkuz on Oct 24, 2014 12:41:30 GMT -6
Anyone have a 38slim 23'oz from the last campaign? If so what was the original waist measurement?
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Post by highlights on Oct 25, 2014 3:22:47 GMT -6
What Mill do you guys think the heavyweights came from? 23 oz. Collect Mills Japanese selvedge denim Yeckel, I have no reason to doubt your call re. Collect Mills...& formidable sleuthing, too, if your call is correct!  Anyhow, small blurb on them from BlueOwl: Japan Blue is a new concept by fabric maker Collect, Co, LTD. Collect is the same fabric manufacture behind Momotaro denim and has a deep routed tradition of denim making in Kojima, Okayama." |
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I still own the 23oz why would i not be. With the inclusion of tall shirts shit i might have to get one. Still need to repair the 23oz stitch popped on second from top button.
