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Post by brentkuz on Aug 20, 2015 17:14:30 GMT -6
Mine stayed the same. Chino material tend to stretch less than denim so take that into account. I really like the cut and fit of mine but have come to the conclusion that button fly, especially the sewn buttons, for chinos are stupid. They are difficult to remove unlike jean buttons and unless Gustin sews them in with steel wire in the future, mine are all loose and needed some major reinforcement or risk dropping off. I can never use a urinal again when I wear these. All that finagling makes it look like I'm about to drop my trousers in the middle of the public restroom. I'm never going to buy another without zip fly. Really a first world problem. |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 20, 2015 17:14:54 GMT -6
Nobody likes urinal finagling. I don't judge...much... |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 20, 2015 17:15:48 GMT -6
Mine stayed the same. Chino material tend to stretch less than denim so take that into account. I really like the cut and fit of mine but have come to the conclusion that button fly, especially the sewn buttons, for chinos are stupid. They are difficult to remove unlike jean buttons and unless Gustin sews them in with steel wire in the future, mine are all loose and needed some major reinforcement or risk dropping off. I can never use a urinal again when I wear these. All that finagling makes it look like I'm about to drop my trousers in the middle of the public restroom. I'm never going to buy another without zip fly. Really a first world problem. You try finagling in a urinal in the third world. You'd be lynched. It's a world wide problem. |
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Post by ickes on Aug 20, 2015 17:57:59 GMT -6
Mine stayed the same. Chino material tend to stretch less than denim so take that into account. I really like the cut and fit of mine but have come to the conclusion that button fly, especially the sewn buttons, for chinos are stupid. They are difficult to remove unlike jean buttons and unless Gustin sews them in with steel wire in the future, mine are all loose and needed some major reinforcement or risk dropping off. I can never use a urinal again when I wear these. All that finagling makes it look like I'm about to drop my trousers in the middle of the public restroom. I'm never going to buy another without zip fly. This is actually very useful info, thanks andycmd. I will probably opt for Ciano duck chinos |
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Post by quick on Aug 20, 2015 18:22:18 GMT -6
I'd get the same size as your jean size.
the chino fit is a lot better imo.
also, keep in mind that your jeans stretch as you wear them. the chinos probably stretch too, but less.
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Post by david2403 on Aug 20, 2015 18:30:06 GMT -6
Mine stayed the same. Chino material tend to stretch less than denim so take that into account. I really like the cut and fit of mine but have come to the conclusion that button fly, especially the sewn buttons, for chinos are stupid. They are difficult to remove unlike jean buttons and unless Gustin sews them in with steel wire in the future, mine are all loose and needed some major reinforcement or risk dropping off. I can never use a urinal again when I wear these. All that finagling makes it look like I'm about to drop my trousers in the middle of the public restroom. I'm never going to buy another without zip fly. I think you just convinced me to go with Ciano's duck canvas. |
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Post by exophobe on Aug 20, 2015 18:49:15 GMT -6
I'd get the same size as your jean size. the chino fit is a lot better imo. also, keep in mind that your jeans stretch as you wear them. the chinos probably stretch too, but less. The twill doesn't stretch in the same way, and the lighter weight fabric is problematic when it's tugging at the seams. I've never had a problem with the buttons embarrassing me in the bathroom, and they haven't fallen off yet. I also have a ciano button fly, and I was worried about those buttons but they've held on like little champions, too. |
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Post by mkeview on Aug 20, 2015 20:03:47 GMT -6
I love my chinos but I'll admit the buttons are just too weakly sewed in. I lost my first one today. But a few other pants look like they have buttons ready to go any day now.
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Post by quick on Aug 20, 2015 20:08:34 GMT -6
just so you know guys G will make it right.
I emailed them and told them about their crappy buttons and they sent me a whole new set and are willing to pay for a tailor to put them back on.
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Post by andycmd on Aug 21, 2015 6:57:50 GMT -6
Mine stayed the same. Chino material tend to stretch less than denim so take that into account. I really like the cut and fit of mine but have come to the conclusion that button fly, especially the sewn buttons, for chinos are stupid. They are difficult to remove unlike jean buttons and unless Gustin sews them in with steel wire in the future, mine are all loose and needed some major reinforcement or risk dropping off. I can never use a urinal again when I wear these. All that finagling makes it look like I'm about to drop my trousers in the middle of the public restroom. I'm never going to buy another without zip fly. This is actually very useful info, thanks andycmd. I will probably opt for Ciano duck chinos My favorite pair of non-denim pants are the Taylor Stitch black Chore pants and khaki chinos. If it isn't my jeans, its these 2 more so than the Gustin dark brown duck canvas chino |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 21, 2015 7:58:28 GMT -6
This is actually very useful info, thanks andycmd. I will probably opt for Ciano duck chinos My favorite pair of non-denim pants are the Taylor Stitch black Chore pants and khaki chinos. If it isn't my jeans, its these 2 more so than the Gustin dark brown duck canvas chino WhAt shoes do you wear with black chore pants? |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 21, 2015 14:57:36 GMT -6
I usually wear it with my Wolverine 1k Courtlands. Paired with a brown belt.
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Post by p0rkbelly on Aug 25, 2015 8:45:21 GMT -6
So I ordered Chinos (Japanese Acorn) for a good deal on ebay -- first pair of G chinos and I love them and the color. I think I should have sized 1 up from my jean size though. Any stretch to the twill in the chinos at all? I mean I can button them up without too much problem, just want a little bit more room and less forced muffin top action.
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 25, 2015 9:36:58 GMT -6
There should be minimal stretch. Not as much a denim but they will loosen up with pressure from your body.
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Post by p0rkbelly on Aug 25, 2015 10:00:48 GMT -6
There should be minimal stretch. Not as much a denim but they will loosen up with pressure from your body. Hopefully enough. I usually by my jeans slightly tight and expect them to stretch a bit. Bit of an oversight on my behalf. But for $48...I'll take it. |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 25, 2015 14:55:49 GMT -6
There should be minimal stretch. Not as much a denim but they will loosen up with pressure from your body. Hopefully enough. I usually by my jeans slightly tight and expect them to stretch a bit. Bit of an oversight on my behalf. But for $48...I'll take it. You can always flip them. |
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Post by scooter on Aug 25, 2015 16:03:32 GMT -6
There should be minimal stretch. Not as much a denim but they will loosen up with pressure from your body. Hopefully enough. I usually by my jeans slightly tight and expect them to stretch a bit. Bit of an oversight on my behalf. But for $48...I'll take it. That makes 2 of us. I won a pair of acorns on ebay, a couple months ago. Paid $57. 36 slims were perfect. |
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Post by Joren on Aug 29, 2015 23:20:31 GMT -6
Can anyone out there compare the Gustin American Chinos to Banana Republic's Aiden Chino?
I need to stock up on dress pants, I don't know if I should go with Gustin or save some money and get them from BR.
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Post by felizuno on Aug 30, 2015 1:41:05 GMT -6
Can anyone out there compare the Gustin American Chinos to Banana Republic's Aiden Chino? I need to stock up on dress pants, I don't know if I should go with Gustin or save some money and get them from BR. No comparison: Made in USA, JP fabric, selvedge options... BR is a China mall brand which is basically A-line GAP. Not that I don't own BR stuff (a vintage leather bomber) but I would not compare their flat front chinos to G. Also, to make sure I look like the biggest dick ever, I should call out that if you need _dress_ pants both these brands are the wrong choice. This winter when Brooks Brothers does their sale you can buy actual dress pants made from nice fabric in 3rd world countries for $80. Yount kills the game in all other USA made non-suit pants. For real tho buy the G's they're f@#ing awesome. Good luck finding out your size without spending $200 :-( :-( |
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Post by devastitis on Aug 30, 2015 8:26:05 GMT -6
Can anyone out there compare the Gustin American Chinos to Banana Republic's Aiden Chino? I need to stock up on dress pants, I don't know if I should go with Gustin or save some money and get them from BR. Bonobos is my go to for pantsing needs, besides denims. For shorts, I go Jcrew Stantons. |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 30, 2015 8:57:44 GMT -6
Can anyone out there compare the Gustin American Chinos to Banana Republic's Aiden Chino? I need to stock up on dress pants, I don't know if I should go with Gustin or save some money and get them from BR. I have Gustin and Banana republic chinos. Gustin straight desert duck Gustin slim heavy caramel Gustin slim herringbone camel Banana Republic aiden cut Nantucket red, khaki and navy. I was always a big banana republic fan. $30-35 on sale can not be beat! But construction isn't the best and materials are good but not amazing or unique. For stocking up on classic chinos for work I think these will be the best. BR has zipper fly which to me is easier for work. Plastic buttons. Gustin has a much better chambray liner now. Belt loops are better construction. Buttons are awesome on Gustin chinos. Even with the popping off problem. 3 BR vs 1 Gustin if you are looking at work pants. I think that math is the deciding. Factor. Work pants are disposable and will be worn out quicker. But I do recommend the Gustin chinos but in a more unique fabric. I didn't really touch on fit. But I wear a 35 aiden and a 36 Gustin both slim or straight. My gripe is Gustin's fit is a little odd. I've touched on that earlier in this thread. Straights and slims are damn near the same with a different rise. |
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Post by Joren on Aug 30, 2015 9:56:50 GMT -6
Thanks for all the advice guys!
I'm just gonna go for it and get the G's. I'll feel much better about it even though I'll be spending 3X as much.
Also, these will be my casual business casual pants. I have enough dress pants already, I just want to relax!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 10:44:21 GMT -6
So, to add some info to the button fly/urinal finagling conversation, I've got both the Gustin chinos (two pairs in duck) and the 18oz Ciano chinos. Love em all. All three are button fly. I can say with zero hesitation what it is about the button fly on the Gustin's that makes them a PITA to unbutton. My green ducks popped a button at a urinal the second time I wore them and the brown ducks have two loose buttons.
On the G chinos, it has to do with the width of the button slot, the style of the buttons and the tightness (closeness) which which the buttons are sewn onto the G chinos. On the other hand, the Ciano buttons are denim style meaning they are post buttons, they have space built in becasue the part of the button that goes through the slot is raised away from the fabric it's mounted into by a post. This allows all that thick ass canvas around the receiver slot someplace to go. Go look at your jeans. Are the buttons lying flat and sewn against the fly? No.
I don't want to compare which brand I like better here as I love both for totally different reasons, but I am converting both of my canvas G chinos to post buttons. It will change the entire experince of wearing them and allow a proper rip open the button fly like jeans rather than some paranoid slow motion hopeful opening while I try not to piss myself.
Thin flat buttons on a button fly are for linen pants when you're chilling out in Spain. I promise you guys, if you ditch those buttons all the problems will go away. The G chinos are nice pants, they just need better buttons.
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 30, 2015 11:38:13 GMT -6
Button fly with corozo or other slim buttons are harder to fasten. The metal shank buttons like on jeans are much easier. I have a new found love for zippers on chinos.
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Post by devastitis on Aug 30, 2015 13:05:55 GMT -6
Button fly with corozo or other slim buttons are harder to fasten. The metal shank buttons like on jeans are much easier. I have a new found love for zippers on chinos. I only do zipper flyes for chinos. Buttons are a PITA. |
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