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Post by exophobe on Nov 14, 2014 22:20:10 GMT -6
Thread for discussion of the Gustin chinos.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 14, 2014 22:21:28 GMT -6
I have the american graphite, and the japan caramel on order. Lord Gustin today indicated that there may be selvedge twill chinos in the releases tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 22:40:02 GMT -6
I've got the brown and green duck canvas on order.
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Post by quick on Nov 14, 2014 23:03:31 GMT -6
brown duck and japan caramel on the way  american khaki in the stock store atm. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 14, 2014 23:07:47 GMT -6
what sizes and fits are you guys running with? I wear a 33 slim in the denim, picked up 34 slim for the graphite, and on the caramel I've gone to a 34 straight to adjust the leg feel. I never measured them, but they just feel a lot more snug through the leg, and it doesn't behave the same way as denim. I'm thinking I'll probably regret the "paddle legs" look that I feel I get with the straights, but I figure if I need to get them tapered slightly or slimmed a bit that it'll be pretty simple since they're not selvedge.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 23:25:13 GMT -6
Stuck with denim size (31 slim) for the browns. Currently have the greens sitting at 31 straight, but may change it back to slim.
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Post by quick on Nov 14, 2014 23:43:21 GMT -6
35 slim in the denim (34 slim works too), and 34 slim in the chinos per Cody's recommendation.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 15, 2014 0:48:05 GMT -6
Interesting. I'm curious to know if you guys have a different experience than I have so far. The chambray pocket lining and waistband liner is really nice, though, takes these up to a whole new level.
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Post by troyh on Nov 15, 2014 6:45:04 GMT -6
I wear a 36 slim jean, most of the time it's fine, sometimes they sew up too tight through the calves.
The 36 slim chino was much too slim. I could fit into them, but they hugged my calves really tightly--they looked terrible. I swapped for a 36 straight, and it's much better.
I think, by and large, the chinos were sewing up small.
I'd really rethink the sizing down on the chinos advice from Cody, seems strange since I know they had a ton of returns because they were so tight. If nothing else, I'd size up or go from slim to straight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 11:11:20 GMT -6
i'm torn because not everyone had the same experience. i do think some went out on spec, which is actually a bit less slim according to the fit guide. i'm hoping (silly perhaps?) that any mis-sewing from the initial run has been taken care of and these runs will arrive to spec...if they do it should work well for me.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 15, 2014 11:15:06 GMT -6
Well, the selvedge have dropped, but at $145 I don't know if I can do it. I think the J Crew selvedge chinos are about 180. Also, they state that at 9.5oz this is the heaviest twill they've offered, but the military in the store right next to them is 10.5oz. The copy-writer is starting to forget stuff.  |
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Post by Ambassador on Nov 15, 2014 12:26:53 GMT -6
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Post by davelewis on Nov 15, 2014 12:45:20 GMT -6
I wear a 36 slim jean, most of the time it's fine, sometimes they sew up too tight through the calves. The 36 slim chino was much too slim. I could fit into them, but they hugged my calves really tightly--they looked terrible. I swapped for a 36 straight, and it's much better. I think, by and large, the chinos were sewing up small. I'd really rethink the sizing down on the chinos advice from Cody, seems strange since I know they had a ton of returns because they were so tight. If nothing else, I'd size up or go from slim to straight. You don't want to size down on Gustin chinos unless you have toothpicks for legs. I haden't heard that Cody advised sizing down, but that just seems bizarre to me. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 15, 2014 12:46:26 GMT -6
Are those the Caramel? My graphite is similar regarding the label, but I hadn't noticed it as my label is a good 1" or so toward the fly on mine. I hadn't though to look, but I'm a little bit surprised these aren't being sewn on to the pocket-bag prior to the pocket bag being sewn on to the twill. As a frame of reference, you can see the blue thread cut across the chambray under the G onn mine, where on yours it appears to go under the S.  |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 15, 2014 12:53:04 GMT -6
also, Ambassador, I'm curious. On the fly, the inner top button looks fairly unused, I'm wondering if you have the same issue of that button being just about unusable when you've actually got them on. I don't have to pull at all to get the "outside button" done, so it's not that they're too tight, it's almost like there's not enough play in either the button or the button hole and I can't get that one done (or more importantly undone readily enough) so I just go without it. |
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Post by efrenlopez on Nov 15, 2014 13:03:29 GMT -6
Judging by the first run, size up on the Chinos, at least for the slim fits. I have the graphite, the navy, and the Japan Caramel. They are all too tight on me. I need 38. The material is beautiful though. It's just near impossible to find 38's on the resale market. It so happens 90% of you jerks are in shape. I have a gut.
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Post by davelewis on Nov 15, 2014 13:08:37 GMT -6
also, Ambassador, I'm curious. On the fly, the inner top button looks fairly unused, I'm wondering if you have the same issue of that button being just about unusable when you've actually got them on. I don't have to pull at all to get the "outside button" done, so it's not that they're too tight, it's almost like there's not enough play in either the button or the button hole and I can't get that one done (or more importantly undone readily enough) so I just go without it. I found that top inside button to be a little tricky at first, but it doesn't take long for it to loosen up, and break in, and it just seems natural now. I also think its actually a good detail, as it evens out the stress pulling on the waistband, and makes the front, and fly lay flat, and evenly, and you don't get that pucker that you might see in a lesser made chino. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 13:16:54 GMT -6
I posted a pretty detailed review on the Gustin board with pics when my brown duck chinos came in. I just popped over to there to copy the text and repost it here and it seems the Chino thread over there has been clipped to 5 pages. My review was on page 8 or so if I remember. Oh well. In short, I wear 32 slim in G jeans, I buy them a bit tight assuming about an inch of stretch in the waist. I went 32 slim in the chinos because the waist is sized a bit larger than the denim and I pretty much hate loose fitting pants. My chinos came in bang on to the G specs, many others were not so lucky but that was the problematic first run of chinos so who knows where the sizing will come in on the new runs. I've had them hemmed since the pictures and I really like them. My one minor complaint is that the button slots are undersized for the button size so taking them on and off is a bit tedious after one gets used to the simplicity of ripping a denim fly open in one swoop. Pics imgur.com/a/wK8oO |
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Post by davelewis on Nov 15, 2014 13:25:07 GMT -6
I didn't order any of the first couple runs of the graphites, or lights, but waited for the Japanese twill to hit. The olives, came in per spec, but seemed small at first. I know now that it was because I wasn't used to such a fitted chino, and it took a little time to get used to. I've grown to like it, and the fit is very stylish. I received the Caramels yesterday, after a 5 month wait, so good to finally get them in hand. The fit is exactly like the Olives, so I didn't bother to measure them. I have to say that I think Gustin hit this one out of the park, as the Caramel is a very rich colored brown that I really like, and I can't find any flaws. Good job G
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Post by Ambassador on Nov 15, 2014 13:34:20 GMT -6
It's duck brown (click on photo to see hi-res). My pair from the stock and they are not good: top block kinda true to specs, but from tight it's tapered like slims. They sitting tighter then jeans, good for posing, but no more (imho), so if I'll try with another pair, I'll choose 2 sizes bigger. Top inside button not tricky, but unnecessary.  |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 15, 2014 13:37:37 GMT -6
I didn't order any of the first couple runs of the graphites, or lights, but waited for the Japanese twill to hit. The olives, came in per spec, but seemed small at first. I know now that it was because I wasn't used to such a fitted chino, and it took a little time to get used to. I've grown to like it, and the fit is very stylish. I received the Caramels yesterday, after a 5 month wait, so good to finally get them in hand. The fit is exactly like the Olives, so I didn't bother to measure them. I have to say that I think Gustin hit this one out of the park, as the Caramel is a very rich colored brown that I really like, and I can't find any flaws. Good job G I was so bummed when I missed the first run, but it turns out that I'm not going to be waiting much longer for the second run to deliver. Gustin doesn't really have to tell anyone, but it'd be nice to know what resulted in the 5 month wait on those, just from a "person curious about manufacturing" perspective. |
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Post by Ambassador on Nov 15, 2014 13:41:41 GMT -6
I received the Caramels yesterday, after a 5 month wait, so good to finally get them in hand. The fit is exactly like the Olives, so I didn't bother to measure them. I have to say that I think Gustin hit this one out of the park, as the Caramel is a very rich colored brown that I really like, and I can't find any flaws. Good job G Some photos will be good |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 14:35:30 GMT -6
I posted a pretty detailed review on the Gustin board with pics when my brown duck chinos came in. I just popped over to there to copy the text and repost it here and it seems the Chino thread over there has been clipped to 5 pages. My review was on page 8 or so if I remember. Oh well. In short, I wear 32 slim in G jeans, I buy them a bit tight assuming about an inch of stretch in the waist. I went 32 slim in the chinos because the waist is sized a bit larger than the denim and I pretty much hate loose fitting pants. My chinos came in bang on to the G specs, many others were not so lucky but that was the problematic first run of chinos so who knows where the sizing will come in on the new runs. I've had them hemmed since the pictures and I really like them. My one minor complaint is that the button slots are undersized for the button size so taking them on and off is a bit tedious after one gets used to the simplicity of ripping a denim fly open in one swoop. Pics imgur.com/a/wK8oO @stevekas your review text is still posted, but it's now somehow on pg 2. i'll paste it here...just let me know if you'd like me to remove it Just got my Brown Duck Gustin Chinos today. Campaign here....https://www.weargustin.com/store/715 (for you TL/DR guys....link to pics at the bottom) Size vs Fit Guide - So far these are the closest measurements of any Gustin product I've received when compared to the fit guide. Mine are 32 slim and are at worst within about 1/10th of an inch by my measurements at each point. in the fit guide. Waist is dead on at 33 inches (per fit guide). I've worked in textiles, these are sewn well and hit the mark for good production/QC. My Gustin denim has been a bit less consistent, to the tight side, but due to stretch during break in and my preference for minimal washing, it's not been a huge issue. Fit on me: I love these. The fit is exactly what I was hoping for, again, best so far. This is good because you can't rely on stretch to make these things work, they get washed and worn (at least that's how I do canvas pants). I was looking for a fit similar to Rouge Territory RK canvas trousers, and these deliver at about half the cost - and a bit of a wait  General Construction: Again great, with one caveat (detailed below). The chambray pocket bags and lining are top notch and really take these over the top for me. The one issue I have is the sizing of the button slots in the fly relative to the buttons. I'm not sure if it's an alignment issue or a sizing issue actually, but the smaller fly buttons are a bit of a pain to button and unbutton. It's not a big deal, just nowhere near as "subliminally easy" as a pair of denim. Still, it's miles better than a zipper fly. General Comments - While I dress all over the map depending on the circumstance (denim with a t shirt all the way to suit and tie) - I dislike dockers, Jcrew chinos etc. The standard, twill "office guy" pants. I know they're more versatile than that and I'm not casting aspersions at anyones style, just for me, they aren't a go to style of trousers. I like the cut at times but the fabric just isn't my cup of tea. These are a different flavor altogether as a result of the canvas fabric used. It's a rougher, more textured and interesting fabric than twill IMHO. I've got a pic included in the link below that shows these pants next to a standard twill chino and one half of my favorite pair of Chuck Taylors. Check the Gustin fabric, the texture is like the Chuck Taylor texture, much more depth than a twill trouser. Fit pics (and some partial tat pics for you ink fans lol) imgur.com/a/wK8oO |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 14:51:50 GMT -6
Thanks David! I'm not running at full output on this fine Saturday morning after a good Friday night. Appreciate the copy/paste help.
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Post by pleegray on Nov 20, 2014 22:38:53 GMT -6
I got Japan Caramel in 32 straight - The specs are dead on. I wear 32 straight in jeans as well. However, if I get another pair of chinos, I will go to 33 straight and then just take the waist in 1". These won't stretch like jeans and I'd actually prefer to have my chinos just a hair looser than jeans.
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