Lawless Reviews

Welcome indigobryce, I'm glad you can answer some of our questions and plus to understand what's happening in LD&CO.

Do you know why they don't answer to our e-mails about refund or any other questions ? Because I got a shipping notice mail 2 weeks ago without a tracking number and I still doesn't received my jeans, that's quite strange for me...

Moreover what about the orders which are out of stock (like the Niphon Menpu Brown weft) ?

Thanks for sharing with us.

Simple answer is that Kahla was way too overwhelmed with no help. Laura and Roman where sick of answering the phones so they pawned that job off to Kahla, shed spend nights, weekends, and all day emailing and calling many of you but she was only one person. Roman couldnt afford to bring on any help for her. Even when I was cutting I was often answering phones and questions. Many of you are upset so it would turn into a 25 minute phone convo and 16 of those a day plus all the paperwork and emails she had she just got burried in work from what I could tell. And that brown weft was gone a long while ago, like...january. You should have gotten an email to ask you for a replacement BUT a lot got lost in the cracks and paperwork mess. Kahla was just too overwhelmed to keep track of everything and had limited knowledge of the production side so answering questions was tough sometimes. 

I wonder if this back-up "mystery denim supplier" is the rumored copycat mills in China duplicating denims from other mills. 

Ok, thanks indigobryce. What I don't understand is why the banks or suppliers haven't pulled the rug from under him by now.

If he can't pay companies, wouldn't they get a court order or something to get hold of existing stock and equipment and sell them off to try to pay off debts? I'm surprised he's lasted this long without his assets being frozen to pay off creditors.

Creditors being banks and suppliers, not us innocent saps who gave him probably hundreds of thousands in free start-up capital.

damn...great info here indigobryce. Thanks again for showing up here and sharing.

I know it makes no difference now, but the 24oz thing was a joke from the get go by many of us. You're in a whole different ball park with denim at that weight and you would know this better than me indigobryce, but did he even have sewers that were competent enough to work with denim that heavy even if the denim was ever made? ehh...none of this really matters at this point I guess.

I also want to thank orion23 (kahla) because with all of the information that is being brought to light by Sal, Bryce, and Kahla herself I now know that if it was not for her I would have been screwed out of three of my shirts. Kahla you may not remember but I had three shirts made that I ordered in a size L, all three shirts were sent to me sewn up as XL's and they even had XL tags on them with the X blacked out with a sharpie. Someone apparently thought I wouldn't notice, well I did.

I dealt with Kahla on this whole issue and I sent the three shirts back with hand written notes on each shirt with instructions on what needed to be done to have them fixed. Kahal made regular contact with me via phone on this issue (calling when she received my shirts back with my notes to review all of the notes with me over the phone to make sure she understood everything, etc...) Almost exactly two weeks later I received my three shirts back all sewn up to the correct size which I had initially ordered (Size L). Thank God Kahla was working there at the time because I truly believe that she was the reason for this getting handled so promptly for me. so out of the 8 items I ordered I have received 7 of them, thanks to her. The only item I am out for now is my KS shirt and I have no hopes of seeing that at all at this point.

Yes! You took the post right out my keyboard, Brent.

Amazing stuff.

I would guess he's trying to fix what he can, especially if he's planning to stay involved in the business. While we're wise to the BS, there's a lot of people who have received goods and probably have no idea about everything we've learned. 

Not only that, the denim is probably the only way he's allowed to hang out at the cafe racer club. 

again, showing how little regard he has for the customer and no understanding of providing the product you're selling. you can't offer (and take money for) heavyweight american denim made with supima cotton then turn around and send customers an unknown japanese fabric. of course anyone that would dispute this would be a hater and not understand what he's trying to do.

The writing on this wall has been here for some time, but the cover over it is finally off. Good riddance LD

This is from a redditor 

Thanks for joining, indigobryce

Your words above are exactly why jeans from companies like IH or Oni are worth the money if one is concerned about actually knowing what they get. I have Gustins as well and like them, but I have no illusions about everything they make being exactly what they say it is because I don't think THEY even know what half the stuff they buy really is. I used to work in the airbag industry years ago and more recently parachutes for spacecraft and military use about 5 years back. The textile industry is no place for the inexperienced, especially with Chinese copies and middle man suppliers who are selling product with poor, fake or nonexistent documentation. Sometimes the people who are duping you don't even know they've been duped.