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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 14:31:38 GMT -6
My two KS jeans came in on Saturday. Pair 1 are 18.5 oz Kuroki denim, Pair 2 are 9 oz waxed Turkish for my GF. I'm discussiong lead time at all here as that's been done to death in the other thread by me and others lol. Pair 1 Summary - No pics as these have been posted up by others already. It's a nice heavy denim though. Construction on these is very good from what I can see. Awesome sewing, seams are straight, no wandering, no hanging threads or any other flaws I could find. To be honest, these are put together as well as jeans costing a lot more. I ordered a 33 slim which at the time was the best fit based on the KS fit chart. This isn't really relevant to the current fit chart, but I will say LD hit the KS chart specs and these fit really well. The yoke of the jeans are even from side to side, legs are equal, inseam is right at the length I requested. Patch is heavy veg tan and well executed. My only issue with these is the rear pocket size. The rear pockets are too small, easily the smallest of any jean I have. It's not a deal killer, but if I ever order another pair of LD jeans, I'll spring for the custom pattern and bump up the pocket size. Verdict: I'll wear the shit out of these. It will take a while before they get into rotation but they're good pants, mang. Pair 2 Summary - These are waxed burgundy skinny stretch for my GF. Also no pics - will explain in the review. The fit on these was a tricky beast and my GF worked directly with Laura at LD on them last fall. We followed the LD way of measuring (which I helped with...that was a good day...ahem anyway...). So they came in and they're bang on in every spec except the rear rise is way too low, like a solid inch of crack showing (yes I like it but that's beside the point). The odd thing about these is that back in the KS days, the rear rise was not specified, it just fell out of all the other measurements so we couldn't ask for a higher back rise. This might be ok for some, but my girl has a supreme badonkadonkand well, these are made for those who are less blessed. She has a trim waist and thin legs so getting the proportions right is a tricky thing. So, no pics, none that I'm allowed to post anyway  ....I will say this though, I ordered a second pair off the site + a custom pattern because she liked the basic jean so much. They just don't fit. We'll get her measured up in a month or so during a trip to AZ. These are some sexy jeans though. Seriously. So in summary, even though the wait time sucked, the jeans are well made and we DID order another pair thanks to the KS discount we get. I'll likely wait to order any more jeans for myself until LD gets their lead time fixed or at least accurately predicted. Basically, company logistics are all over the map but in our case, the product came well made and as specified. |
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Post by DigDug on Feb 24, 2015 15:50:00 GMT -6
This is me Not Liking No Pics  |
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Post by jray on Feb 24, 2015 16:08:10 GMT -6
Stevekas - because I have respect for you as a fellow member of this community, I won't CRACK any jokes |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 24, 2015 18:03:26 GMT -6
I thought the girls liked the jeans with low rise!
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Post by Griffin on Feb 25, 2015 6:49:15 GMT -6
@stevekas could you possibly measure the jeans layed flat. Maybe they fit my GF  First of all, what is the waist size? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 11:22:02 GMT -6
@stevekas could you possibly measure the jeans layed flat. Maybe they fit my GF First of all, what is the waist size? Let me ask her what she wants to do with them.....I'll PM you if she wants to sell them |
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Post by ickes on Feb 26, 2015 16:17:17 GMT -6
Well @laura just called me regarding my order I have in for three shirts. She called to let me know that one of my shirts was cut with the wrong fabric and asked me if I would like to take it as is or have them re cut another shirt with the correct fabric. I ordered it in Kaihara Indigo but they accidentally cut it in IndigoxIndigo. I actually am kind of glad because I think I would prefer an IndigoxIndigo fabric over the Kaihara Indigo as I was kind of regretting that one anyways. She said she would send it out to me and if I still didn't like the IndigoxIndigo I can send it back and have them re cut another one. I thought this was awesome. It was very cool that she called and ran this by me and gave me the options and is willing to still take back the IndigoxIndigo shirt if I don't like it. She also said that the IndigoxIndigo with copper stitching and tiger eye snaps looks really sharp . So my three shirts are done and will be shipped out tomorrow. Fingers are crossed that the fit is good. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 16:29:19 GMT -6
Shows they actually do QC
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 16:30:08 GMT -6
Well @laura just called me regarding my order I have in for three shirts. She called to let me know that one of my shirts was cut with the wrong fabric and asked me if I would like to take it as is or have them re cut another shirt with the correct fabric. I ordered it in Kaihara Indigo but they accidentally cut it in IndigoxIndigo. I actually am kind of glad because I think I would prefer an IndigoxIndigo fabric over the Kaihara Indigo as I was kind of regretting that one anyways. She said she would send it out to me and if I still didn't like the IndigoxIndigo I can send it back and have them re cut another one. I thought this was awesome. It was very cool that she called and ran this by me and gave me the options and is willing to still take back the IndigoxIndigo shirt if I don't like it. She also said that the IndigoxIndigo with copper stitching and tiger eye snaps looks really sharp . So my three shirts are done and will be shipped out tomorrow. Fingers are crossed that the fit is good. Don't know why I keep have this question in mind when I read about members getting their shirts..... please tell me about the fit of the forearm of your shirt. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 16:32:46 GMT -6
Shows they actually do QC LOL.  |
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Post by Winterland on Feb 26, 2015 17:28:35 GMT -6
Well @laura just called me regarding my order I have in for three shirts. She called to let me know that one of my shirts was cut with the wrong fabric and asked me if I would like to take it as is or have them re cut another shirt with the correct fabric. I ordered it in Kaihara Indigo but they accidentally cut it in IndigoxIndigo. I actually am kind of glad because I think I would prefer an IndigoxIndigo fabric over the Kaihara Indigo as I was kind of regretting that one anyways. She said she would send it out to me and if I still didn't like the IndigoxIndigo I can send it back and have them re cut another one. I thought this was awesome. It was very cool that she called and ran this by me and gave me the options and is willing to still take back the IndigoxIndigo shirt if I don't like it. She also said that the IndigoxIndigo with copper stitching and tiger eye snaps looks really sharp . So my three shirts are done and will be shipped out tomorrow. Fingers are crossed that the fit is good. Is it the 10oz or 14oz? My Montana is the 14 and is super dark. Will look great with the copper and tiger eye. Close to mine except I have white stitching. |
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Post by ickes on Feb 26, 2015 17:40:02 GMT -6
Well @laura just called me regarding my order I have in for three shirts. She called to let me know that one of my shirts was cut with the wrong fabric and asked me if I would like to take it as is or have them re cut another shirt with the correct fabric. I ordered it in Kaihara Indigo but they accidentally cut it in IndigoxIndigo. I actually am kind of glad because I think I would prefer an IndigoxIndigo fabric over the Kaihara Indigo as I was kind of regretting that one anyways. She said she would send it out to me and if I still didn't like the IndigoxIndigo I can send it back and have them re cut another one. I thought this was awesome. It was very cool that she called and ran this by me and gave me the options and is willing to still take back the IndigoxIndigo shirt if I don't like it. She also said that the IndigoxIndigo with copper stitching and tiger eye snaps looks really sharp . So my three shirts are done and will be shipped out tomorrow. Fingers are crossed that the fit is good. Is it the 10oz or 14oz? My Montana is the 14 and is super dark. Will look great with the copper and tiger eye. Close to mine except I have white stitching. I'm not sure, Laura didn't say. Or if she did I didn't catch it. We shall see. |
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Post by ickes on Feb 26, 2015 17:45:43 GMT -6
@wils, will do. I am actually concerned about it too as others have mentioned that they are tight. My forearms in some of my TS shirts are too tight for me now so I am a tad concerned about the LDs. I'll let you know.
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Feb 26, 2015 17:52:32 GMT -6
Makes me glad to have arms on the wimpy side of the spectrum. Not really, I'm still depressed
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Post by jdtmn on Feb 27, 2015 17:52:36 GMT -6
Got my replacement KS pair today. About a 4 week turnaround time (expedited by Roman and Sal.). Very pleased with that. The jeans are great. Ended up getting the Okayama Standard like 15 oz Japanese orange selvedge. (Asked Sal to pick me out something cool given the KS broken weave black I backed wasn't available.) They fit great. I wear a 33 straight in Gustin. True measured 35" straight in Lawless. Really like them and look forward to breaking them in. All said and done, things came through great for my KS backing. Looking forward to my new site order and (fingers crossed if they're listening) lighter weight chambrays I'll order if they offer!
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Post by Derek G on Feb 28, 2015 1:29:16 GMT -6
Kayla called me the other day about my order #492 that recently hit the cutting table,2 pair of jeans. It seems that the roll of Kuroki black 2x1 twill got damaged and wasn't available. So she said I could pick another denim from the site. She was really helpful and nice...the poor girl seemed kinda nervous, like she expected me to give her all sorts of hell over it  Kinda bummed out about it, but shit happens. Seeing the warmer weather will be here soon (i hope) I picked the 10.5 oz Kaihara. So it seems that orders are going out. CS is there, and they really seem care about us, and are genuinely concerned about being behind and all. I just can't help but to feel kinda sorry for them. I really think they are doing the best they can right now. Btw...If anyone cares, theres been 395 orders in the last 10 days...how do i know? Heheheh I made 2 more orders...I just couldn't pass on the cone mills deal. The kickstarter discount and then 50% off that? There was no way I could resist...I ordered a little of everything a pair of jeans, chinos, shirt, and vest...If I get them by next winter, I'm all good Sal helped me out on my recent orders too. The vest was originally a type 3 trucker, it took a few days for him to respond, but he did, and in his usual way, was very helpful. He changed the order and got my store credit for the difference, so he's still there doing his thing. Lawless denim, I'm not only a spokesman, I'm also a client |
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Post by quick on Feb 28, 2015 1:34:56 GMT -6
its interesting that you say the kuroki black 2x1 twill was damaged.
I have an order for the same fabric.
Maybe they will call me soon, my order is #536.
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Post by Derek G on Feb 28, 2015 1:48:01 GMT -6
its interesting that you say the kuroki black 2x1 twill was damaged. I have an order for the same fabric. Maybe they will call me soon, my order is #536. Maybe in the next few weeks...maybe you won't get that call. I'm not sure how they work it, but my order was for jeans. If you have that fabric in a shirt or something else, maybe you'll get that denim. I'm sorta bummed...I really wanted that denim. One piece of advice if you do get the call....when she told me I could pick another denim, I just assumed she meant from the jeans section. I didn't think to ask if I could choose any denim on the site, like from the shirt or chino or vest/coat offerings. I hope you don't get the call |
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Post by jray on Feb 28, 2015 12:00:04 GMT -6
I spoke to Roman today and the black twill was damaged - I ordered it as well. I didn't get the call and i'm order 407. He's in LA Monday and letting me know what else I can choose - I asked for a heavier weight. Once he gets back to me, i'll post here.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 28, 2015 15:42:22 GMT -6
Well received my first pair of lawless denim.
1 x 18.5 oz. Kuroki Mills Indigo Selvedge Men's Jeans
(Fit: Straight Leg, Waist: 36, Inseam (inches): 31, Hardware: Copper, Thread Color: Egyptian Topez, Denim Tag: Eagle w/ Shield, Jeans Fly: Button Fly, Pocket Liner: Pink houndstooth Canvas, Chain-Stitch Hem: Single Chain-Stitch Hem)
For the record this is the same exact fabric as Gustin super heavies. Which is a good thing.
Waist sewed a tad small 17.5" so 35" instead of 36. This is fine for me becuase I have a smaller waist but bigger legs. Which is why I have a hard time getting my fit dialed in.
Construction is spot on. Not a huge fan of the triple topaz stitching on the inseam of the leg I like 1 or 2 lines better.
Inseam is 33.5" I wanted a 31" I assume they are accounting for shrinkage? either way in not too upset. Doesn't look bad stacks nicely.
The bad.....
Pocket bags are not pink houndstooth. They are just pink. Like a weird pink too.
The eagle patch is sweet but it's sewed in upside down. The eagle is on it's head.
Order was on 11/2/14 and received it today 2/28/15. Not horrible
Verdict:
For the price 50% off they are the best jeans I've bought bang for your buck. Small mistakes. Apparently Lawless has a problem with the hardware/accessories. My shirts snaps were different and my pocket bags are different. I would like some communication with changes. I guess this is why they are limited the customized offering makes sense.
Solid B+!
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Post by exophobe on Feb 28, 2015 16:13:48 GMT -6
It's here! Arlington, 8.5oz Japanese Dark Indigo Chambray, dark green stitching, aqua green snaps. Slim XL.  Craft: Shirt is great, fabric is crazy on the soft and thick axes. From the pic I see a little bit of bunching in the collar, and there is some slight stitching anomaly through there. It's not visible with the shirt on, and you have to look close and care to find it in the first place. No pocket lining -- I think they're determining whether or not they do this based on fabric weight. I'm not bummed about this as they would have been quite three dimensional with a canvas liner. Stitching is pretty darn straight, and you can only find a few minor issues with it if you get downright nit-picky, certainly nothing that stands out as a flaw. Fit: There have been many concerns about the forearm, and I have to say that I don't have any issues here, but I'm also not well-endowed in the forearm department. This fit is similar to most other shirts I have, only issue I can take with it is that the sleeves are maybe 1-2" too long for me, but it doesn't bother me at all. To put this simply, I'm not going to be requesting a sizing change for my other pending shirt order. Very happy with this shirt, looking forward to the next one. Once they're to a point where they aren't operating at such a backlog, I would not hesitate to recommend Lawless Denim for shirts, we'll see how it goes with the jeans here in (hopefully) the next couple weeks. |
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Post by exophobe on Feb 28, 2015 16:22:53 GMT -6
also, for the price, it almost feels like I stole it. a new button down shirt made in China sold at Target sells for the sale price I picked this up for from Lawless. They were selling this for way under market price when they initially offered their 50% off site launch sale, and now they appear to run $98, which is still a pretty good deal next to their competitors, wait times aside.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 19:19:02 GMT -6
Quality pieces, but the minor things wrong/missing is meh.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 28, 2015 19:37:21 GMT -6
Quality pieces, but the minor things wrong/missing is meh. You can say that again. Lawless makes some great pieces. Just not a fan of the tight forearms. @belopsky you won't be able to fit the guns in a regular sized shirt. |
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Post by bigblack on Feb 28, 2015 19:58:34 GMT -6
I must have puny forearms because I think the armholes on my shirt are too big. I even requested to have 1" tighter on my upcoming order
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....I will say this though, I ordered a second pair off the site + a custom pattern because she liked the basic jean so much. They just don't fit. We'll get her measured up in a month or so during a trip to AZ. These are some sexy jeans though. Seriously.
