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Post by Winterland on Jan 31, 2015 16:12:28 GMT -6
Can you give more detail of what you don't like about the fit? Being you waited this long you should contact Lawless and get things straightened out. A good test of customer service. Well besides the fact that the waists are smaller than I wanted and the inseams too short, the part I don't like about the fit is in the top block. It's strange because it feels to me as if there is hardly any difference in pitch from the back to front rise. when I have them on it feels as if the waist band sits at the same height (or level) all the way around my waist. Second, there seems to be a strange bulge in the seat of the jeans going on. Not necessarily a saggy ass look that you get when your posterior can't fill in your jeans, but more of a pointed bulge that sticks straight out right from the center of the rear. I contacted LD immediately about my KS jeans and I have never heard back. This was weeks ago when I first received them. Yes, it was only one attempt I admit, but at this point I'm kind of over it and don't feel like going through another 8-12 week wait minimum to try and fix it. Maybe Dirty_Denim can give you some help. I would think items that were made wrong, if that was the case, would be a priority and moved ahead of other orders. |
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Post by davelewis on Jan 31, 2015 16:33:56 GMT -6
I Gotta say this Chambray is Very nice! Has the look of a tough denim but not heavy. Tough enough to go to work but very movable. I'll be looking to get this shirt/fabric again. I hope LD starts sourcing Chambray's. With a 8-12+ week lead. They'll be just in time for Spring. Yea, the chambray is nice. I've been looking for quite some time for this heavy of chambray, as I've only seen it offered by Iron Heart, but for much more money. |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 31, 2015 18:50:51 GMT -6
DigDug - looks like you are wearing your fathers shirt. Same thing would have happened to me. One fit guide I was an XXL then I was a Large. Thankfully I caught it. Lots of hit and miss so far. I'm excited to get my shirt, should have shipped today, but a little hesitant it's gonna fit wonky.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:23:37 GMT -6
LOL  I just want that to show up again. It is the missing hand that kills me. That's a drag, though. Based on their sizing chart, I thought I would go on the safe side and do xxl rather too loose than too tight...maybe that was a mistake on my part. let us know how it all works out. and how come when ol' diggy posts before contacting the seller, everyone cool with it when mean ol' rex does it, everyone loses their minds? Maaaaaaaaaaan!  is ok, I still like yous guys. |
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Post by jeffrx on Jan 31, 2015 20:09:26 GMT -6
Jesus DigDug, your picture actually made my laugh. I needed it too. LOL
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 31, 2015 23:15:54 GMT -6
I'm with @rex. The missing hand is absolute f!@king gold. This is right up there with Vincent's shirt that had a stroke in terms of cracking me up every time I see the photo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 1:57:02 GMT -6
I contacted LD immediately about my KS jeans and I have never heard back. This was weeks ago when I first received them. Yes, it was only one attempt I admit, but at this point I'm kind of over it and don't feel like going through another 8-12 week wait minimum to try and fix it. Geez, you're nicer than I am. I'd make one more contact attempt before having the charges reversed on my CC , that sucks man. Sorry. Been close to doing a CC reverse a few times on my KS stuff since early January (which would be the first CC reverse in my life, I'm patient like a monk) but Dirty_Denim has been around again and I get hopeful when he pops up as info starts flowing again. Sal is busting his ass and is singlehandedly saving LD's customer service rep from being a joke here. I hope they appreciate him. |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 1, 2015 6:04:05 GMT -6
I think they should give Sal a raise and more hours.
Let's start our own brand. We can call it SS denim, by the people for the people. I'm sure we could pull it off.
I think lawless has some growing issues as a business but I think they will come through fine.
As for diggy's shirt. It's too big obviously and it's funny. I have complete faith Lawless with make it right same with Ickes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 18:16:17 GMT -6
First day wearing my Black x Black LD WS. Same great fit as the Tan x Tan. Note: donut buttons on a ws are great. They are very strong and secure, far more than snaps. But, my fingertips hurt...  Note: it's not as tight as it looks. It's layered over my IH thermal and an A-shirt. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 22:56:58 GMT -6
Continuation.....
This shirt SHOULD have been Black x Black.... It's actually Indigo x Indigo. No harm, no foul. I'm gonna fade the living shit out of it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 9:21:24 GMT -6
Yeah, that's awesome. I only hope my BlackXMurderXBlack shirt arrives sooner rather than later and fits.
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Feb 2, 2015 11:04:16 GMT -6
Not an apparel review, but the veg-tan tote I ordered for my wife just shipped. I'll post some thoughts and pics when we get it.
Laura is great, btw. I talked to her during the "ready to ship" sale and she got me squared away!
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Post by jdtmn on Feb 2, 2015 18:55:24 GMT -6
Got my old site ordered chambray today. Placed the order October 10. Order 11643. It was completed a few weeks ago but held to combine with a pending KS pair for my wife. I really like the shirt. It's excellent quality. I'm not one to do thread level reviews. Sal mentioned it was made with out selvedge gusset and chain stitch runoff. He gave me the option to wait for them to remake or take this delivery with assurance to make it right if I was dissatisfied at all. No need for that. I'm very satisfied. The selvedge detail on the inner sleeves will be cool if I do a roll. Plus I have another workshirt on order from the new site with selvedge gusset and runoff so I am set. I'm 6' 185 lbs and typically wear a 16.5 neck 35 sleeve dress shirt. The large slim fit is just right for me. Overall, this is a great item. My issue with Lawless has never been delays. It's been on sporadic customer communication and status. With Sal on board, this has definitely improved. Hoping it gets momentum and transfers to others there as well.     |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 2, 2015 20:54:17 GMT -6
Is that the 9.5oz chambray?
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Post by jdtmn on Feb 2, 2015 21:06:16 GMT -6
Is that the 9.5oz chambray? Yes. 9.5 oz Candiani selvedge chambray. Blue thread. Black buttons. Striped canvas pockets. |
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Post by mkeview on Feb 2, 2015 21:36:25 GMT -6
Looks hideous. Sell it to me.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 4, 2015 15:59:25 GMT -6
Well I received my first Lawless denim product ever.
Ordered 10/31/14 received today 2/4/15.
15.2oz cone selvedge denim western shirt.
Regular fit size large.
The denim:
The denim cloth is exactly what you would expect. Top notch cone denim 15.2oz but feels a bit heavier. Good amount of startch.
Construction:
Flawless as I can tell. Very good stitching.
Hardware:
Horrible. I ordered the shirt with black snaps but received I think tigers eye. I actually like the color and it matches the topaz thread but I didn't order them and I wanted black since I've seen a ton of IH shirts and that's what I like. The biggest issue with the snaps is well they suck and do not hold at all. My $10 shirt from lucky has better quality snaps. I put the shirt on and moved around bending, reaching and try kept popping off!
Fit:
Meh. Not the best but still good. Size large regular. Sewed up basically to the fit guide besides the arms. Way too long. Fit chart is 25.5" received 26.5" I'm built like a T. rex and they swallow my hands. Also the forearms and bicep area of the shirt is super slim. I have large forearms and good sized biceps from working out and they are very very so tight I can't move the sleeve up to button the cuff. Looks like cuffing the sleeve.
Misc:
Welp this is the weirdest part. I canceled this shirt order early November 11/13/14 and was refunded the purchase price on 11/14/14. I still have another order pending shirt/jean.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 16:05:47 GMT -6
Well I received my first Lawless denim product ever. Ordered 10/31/14 received today 2/4/15. 15.2oz cone selvedge denim western shirt. Regular fit size large. The denim: The denim cloth is exactly what you would expect. Top notch cone denim 15.2oz but feels a bit heavier. Good amount of startch. Construction: Flawless as I can tell. Very good stitching. Hardware: Horrible. I ordered the shirt with black snaps but received I think tigers eye. I actually like the color and it matches the topaz thread but I didn't order them and I wanted black since I've seen a ton of IH shirts and that's what I like. The biggest issue with the snaps is well they suck and do not hold at all. My $10 shirt from lucky has better quality snaps. I put the shirt on and moved around bending, reaching and try kept popping off! Fit: Meh. Not the best but still good. Size large regular. Sewed up basically to the fit guide besides the arms. Way too long. Fit chart is 25.5" received 26.5" I'm built like a T. rex and they swallow my hands. Also the forearms and bicep area of the shirt is super slim. I have large forearms and good sized biceps from working out and they are very very so tight I can't move the sleeve up to button the cuff. Looks like cuffing the sleeve. Misc: Welp this is the weirdest part. I canceled this shirt order early November 11/13/14 and was refunded the purchase price on 11/14/14. I still have another order pending shirt/jean. Free shirt? Good for you. My shirt fits perfect on me but the sleeves of my jacket are tight like how you describe yours. |
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 4, 2015 16:08:48 GMT -6
Sleeves are def too long. Even at 25.5" they would have been long. Kinda wanna wash the shirt to shrink them but nervous the arms will be too tight.
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Post by wdw on Feb 4, 2015 16:11:41 GMT -6
Disappointing about the snaps. I just ordered two shirts with tiger eye snaps and won't be at all happy if they keep popping open.
Does anyone else have this problem?
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Post by davelewis on Feb 4, 2015 16:24:53 GMT -6
Its odd that Brent's shirt came with tiger eye snaps, when he ordered black, and my shirt came with black snaps, when I ordered tiger eye. I like the look of them, but still, not what I ordered.
The snaps have worked OK, but if snapping the top one, it is not held by much, with the extra stiffness in the collar area.
I think they would be well served to use heavier snaps for shirts that are over 12oz, but they are fine with my 9.5 chambray.
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 4, 2015 16:42:54 GMT -6
Disappointing about the snaps. I just ordered two shirts with tiger eye snaps and won't be at all happy if they keep popping open. Does anyone else have this problem? Maybe it's because the shirt is very stiff? Maybe I'm fat? I donno. Basic movements pop it off. |
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Post by Winterland on Feb 4, 2015 16:52:44 GMT -6
Disappointing about the snaps. I just ordered two shirts with tiger eye snaps and won't be at all happy if they keep popping open. Does anyone else have this problem? Maybe it's because the shirt is very stiff? Maybe I'm fat? I donno. Basic movements pop it off. My shirt is 14oz and has never unpopped. Tiger eye I can even button the top button which is tight. I usually don't but it will stay. Unless they changed snap manufacturers? |
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Post by Winterland on Feb 4, 2015 16:57:25 GMT -6
Sleeves are def too long. Even at 25.5" they would have been long. Kinda wanna wash the shirt to shrink them but nervous the arms will be too tight. Remember the sleeves will shorten as they crease on thicker fabrics. Shrinkage will be minimal on the forearms etc but could be substantial on length of arms front/back as there is more fabric. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 16:58:49 GMT -6
Disappointing about the snaps. I just ordered two shirts with tiger eye snaps and won't be at all happy if they keep popping open. Does anyone else have this problem? Maybe it's because the shirt is very stiff? Maybe I'm fat? I donno. Basic movements pop it off. It's from all of those Kris Gethin workouts...you're hulking out. |
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