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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 20, 2015 20:24:24 GMT -6
What do you guys think of Freenote Cloth? I've never heard of them before and found them via Google looking for other waxed canvas jackets. The one posted above is their waxed canvas Riders Jacket, although I've seen it credited as a modern take on the ranch jacket. It looks pretty cool but it's $400 oh, and it's lined. Thoughts?
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Post by exophobe on Feb 20, 2015 20:43:53 GMT -6
What do you guys think of Freenote Cloth? I've never heard of them before and found them via Google looking for other waxed canvas jackets. The one posted above is their waxed canvas Riders Jacket, although I've seen it credited as a modern take on the ranch jacket. It looks pretty cool but it's $400 oh, and it's lined. Thoughts? I really like it. I don't $400 like it, but I like the waist pockets.
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Post by gaseousclay on Feb 20, 2015 21:26:27 GMT -6
Yeah, I like the simplicity of the design. But $400? Ouch. That's $100 more than Filson's lined soy wax cruiser. Huckberry has it for around $330, but that's still a lotta ducats
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 14:31:54 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Mar 8, 2015 23:34:55 GMT -6
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 9, 2015 7:19:04 GMT -6
Dig what size pointer brand do you wear?
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Post by DigDug on Mar 9, 2015 11:14:01 GMT -6
Dig what size pointer brand do you wear? I like the Large. (I wear a Gustin XL oxford) You can get some shrink in my experience with the pointer brand. The dry duck shrunk 1/2 a size when I waxed it and used a heat gun.
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 9, 2015 12:11:40 GMT -6
Awesome thanks.
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 12, 2015 19:22:32 GMT -6
Dig what size pointer brand do you wear? I like the Large. (I wear a Gustin XL oxford) You can get some shrink in my experience with the pointer brand. The dry duck shrunk 1/2 a size when I waxed it and used a heat gun. I'm actually curious if shrinkage will occur without the use of a heat gun. Gustin posted a pic on their Instagram awhile back of someone using Otterwax on their trucker and it looked pretty cool. My guess is the person who did it used their fingers to rub the wax in and then let it set by hanging it in the sun. It feels as though my trucker already needs a re waxing even though I've only worn it a handful of times. I wonder if the wax dried out since I had it hanging in my closet for the last 4 months?
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Post by DigDug on Mar 12, 2015 20:15:55 GMT -6
I like the Large. (I wear a Gustin XL oxford) You can get some shrink in my experience with the pointer brand. The dry duck shrunk 1/2 a size when I waxed it and used a heat gun. I'm actually curious if shrinkage will occur without the use of a heat gun. Gustin posted a pic on their Instagram awhile back of someone using Otterwax on their trucker and it looked pretty cool. My guess is the person who did it used their fingers to rub the wax in and then let it set by hanging it in the sun. It feels as though my trucker already needs a re waxing even though I've only worn it a handful of times. I wonder if the wax dried out since I had it hanging in my closet for the last 4 months? I wouldn't say they can dry out. If you use the Filson wax, you can rub it on easy then hang in the sun. Of I remember correctly the filson wax almost melts in your hand. The OtterWax is much more stiff. There's the Bar that you rub on or there's the stuff I used (think it's called Otterwax "Fabric Dressing"). This stuff you melt the wax in a can in boiling water. Brush it on (very heavy, penetrates all the way through the fabric). Then I used a heat gun to spread it a bit more even. If there was extra I used a stiff brush and brushed it off. Worked good for a fabric that was not treated before. If it's been treated before (like a Gustin) I'd use the otterwax bar or filson. The shrink I got I think was from the Hot wax.
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 13, 2015 6:14:03 GMT -6
I'm actually curious if shrinkage will occur without the use of a heat gun. Gustin posted a pic on their Instagram awhile back of someone using Otterwax on their trucker and it looked pretty cool. My guess is the person who did it used their fingers to rub the wax in and then let it set by hanging it in the sun. It feels as though my trucker already needs a re waxing even though I've only worn it a handful of times. I wonder if the wax dried out since I had it hanging in my closet for the last 4 months? I wouldn't say they can dry out. If you use the Filson wax, you can rub it on easy then hang in the sun. Of I remember correctly the filson wax almost melts in your hand. The OtterWax is much more stiff. There's the Bar that you rub on or there's the stuff I used (think it's called Otterwax "Fabric Dressing"). This stuff you melt the wax in a can in boiling water. Brush it on (very heavy, penetrates all the way through the fabric). Then I used a heat gun to spread it a bit more even. If there was extra I used a stiff brush and brushed it off. Worked good for a fabric that was not treated before. If it's been treated before (like a Gustin) I'd use the otterwax bar or filson. The shrink I got I think was from the Hot wax. I hesitate to use my tin of Filson wax on my G trucker, only because it's parrafin based. I don't know if there's any truth to the idea of only using proprietary blend wax on garments. plus, I only have a small tin of Filson wax that came with my tin cloth short cruiser....it would hardly be enough to wax the entire coat. I have a small bar of Otterwax that I was meaning to test out on a small canvas bag I had laying around, but I can't find the bag so the wax is just sitting. But I agree, i'll use the Otterwax on my G trucker when the time comes, but i'll have to buy a bigger bar. here's a pic of the G trucker with Otterwax:
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Post by colerussell on Mar 13, 2015 21:47:47 GMT -6
I wouldn't say they can dry out. If you use the Filson wax, you can rub it on easy then hang in the sun. Of I remember correctly the filson wax almost melts in your hand. The OtterWax is much more stiff. There's the Bar that you rub on or there's the stuff I used (think it's called Otterwax "Fabric Dressing"). This stuff you melt the wax in a can in boiling water. Brush it on (very heavy, penetrates all the way through the fabric). Then I used a heat gun to spread it a bit more even. If there was extra I used a stiff brush and brushed it off. Worked good for a fabric that was not treated before. If it's been treated before (like a Gustin) I'd use the otterwax bar or filson. The shrink I got I think was from the Hot wax. I hesitate to use my tin of Filson wax on my G trucker, only because it's parrafin based. I don't know if there's any truth to the idea of only using proprietary blend wax on garments. plus, I only have a small tin of Filson wax that came with my tin cloth short cruiser....it would hardly be enough to wax the entire coat. I have a small bar of Otterwax that I was meaning to test out on a small canvas bag I had laying around, but I can't find the bag so the wax is just sitting. But I agree, i'll use the Otterwax on my G trucker when the time comes, but i'll have to buy a bigger bar. here's a pic of the G trucker with Otterwax: Holy hell. That's beautiful.
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Post by bjorn on Mar 14, 2015 10:44:29 GMT -6
Looks a little overdone, might be a problem later transferring to everything around it. I like nikwax spray on wax for carefree application. But it doesn't get as nicely uneven...
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Post by davelewis on Mar 14, 2015 11:30:34 GMT -6
I wouldn't say they can dry out. If you use the Filson wax, you can rub it on easy then hang in the sun. Of I remember correctly the filson wax almost melts in your hand. The OtterWax is much more stiff. There's the Bar that you rub on or there's the stuff I used (think it's called Otterwax "Fabric Dressing"). This stuff you melt the wax in a can in boiling water. Brush it on (very heavy, penetrates all the way through the fabric). Then I used a heat gun to spread it a bit more even. If there was extra I used a stiff brush and brushed it off. Worked good for a fabric that was not treated before. If it's been treated before (like a Gustin) I'd use the otterwax bar or filson. The shrink I got I think was from the Hot wax. I hesitate to use my tin of Filson wax on my G trucker, only because it's parrafin based. I don't know if there's any truth to the idea of only using proprietary blend wax on garments. plus, I only have a small tin of Filson wax that came with my tin cloth short cruiser....it would hardly be enough to wax the entire coat. I have a small bar of Otterwax that I was meaning to test out on a small canvas bag I had laying around, but I can't find the bag so the wax is just sitting. But I agree, i'll use the Otterwax on my G trucker when the time comes, but i'll have to buy a bigger bar. here's a pic of the G trucker with Otterwax: I don't care much for the wax that Filson sells anymore. It used to be a much more robust formula, but the current stuff is much softer, and plain doesn't work as well, and the fact that they make you buy a little tin which doesn't go far. I found an old container of Outback wax that was probably 20 years old, that has minerals in it, and used that the last time I rewaxed my Filson Tin Cruiser, and it didn't make one bit of difference to the jacket, other than it is more water resistent, and stays on a lot better.
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 14, 2015 19:52:56 GMT -6
Looks a little overdone, might be a problem later transferring to everything around it. I like nikwax spray on wax for carefree application. But it doesn't get as nicely uneven... That's the nature of the wax after having been worked into the fabric. Keep in mind that the guy who did this took this pic right after so it's fresh. I like it because it looks like an aged leather coat. The other part I like about Otterwax is that it's all natural, unlike Filson's formula which is parafin based. I don't think that matters to the coat much but by all accounts Otterwax is very effective. My only problem with Filson's wax, as has already been pointed out, is that they only sell them in small tins. This to me is a ploy simply because it's only meant for touch up work and not meant for a full rewax job. At least with Otterwax you can rewax an entire coat with one of their large bars. For that reason alone I would not buy Filson wax. It almost seems shameful that companies like Filson, and a few others only seem to produce/sell their own proprietary waxes in such small quantities. If you're going to sell fabric wax for your line of jackets at least give customers the option of buying bigger sizes rather than nickel and diming us with small tins of touch up wax *rant over*
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 14, 2015 19:56:55 GMT -6
here's a pic of the G trucker with Otterwax: Holy hell. That's beautiful. Agreed. If seeing this pic doesn't make you want to own a waxed trucker I don't know what will.
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 15, 2015 5:27:49 GMT -6
Just sold my barbour sapper. Lightweight jacket not waxed version on eBay. Bought it as a flip. Nice jacket but just wasn't worth the money. Bought $149 sold $194.
Currently looking for a barbour sapper waxed in medium or a filson explorer in medium.
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Post by Griffin on Mar 15, 2015 12:36:44 GMT -6
My G trucker also "lost the wax" very quickly. I dont mind since its nice to not wax evrything I touch, but it did look like a non-waxed garment very quickly, and cosmetically its not as nice.
I have put some patina on it tho so it makes up for it some....but yeah..
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 15, 2015 20:13:57 GMT -6
My G trucker also "lost the wax" very quickly. I dont mind since its nice to not wax evrything I touch, but it did look like a non-waxed garment very quickly, and cosmetically its not as nice. I have put some patina on it tho so it makes up for it some....but yeah.. I'm curious what sort of waxed cotton Gustin uses for their products. Martexin waxed cotton? I'm assuming they source their fabric pre-waxed. But then again, my guess is that's the nature of waxed cotton and that it loses its water resistance over time or if exposed to dry conditions. When I got my Filson tin cloth short cruiser it almost felt moist to the touch. I've hardly worn my Filson mainly because I want to break in my G trucker first and put some miles on it. My G trucker feels as though it too lost the wax, but I'm gonna wait a little while before hitting it with Otterwax
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 16, 2015 12:16:07 GMT -6
any of you own the Rogue Territory Ridgeline waxed canvas jacket? I need another waxed canvas jacket like I need another hole in my head, but it's still pretty darned cool looking. I'm curious how it fits and what the overall quality is like.
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Post by gaseousclay on Mar 23, 2015 7:58:24 GMT -6
I posted a poll on Massdrop for the Freenote Cloth waxed canvas rider's jacket and the Rogue Territory waxed canvas Ridgeline jacket. I'm not expecting much interest from anyone but they're up in case you want to vote. vote now
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Post by gsg on Jul 18, 2015 12:59:29 GMT -6
@ Gaseousclay, which of your jackets would you say has a heavier-weight fabric, Gustin or Filson? I am debating between these two and would like to pick the sturdiest canvas. Thanks!
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Post by exophobe on Jul 18, 2015 16:36:14 GMT -6
@ Gaseousclay, which of your jackets would you say has a heavier-weight fabric, Gustin or Filson? I am debating between these two and would like to pick the sturdiest canvas. Thanks! If I remember correctly, he was saying the Gustin is a heavier canvas. That was either here or on styleforum. Am I remembering right, gaseousclay?
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Post by gsg on Jul 18, 2015 16:53:49 GMT -6
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Post by exophobe on Jul 18, 2015 17:10:37 GMT -6
yeah, I went ahead and actually flagged him for you, so he should be able to chime in. This is quoted from his post over at styleforum: The G trucker is fitted, the Filson isn't. My short cruiser is longer in the waist & sleeves and has more wiggle room in the body for layering. But, Filson also uses a thinner waxed canvas, compared to Gustin's thicker canvas. I like them both
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