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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 20:09:33 GMT -6
devastitis i don't disagree re: their timing or even the current perceived value of their goods. i guess they're just in a lose/lose situation...there's not really much they can do to make a large chunk of the customer base happy (myself included)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 20:14:20 GMT -6
devastitis i don't disagree re: their timing or even the current perceived value of their goods. i guess they're just in a lose/lose situation...there's not really much they can do to make a large chunk of the customer base happy (myself included) Yeah, I agree. There really isn't much, besides scrapping all the unhappy customers, and then bringing in new customers after the orders are all completed and they have factories set up. Then they can do another Kickstarter or something, and say they fired all the bad apples and have new management in place, like they did with the last Kickstarter, and have said they've done in Roman's last visit here. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 20:24:19 GMT -6
The price rise may be a step towards limiting new orders so they can make a dent in the backlog My thoughts exactly. Unless they're swimming in income, I don't see how they can limit new orders, even if they really need to. They have big plans, and big plans require big money while they're in the works, and a steady stream of income to help finance their current operations. |
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Post by wisdom on Mar 30, 2015 1:26:39 GMT -6
Unless they're swimming in income, I don't see how they can limit new orders, even if they really need to. They have big plans, and big plans require big money while they're in the works, and a steady stream of income to help finance their current operations. If they're relying on income to support current expenses, or obligations, they're already insolvent.. I don't think this is the case, or how could they possibly get approved for either leases on new buildings, loans, or any credit to pay for materials, equipment, or employees? Limiting new orders is a good idea, but just think they should announce that they aren't taking new orders until the backlog is worked down to a certain level. In my estimation, the price increase is a way to offset the ubiquitous discounts out there. They're trying to rebuild margin. |
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Post by julian on Mar 30, 2015 2:18:19 GMT -6
The price they charged in their early sales might have been low enough to deal with their crazy wait times. Not even close. With shipping, I paid $64.50 for each of my two orders. Had I known at the time I'd be sitting here at the start of week 21 since placing my order - with absolutely no sign the first pair are even on the horizon for shipping - there is categorically no way I'd have placed that order. My total exposure works out to £86. Not a huge amount of money, but enough to have bought a pair of decent trainers which I could have been enjoying over the last 5 months. 5 months. To make one pair of jeans. It's beyond laughable. |
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Mar 30, 2015 4:44:27 GMT -6
The price they charged in their early sales might have been low enough to deal with their crazy wait times. Not even close. With shipping, I paid $64.50 for each of my two orders. Had I known at the time I'd be sitting here at the start of week 21 since placing my order - with absolutely no sign the first pair are even on the horizon for shipping - there is categorically no way I'd have placed that order. My total exposure works out to £86. Not a huge amount of money, but enough to have bought a pair of decent trainers which I could have been enjoying over the last 5 months. 5 months. To make one pair of jeans. It's beyond laughable. quoted for truth. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 5:33:54 GMT -6
The price they charged in their early sales might have been low enough to deal with their crazy wait times. Not even close. With shipping, I paid $64.50 for each of my two orders. Had I known at the time I'd be sitting here at the start of week 21 since placing my order - with absolutely no sign the first pair are even on the horizon for shipping - there is categorically no way I'd have placed that order. My total exposure works out to £86. Not a huge amount of money, but enough to have bought a pair of decent trainers which I could have been enjoying over the last 5 months. 5 months. To make one pair of jeans. It's beyond laughable. $64 including international shipping? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 5:42:35 GMT -6
Unless they're swimming in income, I don't see how they can limit new orders, even if they really need to. They have big plans, and big plans require big money while they're in the works, and a steady stream of income to help finance their current operations. If they're relying on income to support current expenses, or obligations, they're already insolvent.. I don't think this is the case, or how could they possibly get approved for either leases on new buildings, loans, or any credit to pay for materials, equipment, or employees? Limiting new orders is a good idea, but just think they should announce that they aren't taking new orders until the backlog is worked down to a certain level. In my estimation, the price increase is a way to offset the ubiquitous discounts out there. They're trying to rebuild margin. in the same token, I don't see how creditors will offer loans and credit to a company without a steady stream of income. Just having cash in the bank from KS or the early sales wouldn't be enough. Which is why the price increases make little sense. They need to bring in new customers, but only the KS backers get 50% off, so non KS customers have to pay the full inflated price? This can only serve to scare away potential customers. |
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Post by julian on Mar 30, 2015 6:00:05 GMT -6
$64 including international shipping? Yup, $39 for the jeans, $25 for shipping to the UK. Of course, until the day they ship them, the $25 really is just a completely free loan. Probably why they appear to have been less keen to refund overseas customers. |
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Post by wdw on Mar 30, 2015 6:37:36 GMT -6
julian, as long as your original order value was at least £100, even if you have had a partial refund you can apply for a refund of the outstanding amount under Section 75. My 5 November order has no problem with timescale. I gather using Section 75 means you get a refund within a couple of days and then the bank mediates as to who's telling the truth. The offending company would have to jump through hoops to get that money back, so the money is basically yours again.
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Post by julian on Mar 30, 2015 7:47:10 GMT -6
julian, as long as your original order value was at least £100, even if you have had a partial refund you can apply for a refund of the outstanding amount under Section 75. My 5 November order has no problem with timescale. It wasn't. I placed two orders, two days apart, for $64 each order. I've got no intention of asking for a refund. |
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Post by pdxvegan on Mar 31, 2015 11:59:09 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 12:03:10 GMT -6
Only a 2 week shipping date! Maybe that's why there's a long backlog? Every order was put on hold to complete these for Huckberry? |
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Post by 98superglide on Apr 1, 2015 5:17:47 GMT -6
Only a 2 week shipping date! Maybe that's why there's a long backlog? Every order was put on hold to complete these for Huckberry? Unless these are pre made in generic sizing, it's just bloody irresponsible. How on earth can anyone here order from these clowns with any confidence? |
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Post by bugula on Apr 1, 2015 8:59:51 GMT -6
wow. just wow.
this is either why they've been spread so thin or is the extreme definition of ADD.
i can't imagine huckberry went into business with them without guarantees in place.
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Apr 1, 2015 11:31:05 GMT -6
wow. just wow. this is either why they've been spread so thin or is the extreme definition of ADD. i can't imagine huckberry went into business with them. [Fixed] |
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Post by chrisdoth on Apr 1, 2015 17:10:59 GMT -6
I don't anticipate buying any anything from LD anytime in the future, but find it strange how many people commented on how their low prices were contributing to the backlog and overall cheapening the brand. Now the prices have gone up (no doubt with 50% off on the heels), and the commentary is also negative. Can't have it both ways. I think those comments were made several months ago though when the brand had more credibility though to be fair. |
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Post by jdtmn on May 14, 2015 15:57:09 GMT -6
RE: posting on IG: Kids raw denim??? As fast as kids outgrow clothes, I can't even imagine (especially if custom ordered)
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 15:59:40 GMT -6
RE: posting on IG: Kids raw denim??? As fast as kids outgrow clothes, I can't even imagine (especially if custom ordered) By the time they receive their order, their kid will already have outgrown them. |
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Post by DigDug on May 14, 2015 16:09:54 GMT -6
RE: posting on IG: Kids raw denim??? As fast as kids outgrow clothes, I can't even imagine (especially if custom ordered) By the time they receive their order, their kid will already have outgrown them. At $35 - 50% off not bad. Could be a cool gift for someone having a baby. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 16:52:29 GMT -6
As soon as kids sizes are available, I'm ordering raws for my mini me. I hope they make jackets too.
I'm rooting for LD still, guys. I want them to make it, and I think they will.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2015 17:13:02 GMT -6
moved to rtw thread.
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Post by matt on Jun 22, 2015 22:25:34 GMT -6
Blowing some of the dust off of this thread. It looks like LD is taking their game right to Ciano with two new(er) offerings of 23 oz. Black over Black and 23 oz. Indigo over white - both from Japan - it appears that the only real difference is the ID (pink for CF, red for LD)...and wait time and price. Black over BlackIndigo 23 is sold out. Note: this is not an endorsement but a morbid curiosity...like the accident I drove past over the weekend. |
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