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Post by stinky on Nov 7, 2014 13:14:32 GMT -6
Absolutely no acknowledgement of the plaid alignment issues even though a good portion of their own pictures on the product pages have the same flaws. Frankly, I think I've seen more pictures with crooked plaid along the placket than I have straight ones.
I lust after some of those shirts, but until someone reaches out to me and says "we guarantee that you will get a shirt with the plaid evenly aligned," I'm not setting myself up for disappointment again.
Hell, they don't even have to acknowledge any past issues--just let me know that there's a 99.9% chance that I'm going to get a shirt that I won't be embarrassed to wear in public.
And FTR, someone on another thread (I forget who) made a snarky comment about people griping about the crooked fabric . . . it matters. It matters a lot. Crooked fabric looks stupid.
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Post by DigDug on Nov 7, 2014 13:26:54 GMT -6
Absolutely no acknowledgement of the plaid alignment issues even though a good portion of their own pictures on the product pages have the same flaws. Frankly, I think I've seen more pictures with crooked plaid along the placket than I have straight ones. I lust after some of those shirts, but until someone reaches out to me and says "we guarantee that you will get a shirt with the plaid evenly aligned," I'm not setting myself up for disappointment again. Hell, they don't even have to acknowledge any past issues--just let me know that there's a 99.9% chance that I'm going to get a shirt that I won't be embarrassed to wear in public. And FTR, someone on another thread (I forget who) made a snarky comment about people griping about the crooked fabric . . . it matters. It matters a lot. Crooked fabric looks stupid. Oddly it's never bothered me, but then I wondered why. Took a look at all my plaid (cheap) shirts. Not one was Crooked! No wonders it didn't bother me  I'm just avoiding patterned shirts for now. Which will suck if Gustin offers a heavy plaid WS. I think ill judge these WS patterns by the Wide Stripe HS that should be coming out soon. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 7, 2014 15:06:50 GMT -6
I'm pretty sure the normalization involved the work shirts getting shorter to match the standard button-down length. I would say that, but the workshirts seem to be coming in matching the spec currently on the site -- though that's hard to tell cause I don't think the old fit guide exists anymore. The measurements now are definitely longer than the shirts I've received from Gustin before the fit change. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 7, 2014 15:13:21 GMT -6
And FTR, someone on another thread (I forget who) made a snarky comment about people griping about the crooked fabric . . . it matters. It matters a lot. Crooked fabric looks stupid. This might have been my comment on the Feltraiger shirt, and it was more that it was literally going to give people seizures if they were really bothered by it. The snarkiness of the comment was more directed at the weirdness in the garment referenced, and a warning for those about to click. I did notice that they seem to have taken new pictures of the orange fade plaid without the bowed placket for the new campaign, for what it's worth. Or maybe that was a customer shirt with the crescent shaped placket, can't remember now. I didn't intend to imply it doesn't matter, because I agree that it does, especially when everything else about the shirt speaks to a higher price-point, and then it's assembled poorly. Extremely disappointing when the thing you already fell in love with was the fabric. It does a disservice to the brand, the customer, and the fabric. Either way, I hope they've addressed it, I guess we'll see how the waffle dobby comes in, since that's the only shirt I have pending with Gustin. |
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Post by ickes on Nov 7, 2014 15:15:39 GMT -6
exophobe; the WS seem to be coming in matching the specs?? Did you see the measuremens I posted of mine?
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Post by exophobe on Nov 7, 2014 15:16:20 GMT -6
Oddly it's never bothered me, but then I wondered why. Took a look at all my plaid (cheap) shirts. Not one was Crooked! No wonders it didn't bother me I'm just avoiding patterned shirts for now. Which will suck if Gustin offers a heavy plaid WS. I think ill judge these WS patterns by the Wide Stripe HS that should be coming out soon. My HS1 lines up amazingly, including arrow points on the collar. really cool. I still owe you guys pictures. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 7, 2014 15:17:09 GMT -6
exophobe; the WS seem to be coming in matching the specs?? Did you see the measuremens I posted of mine? I have a table buried somewhere in here. the pre-wash is on page 10, I think, post-wash is somewhere around 12. |
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Post by stinky on Nov 7, 2014 15:45:18 GMT -6
And FTR, someone on another thread (I forget who) made a snarky comment about people griping about the crooked fabric . . . it matters. It matters a lot. Crooked fabric looks stupid. This might have been my comment on the Feltraiger shirt, and it was more that it was literally going to give people seizures if they were really bothered by it. The snarkiness of the comment was more directed at the weirdness in the garment referenced, and a warning for those about to click. I did notice that they seem to have taken new pictures of the orange fade plaid without the bowed placket for the new campaign, for what it's worth. Or maybe that was a customer shirt with the crescent shaped placket, can't remember now. I didn't intend to imply it doesn't matter, because I agree that it does, especially when everything else about the shirt speaks to a higher price-point, and then it's assembled poorly. Extremely disappointing when the thing you already fell in love with was the fabric. It does a disservice to the brand, the customer, and the fabric. Either way, I hope they've addressed it, I guess we'll see how the waffle dobby comes in, since that's the only shirt I have pending with Gustin. Thanks for that . . . I appreciate it. |
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Post by Mattbert on Nov 7, 2014 17:06:05 GMT -6
And FTR, someone on another thread (I forget who) made a snarky comment about people griping about the crooked fabric . . . it matters. It matters a lot. Crooked fabric looks stupid. This might have been my comment on the Feltraiger shirt, and it was more that it was literally going to give people seizures if they were really bothered by it. The snarkiness of the comment was more directed at the weirdness in the garment referenced, and a warning for those about to click. I did notice that they seem to have taken new pictures of the orange fade plaid without the bowed placket for the new campaign, for what it's worth. Or maybe that was a customer shirt with the crescent shaped placket, can't remember now. I hate to be a stickler about this, but look again. Those new pics of the OFP still show the pattern on the placket getting bowed, and the side seams don't line up perfectly. Neither issue is glaring, but they're there. I love my OFP so much that I've been debating whether I want to back it again in the Tall fit and hope the plaid ends up aligned better this time. The one I have now (Classic fit) is a bit off, to a similar degree as the one in the photos on the Gustin site. It's not nearly as bad as the one stinky got and not nearly bad enough to prevent me from wearing the shirt, but noticeable if you know what to look for. I kinda wish I could just get a few yards of the raw fabric and take it to a tailor to make me a bespoke shirt. The material is that good; I'd happily pay the premium for it. |
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Post by stinky on Nov 7, 2014 17:14:58 GMT -6
This might have been my comment on the Feltraiger shirt, and it was more that it was literally going to give people seizures if they were really bothered by it. The snarkiness of the comment was more directed at the weirdness in the garment referenced, and a warning for those about to click. I did notice that they seem to have taken new pictures of the orange fade plaid without the bowed placket for the new campaign, for what it's worth. Or maybe that was a customer shirt with the crescent shaped placket, can't remember now. I hate to be a stickler about this, but look again. Those new pics of the OFP still show the pattern on the placket getting bowed, and the side seams don't line up perfectly. Neither issue is glaring, but they're there. I love my OFP so much that I've been debating whether I want to back it again in the Tall fit and hope the plaid ends up aligned better this time. The one I have now (Classic fit) is a bit off, to a similar degree as the one in the photos on the Gustin site. It's not nearly as bad as the one stinky got and not nearly bad enough to prevent me from wearing the shirt, but noticeable if you know what to look for. I kinda wish I could just get a few yards of the raw fabric and take it to a tailor to make me a bespoke shirt. The material is that good; I'd happily pay the premium for it. Yes yes yes. The shirt in the example pic is not perfect. It's not crazy jacked up, but it's not this: "Button downs that are made in the USA using our quality of material and construction are typically priced at $175 to $300." Moreover, even on cheap shirts, the plaid on the placket is not only square, but positioned in a way so that the entire front of the shirt looks like one continuous pattern. I have a ton of cheap Gap lived in wash plaid shirts, most of them I paid under $20 for on sale, and all of them are as I described above. All of them. The underarms are not lined up, but the front is. And I would love to score some of that fabric as well . . . it's really special and the pictures absolutely do not do it justice. Perfect. Fall. Shirt. (minus the warts) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 12:27:47 GMT -6
brentkuz have you gotten any actual referral credits for your invite links to dappered for a while? noticed they changed the disclaimer a bit to say that they'll not credit invites originating from forums, only email and sources you have direct control over. i used to get regular credit from them, but noticed in the last month or so they just appear in the invites list with no associated credit.
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Post by denimdon on Nov 12, 2014 11:54:45 GMT -6
EDIT: They (Gustin) couldn't deliver me an black apron because they ran out of fabric...So they issued me an "inconvenience" store credit... They tried to get me into an indigo apron...I told them I already have one could I get a refund... They said sure... A day later still no refund and they took away my store credit they gave me... EDITED.
Again, feel free to post up experiences, but no name-calling on members or vendors please.
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Post by wisdom on Nov 12, 2014 12:09:37 GMT -6
Gustin is very shady! They couldn't deliver me an black apron because they ran out of fabric...So they issued me an "inconvenience" store credit... They tried to get me into an indigo apron...I told them I already have one could I get a refund... They said sure... A day later still no refund and they took away my store credit they gave me... Scheister's It might take few days for returns to post to your credit card. I don't think they'll stiff you on the return, but I think you deserved the store credit.. they shouldn't have taken that away. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 12:13:30 GMT -6
Gustin is very shady! They couldn't deliver me an black apron because they ran out of fabric...So they issued me an "inconvenience" store credit... They tried to get me into an indigo apron...I told them I already have one could I get a refund... They said sure... A day later still no refund and they took away my store credit they gave me... Scheister's This is the type of thing that makes the Proboards lose credibility, and further destroys the Gustin Community board. Members spew idiotic filth burning bridges on the Gustin Community and then run over here hoping to be greeted with open arms. If I was the admin of this forum, I'd ban idiots like this from coming here. They add nothing to the discussion here, and just want to further insult Gustin. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 12:17:39 GMT -6
Gustin is very shady! They couldn't deliver me an black apron because they ran out of fabric...So they issued me an "inconvenience" store credit... They tried to get me into an indigo apron...I told them I already have one could I get a refund... They said sure... A day later still no refund and they took away my store credit they gave me... Scheister's It might take few days for returns to post to your credit card. I don't think they'll stiff you on the return, but I think you deserved the store credit.. they shouldn't have taken that away. why did he deserve the credit -and- refund? he admitted to having received an offer of an alternative or a refund immediately after the campaign he backed funded. (assuming that was month(s) ago?) i'm also assuming, based on the fact that he received a $10 credit ($5 for the cost difference of the apron, another $5 for their screw up), that he chose to take the replacement. now he has changed his mind some time after the fact that he instead wants a refund (indicating he already has an indigo apron). i'm not sure why in that case he deserves both the refund and the credit just because he changed his mind after the fact. if he had chosen the refund to begin with (immediately after the campaign closed) he would have simply gotten the refund. note: this was of course after going on about gustin's deceptive and shady practices (again, while admitting that he did get an option immediately after the campaign funded)...and indicating that he's awaiting responses from inquiries to G. whatever any of us think about Gustin, i doubt many would say that they've not gotten some sort of response to an issue (and in this case Stephen even chimed in with records of the responses) |
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Post by ickes on Nov 12, 2014 12:23:04 GMT -6
@david; I don't believe Wisdom was saying he deserved both, was he? At least that's not how I understood it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 12:30:22 GMT -6
ickes that's how i understood it according to "I think you deserved the store credit.. they shouldn't have taken that away" but i'll defer to wisdom to say how he intended it. i was curious on his reasoning.
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Post by denimdon on Nov 12, 2014 12:32:43 GMT -6
After the campaign closed there was no talk or refunds... The offer for the replacement apron was offered to everybody not just me... They said they had a few laying around if someone couldn't wait that long they could ship it... I thought about it but really wanted the heavy 16oz black so I passed...
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Post by Old26 on Nov 12, 2014 12:33:25 GMT -6
Gustin is very shady! They couldn't deliver me an black apron because they ran out of fabric...So they issued me an "inconvenience" store credit... They tried to get me into an indigo apron...I told them I already have one could I get a refund... They said sure... A day later still no refund and they took away my store credit they gave me... Scheister's This is the type of thing that makes the Proboards lose credibility, and further destroys the Gustin Community board. Members spew idiotic filth burning bridges on the Gustin Community and then run over here hoping to be greeted with open arms. If I was the admin of this forum, I'd ban idiots like this from coming here. They add nothing to the discussion here, and just want to further insult Gustin. "Proboards" is the name of the software/service. There is no lost credibility here due to a person posting what they think. I'm not going to delete this member because he has an opinion of Gustin (or anyone else) unless it's an outright lie. We will however edit/delete posts when a claim is made and I think calling Gustin shady in this case might indeed be a case for editing. We have no issues with honest posting here - even if it does not shed a favorable light on a vendor - but we won't put up with accusations of a vendor being shady due to someone not liking their policies. If there is a post or member that is being abusive, please PM the mod's. We want this place to be fun and useful, not a playground for BS. If you have issues with a vendor, please take those up with them. This is not the place to post those. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 12:39:16 GMT -6
After the campaign closed there was no talk or refunds... The offer for the replacement apron was offered to everybody not just me... They said they had a few laying around if someone couldn't wait that long they could ship it... I thought about it but really wanted the heavy 16oz black so I passed... ahh...misunderstood your post from yesterday. thanks for the clarification. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 12:41:17 GMT -6
Gustin is very shady! They couldn't deliver me an black apron because they ran out of fabric...So they issued me an "inconvenience" store credit... They tried to get me into an indigo apron...I told them I already have one could I get a refund... They said sure... A day later still no refund and they took away my store credit they gave me... Scheister's This is the type of thing that makes the Proboards lose credibility, and further destroys the Gustin Community board. Members spew idiotic filth burning bridges on the Gustin Community and then run over here hoping to be greeted with open arms. If I was the admin of this forum, I'd ban idiots like this from coming here. They add nothing to the discussion here, and just want to further insult Gustin. Cannot disagree with you more. I think people has the right to express their experience with any vendor here. When you had concern with your Lawless order about the bags, many of the members were very supportive to listen to you about your experience with Lawless. We need to give a chance to @demindon to tell his side of the story. |
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Post by denimdon on Nov 12, 2014 12:51:23 GMT -6
Thanks old26... Spoken like a true gentlemen... Guys I'm a very quiet guy and dont complain much or post much (as you can see from my post count) ... But I felt I had to tell you guys for what it's worth.... I don't lie and put misinformation up for shits and giggles I put it up cause it's the truth... Take this information as use as you will
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Post by Old26 on Nov 12, 2014 12:51:37 GMT -6
After the campaign closed there was no talk or refunds... The offer for the replacement apron was offered to everybody not just me... They said they had a few laying around if someone couldn't wait that long they could ship it... I thought about it but really wanted the heavy 16oz black so I passed... I just want to make sure that you put this topic to rest here. I've gone over to the Gustin boards, and your posts there are not of a very adult nature. You got offered a credit due to price differences. Once a full refund was offered, that credit disappears - which is 100% the way it should be. You either take the replacement and the differential, or you take the refund - not both. So, no more of this here, OK? And to be totally honest, we've all had moments online. Most of the guys here - me included - have posted in anger/frustration. But let's use the boards to our advantage and keep cool. We'll all benefit from that!  |
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Post by denimdon on Nov 12, 2014 12:59:20 GMT -6
I thought the credit was for waiting nearly three months and receiving nothing...The email should be re-written to avoid future problems... Take the replacement and receive the credit... get a refund and receive nothing for your troubles...
Edit I was only offered a refund 3 days ago...I've been waiting since 8/19/14... Guys I apologize for over-reacting a little bit... Old26 contacted me about this matter and in the future I will refrain from this...My point was simply... I thought the ten dollar credit was a gesture of good faith and was supposed to be kinda like a "give us another shot" type of thing buy another product so we can make it right...
Old26 if you delete this I understand
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 14:29:11 GMT -6
This is the type of thing that makes the Proboards lose credibility, and further destroys the Gustin Community board. Members spew idiotic filth burning bridges on the Gustin Community and then run over here hoping to be greeted with open arms. If I was the admin of this forum, I'd ban idiots like this from coming here. They add nothing to the discussion here, and just want to further insult Gustin. "Proboards" is the name of the software/service. There is no lost credibility here due to a person posting what they think. I'm not going to delete this member because he has an opinion of Gustin (or anyone else) unless it's an outright lie. We will however edit/delete posts when a claim is made and I think calling Gustin shady in this case might indeed be a case for editing. We have no issues with honest posting here - even if it does not shed a favorable light on a vendor - but we won't put up with accusations of a vendor being shady due to someone not liking their policies. If there is a post or member that is being abusive, please PM the mod's. We want this place to be fun and useful, not a playground for BS. If you have issues with a vendor, please take those up with them. This is not the place to post those. ScottBott, I'm very well aware Proboards is the name of the software/service. It's a lot more easier to say Proboards, and have people understand what I mean, than to say "Gustin Friends Selvedge & Style Forum." But, if it's just a normal complaint, I have no problem. But he received an email, didn't like what it said so he posted it to Gustin Community. Stephen cleared it up, and the very next day, this guy comes out to complain and offers a ridiculous conspiracy theory about how Gustin is trying to rob him of apron money. Then he comes here when he doesn't get the response he likes. It's very similar to how one guy here, after Cody requested us not to talk about LD in the Gustin Community, decided to burn his bridges with Gustin by advertising the LD sale on the Community board. Then proceeds to bad mouth Gustin nonstop here, even admitting that he didn't even take it up with Gustin CS. Also, a different member, decides to drop the f bomb in regards to Gustin's quality on the Gustin Community, and then comes here to continuously bad mouth Gustin as well. This is the type of thing I'm talking about. It's not just a member offering his opinion on a vendor, but it's purposeful insulting and devaluing a brand because of a bad experience that they themselves chose not to fix. |
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I'm just avoiding patterned shirts for now. Which will suck if Gustin offers a heavy plaid WS. I think ill judge these WS patterns by the Wide Stripe HS that should be coming out soon. 
