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Post by bentin on Jan 19, 2018 14:12:46 GMT -6
On the TS front, I fully expect to have to exchange my MOTO replacement shirt for credit. At least TS mechanic and whatever the OCBD pattern is called are pretty consistent. Received my replacement today. Slightly larger, so I'm keeping it. yayy. Might dry clean it though.......... Uh, what? Dry cleaning is absurdly hard on clothes. At the very least, only use their laundry service. And that won't help you with this shirt. Just don't wash it. My black one from two seasons ago (wearing it now) has never been washed and at the most will just get a cold rinse in the tub if it ever starts to smell. Just wiggle it around in a little Woolite Dark and dry it on a sweater rack. |
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Post by northcoast on Jan 19, 2018 15:08:55 GMT -6
Received my replacement today. Slightly larger, so I'm keeping it. yayy. Might dry clean it though.......... Uh, what? Dry cleaning is absurdly hard on clothes. At the very least, only use their laundry service. And that won't help you with this shirt. Just don't wash it. My black one from two seasons ago (wearing it now) has never been washed and at the most will just get a cold rinse in the tub if it ever starts to smell. Just wiggle it around in a little Woolite Dark and dry it on a sweater rack. Thanks for the tip. I do have the Woolite dark and I do wash everything on gentle in cold. My goto 'dont want to wash' move is to rinse and spin only. That cycle is like 13 minutes. |
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Post by bentin on Jan 19, 2018 15:31:57 GMT -6
Just remember, if it shrinks in the machine and you get mad, it would have almost certainly shrunk less in the tub. Oh, and I told you so.
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Post by northcoast on Jan 19, 2018 16:11:04 GMT -6
Just remember, if it shrinks in the machine and you get mad, it would have almost certainly shrunk less in the tub. Oh, and I told you so. I really need to send you a bottle of bourbon....... |
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Post by bentin on Jan 19, 2018 16:21:53 GMT -6
Just remember, if it shrinks in the machine and you get mad, it would have almost certainly shrunk less in the tub. Oh, and I told you so. I really need to send you a bottle of bourbon....... Fewer truths have been more truthier. |
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Post by ncbluegrass on Jan 20, 2018 9:50:13 GMT -6
Send one this way too  |
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Post by mick8moses on Feb 4, 2018 6:16:49 GMT -6
Ok I've been interested in getting a pair of real raw jeans for a year and finally bought the bullet when I heard the White Oak factory closed. I went with the 15.25 oz natural indigo dyed for my first. www.taylorstitch.com/collections/mens-denim/products/the-democratic-jean-in-110-year-denimQuestion on sizing, reading the chart I would be a size 36 but in say Levi's 501 I'm a 34. Anyone have a good recommendation? Does everyone submerge they're jeans in the tub to remove the starch? Or just wear them for six months first before washing? |
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Post by nate001 on Feb 4, 2018 13:29:07 GMT -6
Ok I've been interested in getting a pair of real raw jeans for a year and finally bought the bullet when I heard the White Oak factory closed. I went with the 15.25 oz natural indigo dyed for my first. www.taylorstitch.com/collections/mens-denim/products/the-democratic-jean-in-110-year-denimQuestion on sizing, reading the chart I would be a size 36 but in say Levi's 501 I'm a 34. Anyone have a good recommendation? Does everyone submerge they're jeans in the tub to remove the starch? Or just wear them for six months first before washing? Welcome to the forum. Sizing jeans is a notoriously goofy thing with no standardization. Many denim companies use what is called "vanity sizing" which means the jeans have an actual waist of 36", but they put a 34 tag on it. The world of raw denim does this too, but a somewhat less than, say, the Gap. Anyway, most raw denim will have a fit chart somewhere on the webpage. Taylor Stitch does too, just click on the "sizing" button below the "add to cart" button. Once you are on that page, get a pair of pants you already own that fits you well and compare the measurements of those pants to the fit chart. Many companies will also show you how to measure. It might seem obvious, but different companies can do their measurements in slightly different ways and it can lead to a fairly major difference in fit. Taylor Stitch probably has a "how to measure" section on their site somewhere too, but I can't find it right offhand. You will need a tape measure to do this. Cone White Oak denim is a great first choice, especially now that the plant is closing. It's sort of a classic looking denim. If and when you get more into the raw denim scene, you might start branching out into all kinds of other denim, often milled in Japan. There's a whole vocabulary that gets thrown around here. I didn't know what the hell most folks were talking about when I first joined the forum, and I still don't, but I've learn a lot about denim and clothing generally from Heddels.com. Soaking jeans right away is completely up to you. If you want softer jeans right away, go for it. There's no wrong answer. Many hard core denim guys like to wait to soak/wash because it results in greater contrast fades (ie, difference between the blue indigo and the white faded denim) if you wait. That's my 2 cents. Don't be afraid to ask questions. You'll get opinions. It's a pretty fun little hobby. Kinda expensive, but less than owning a boat or a horse or something. |
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Post by mick8moses on Feb 23, 2018 9:06:28 GMT -6
 As I mentioned in my earlier post, this is my first pair of "real" jeans. In Levi's I'm a 32/34 waist. My first Taylor Stitch pair of Democratic standard fit, 110 year Cone Mill White Oak, natural Indigo dyed denim I ordered in size 36 waist. They came in much too large especially in the thighs. So I exchanged them for a size 33 of the democratic slim fit in the same 110 year Cone Mill denim. www.taylorstitch.com/collections/mens-denim/products/the-slim-jean-in-110-year-denim. These are my comments and observations so far... Overall Experience: Very Good. The original purchase did take almost a week to reach me as it was shipped USPS ground from CA to GA. The wrapping was very nice with a printed cardboard box, an enclosed thank you card, and the jeans wrapped in plastic. The jeans themselves were as I mentioned very large they do seem to fit in what I'll call Levi's 501 sizing. I returned the jeans in the box at a local USPS drop. After that I did an online "chat" with a T&S employee. I realized I wanted to size down and decided to try the "slim" fit (honestly there weren't any available in sizes 32-34 in the standard fit so it wasn't an option). The online experience was very good and the T&S representative did apply the first customer discount to the exchange at my request. The second pair of jeans came much quicker than the first (only three days). Interestingly they were just packed in a shipping bag - no fancy box or thank you card this time. My thoughts on the jeans: Wow these jeans are heavy & stiff! Nate you are spot on with the color, the natural indigo is a very "classic looking denim". Reminds me of the color jeans I had back in the late 70's before the 80's brought us stone and acid washes. As for feel, the jeans are very starchy and stiff. Today is only my second wearing. The first day I could only wear them for an hour or two before I felt blisters developing behind my knees. I have decided not to soak them yet and try to break them in on my own for a bit, just to see if contrast fades form at all. The San Francisco map inside of the pockets is whimsical and fun. The copper button fly is very sturdy and riveted to the jeans instead of just sewn there. The leather patch is heavy duty - not the cheapo patches of department store jeans. These are 15.25 oz jeans that are heavy and strong - no question they will last for years of regular wear - unless you regularly drag your knees taking the corners on a crotch rocket. My wife thinks I'm absolutely crazy to "break-in" my own jeans and sees no point to the madness. I actually think it's fun to develop a relationship with these jeans by breaking them in myself. I am very happy I was able to procure one of the last of the Cone Mill White Oak denim jeans to come off the looms. I do think next I will try a pair of Japanese denim jeans and welcome suggestions. I do want to try something with a high probability of developing high contrast whiskers and fades as a next choice. I will try and add more photos later of the different features for those interested. |
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Post by taylor31 on Oct 17, 2024 1:56:32 GMT -6
Quick and fast.
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