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Post by bugula on Dec 9, 2014 21:43:19 GMT -6
how'd your sleeves take to the wash?
i'm not too upset about the length of this, it's about an inch longer than i'd like but if i end up going the overshirt route with it, then that'll be ok. the sleeves going shorter i'd get pissy about.
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Post by bugula on Dec 9, 2014 21:44:38 GMT -6
and looking at the pics and the shirt again, it's just not the right fit for me - the shoulders are wider than they should be. wonder if i could go classic L in the WS and be good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 21:47:12 GMT -6
The Zim workshirts are looking pretty damn awesome from where I'm sitting! I think these are going to be the Gustin shirts showing up with "ohhhh shit" level fades in a year. Sold my Wabi Sabi today and changed the shipping address at Gustin's site. That sounded really philosophical. Anyway, three months of waiting, wondering and being excited and then delivery week comes and I hand it off to someone else. Hell, there could be a free denim cardholder in there and I wouldn't ever know Now I know how surrogate mothers feel. I feel like the Sakebomber (credit to Old26) will be beautiful but she was not meant to be mine. I love the fabric and am planning to take the whole shirt apart to give it a major surgery.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 21:49:39 GMT -6
how'd your sleeves take to the wash? i'm not too upset about the length of this, it's about an inch longer than i'd like but if i end up going the overshirt route with it, then that'll be ok. the sleeves going shorter i'd get pissy about. Sleeves shrink both the width and length.... Btw, I hope you don't mind I say this but if you can return the shirt back to G..... I would consider..... especially after I saw how nice were your IH shirt pictures in similar color fabric.
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Post by bugula on Dec 9, 2014 21:59:06 GMT -6
yeah, believe me, the thought crossed my mind to do that. i do like having this as it's a non-western style, but the "bigness" of it is off-putting for sure. decisions, decisions.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 9, 2014 22:24:49 GMT -6
and looking at the pics and the shirt again, it's just not the right fit for me - the shoulders are wider than they should be. wonder if i could go classic L in the WS and be good. Just keep in mind that the shoulders seem to hang weird with a new, stiff shirt. They almost seem to behave like a blazer until they're all broken in, from what I've seen -- for another example check out the product shots from the Taylor Stitch denim shirt in the store right now. Looks crazy boxy even though the cut on their shirts doesn't tend to be, and I doubt it's a totally new pattern. Plus it appears to have a whole tree growing out of the shoulder and he doesn't even notice.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 9, 2014 22:29:48 GMT -6
Slim large Zimbabwe work shirt. Love the quality, triple stitching, selvedge details and the 10 oz denim. I like the fit, but don't love it. It's too long by about 2" or so in my opinion. On the other hand, when I got off my Ducati and inspected my dual denim look I felt like I should have been on a Harley. That fabric and color of stitching looks great Slim fit looks really nice.
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Post by bugula on Dec 10, 2014 4:54:02 GMT -6
Just keep in mind that the shoulders seem to hang weird with a new, stiff shirt. They almost seem to behave like a blazer until they're all broken in, from what I've seen -- for another example check out the product shots from the Taylor Stitch denim shirt in the store right now. Looks crazy boxy even though the cut on their shirts doesn't tend to be, and I doubt it's a totally new pattern. Plus it appears to have a whole tree growing out of the shoulder and he doesn't even notice. Yeah, it is just a big fit overall though. Thanks for posting the TS example. With it open like in that shot, it's a bit more bearable so I just need to decide to wear it as an overshirt or get it back to G. Probably will hang onto it and go slim on shirts in the future.d
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 5:13:45 GMT -6
Just opened my Zimbabwe work shirt and I am not happy. I am pressed for time at the moment, but will follow up soon. #Irony
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Post by brentkuz on Dec 10, 2014 6:41:55 GMT -6
Just opened my Zimbabwe work shirt and I am not happy. I am pressed for time at the moment, but will follow up soon. #Irony It's seems to be true tho. I had full faith in Gustin until hiccups came quite often. After wearig Iron Heart it will be hard to go back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 7:19:36 GMT -6
Just opened my Zimbabwe work shirt and I am not happy. I am pressed for time at the moment, but will follow up soon. #Irony No, his point was that he wasn't happy...he was ecstatic. Posted a glowing review sometime yesterday
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Post by chinaski on Dec 10, 2014 7:55:59 GMT -6
Great review Jockohomo. I couldn't agree more.
It's crazy how all the haters of the shirt remain making daily comments on it. It only seems like a small handful did and it was due to the length... I'm assuming.
These are Workshirts/over shirts/smocks. Its thick fabric made to protect and last for along time. I am very happy with my two purchases, but I wasn't thrilled at first. It took a weeks worth of wears for it to settle and form to me. Theyre alot like jeans. They will get better the more they are broken in. The arms stretch and the tight armpits will give which will add great fade lines
Don't go the amateur route and hot wash them. It'll ruin them. That's day one stuff. Dye bleeds in hot water. If its that bad return it.
Live and learn. Don't be that guy tho.
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Post by jockohomo on Dec 10, 2014 8:16:43 GMT -6
No, his point was that he wasn't happy...he was ecstatic. Posted a glowing review sometime yesterday Proves you can "fool some of the people all of the time!"
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Post by Griffin on Dec 10, 2014 8:40:03 GMT -6
pics?
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Post by Winterland on Dec 10, 2014 11:14:13 GMT -6
Great review Jockohomo. I couldn't agree more. It's crazy how all the haters of the shirt remain making daily comments on it. It only seems like a small handful did and it was due to the length... I'm assuming. These are Workshirts/over shirts/smocks. Its thick fabric made to protect and last for along time. I am very happy with my two purchases, but I wasn't thrilled at first. It took a weeks worth of wears for it to settle and form to me. Theyre alot like jeans. They will get better the more they are broken in. The arms stretch and the tight armpits will give which will add great fade lines Don't go the amateur route and hot wash them. It'll ruin them. That's day one stuff. Dye bleeds in hot water. If its that bad return it. Live and learn. Don't be that guy tho. I wouldn't call a hot water wash or putting in a dryer to shrink to perfect size amateur. Not all dies bleed but yes you can lose a little color. You can minimize loss with a hot soak with some agitation. Sometimes a person's size fits in between a manufacturers sizes and this is the only way to get the fit a person wants. Faiirly common practice. As you mentioned sometimes just wearing in will get the fabric to break in and feel/look better especially with thicker fabrics.
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Post by usctroll on Dec 10, 2014 11:35:00 GMT -6
I wouldn't call a hot water wash or putting in a dryer to shrink to perfect size amateur. Not all dies bleed but yes you can lose a little color. You can minimize loss with a hot soak with some agitation. Sometimes a person's size fits in between a manufacturers sizes and this is the only way to get the fit a person wants. Faiirly common practice. As you mentioned sometimes just wearing in will get the fabric to break in and feel/look better especially with thicker fabrics. Yeah, I care more about the fit than the fades. This is going to be a shirt that gets worn a couple of times per month so the fades would be a sweet long time in coming anyway. But as far as length goes, you're looking at a very long shirt. I'm 6'2" and this thing is closing in on crotch length. Don't buy this shirt if you can't handle the length. (that's what she said)
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Post by chinaski on Dec 10, 2014 11:51:26 GMT -6
My income isn't exactly disposable so if I were to buy another $140 shirt and I didn't like the fit I'm not gonna gripe about it I'm gonna send it back. Who wants a trophy of a reminder of something they hate?
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Post by exophobe on Dec 10, 2014 11:54:26 GMT -6
Great review Jockohomo. I couldn't agree more. It's crazy how all the haters of the shirt remain making daily comments on it. It only seems like a small handful did and it was due to the length... I'm assuming. These are Workshirts/over shirts/smocks. Its thick fabric made to protect and last for along time. I am very happy with my two purchases, but I wasn't thrilled at first. It took a weeks worth of wears for it to settle and form to me. Theyre alot like jeans. They will get better the more they are broken in. The arms stretch and the tight armpits will give which will add great fade lines Don't go the amateur route and hot wash them. It'll ruin them. That's day one stuff. Dye bleeds in hot water. If its that bad return it. Live and learn. Don't be that guy tho. I ran mine (Japan HS1) through a warm wash to tighten it up a bit since in the classic cut it came in quite a bit too big for me (since I sized it as an overshirt), but I have a review somewhere in this thread about how much I like it. Based on the pictures I've seen, none of those that were hot-washed are ruined by bleeding or anything of the sort. Mine has a "major" yoke alignment issue that Gustin worked with me on, so all in all I'm still happy with the shirt I've received. I know I've lamented my current issues with Gustin shipping, but holidays ruin everything, and I have also admitted it's likely due to my own impatience since I'm not clothes-less waiting for Gustin to deliver my workshirts and jeans -- I just wanted them by Thursday so they could travel with me on Friday. Regarding issues, the most common complaint aside from length is the button stitching, and the lack of spare buttons. If those with button issues have been reporting them to Gustin, I would imagine it will be fixed within a couple runs of workshirts since they can't do anything about the ones that already have buttons on them. The fit is what the fit is, this is a new product, so you have to hope Gustin is working on adjusting the fit, and if not, then find something that meets your need. On the sympathy side, remember that these purchases were made on faith (since there was no existing workshirt in the wild when everything being delivered now was ordered). Totally agree that the continued belly-aching could stop and we'd be stronger for it, but several people have been receiving their first workshirt the last couple weeks, so it's not necessarily all old business.
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Post by davelewis on Dec 10, 2014 11:58:51 GMT -6
My postal works well for me, bacause it came in short. AT 6'2" though it is at the limit. I guess it was s+it house luck. Will be my last unless they adjust this, but won't be holding my breath. I totally agree that if you like the shirt, then hot wash it and dry it. It really won't matter in the end, and a shirt with "fades" that is a poor fit, is still a shirt with a poor fit. Mine does fit better after a few wears.
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Post by chinaski on Dec 10, 2014 12:09:06 GMT -6
You make a lot of great points. I've grown very frustrated with gustin over the loomstates and the zims that should have shipped last month. No word what's going on. They seem to put on a smile and to your face tell you they have everything under control at all times. Be nice to hear them say "we appreciate you and apologize but we screwed up. We got greedy and made more orders than we could fulfill. ". No company would actually do that tho.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 12:10:12 GMT -6
I wouldn't call a hot water wash or putting in a dryer to shrink to perfect size amateur. Not all dies bleed but yes you can lose a little color. You can minimize loss with a hot soak with some agitation. Sometimes a person's size fits in between a manufacturers sizes and this is the only way to get the fit a person wants. Faiirly common practice. As you mentioned sometimes just wearing in will get the fabric to break in and feel/look better especially with thicker fabrics. Yeah, I care more about the fit than the fades. This is going to be a shirt that gets worn a couple of times per month so the fades would be a sweet long time in coming anyway. But as far as length goes, you're looking at a very long shirt. I'm 6'2" and this thing is closing in on crotch length. Don't buy this shirt if you can't handle the length. (that's what she said) I am 5'10" and mine is long... I meant the Gustin work shirt before two washes and dry cycles ....
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Post by davelewis on Dec 10, 2014 12:42:16 GMT -6
You make a lot of great points. I've grown very frustrated with gustin over the loomstates and the zims that should have shipped last month. No word what's going on. They seem to put on a smile and to your face tell you they have everything under control at all times. Be nice to hear them say "we appreciate you and apologize but we screwed up. We got greedy and made more orders than we could fulfill. ". No company would actually do that tho. I feel you. I have to say I was enamored more with Gustin in the beginning, when they were a selvedge jean company, with great pricing, and a lower turnaound time. As they have progressed, they have brought a lot more offerings into the fold, and the times for the customer to receive their items has grown. My last chinos were over 4 months. I think people would feel better if they promised realistic timeframes for items, and then delivered, but as long as you are happy to wait it out, you can still get some great products at decent prices.
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Post by Old26 on Dec 10, 2014 12:50:23 GMT -6
I've seen more posts of delayed shipping lately. I consider this a different case than LD being very new. Seems Gustin are more into adding more items as opposed to getting the problems and delays sorted. It's too bad too - there are some things I'd like to get, but the wait is no longer something I'm willing to put up with. I'm not even sure I can deal with the LD wait at this point, so I may be back to searching for off the shelf gear again...at least until things get caught up.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 10, 2014 12:52:22 GMT -6
You make a lot of great points. I've grown very frustrated with gustin over the loomstates and the zims that should have shipped last month. No word what's going on. They seem to put on a smile and to your face tell you they have everything under control at all times. Be nice to hear them say "we appreciate you and apologize but we screwed up. We got greedy and made more orders than we could fulfill. ". No company would actually do that tho. When considering that, though, also consider that this is a relatively new business model, so they are likely going to try to flex it a bit when holidays come around. All the interviews that JG did around the "Gustin 2.0" launch is about doing clothing without significant overhead, so flexing the model in ways it hasn't been tested is going to result in things like this. My only hope for them (since I'm wearing a Gustin shirt right now and most days I'm wearing Gustin jeans) is that they learn from it and do it better next time. Doesn't mean I'm not frustrated now, but I guess that's the breaks. I'd probably be fine if they weren't going to be sitting in shipping bags at work while I'm out gallivanting around.
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Post by chinaski on Dec 10, 2014 12:57:02 GMT -6
Wow, you know a lot about the company. Did you work for them at one point?
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