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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:34:44 GMT -6
I can't even see your face in those photos but something just looks out of place. I'm just speculating and i hope i dont piss you off but I don't think you're a workshirt kinda guy. Maybe it's just not the right look for you.
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Post by eczerwonka on Nov 21, 2014 23:39:05 GMT -6
Wow, I guess I have zero ability in judging exact perfect sizing because it look fine. I don't see how some of you can want a fit like that to be tighter. How the hell could you move? I like to be able to tie my shoes without it feeling like the back would split. My workshirt is still a bit loose since it really needs a full wash and dry but no way in hell would I think about posting a pic if you all think that fit above is the worst thing in the world. Crazy. I think his post wash length and shoulders/chest seem fine, but from the photo you I think there's just too much fabric around the mid-section. I'm sure if you pulled on the rear of the shirt that you'd be able to pull it out at least 8" if not a foot from his body. I don't think most people need that much slop in their shirt to move around. But... that's why the stuff comes in different sizes and slim/regular cuts are offered... because everyone has slightly different preferences. Yeah I think part of that comes from the fact I have a bit of a tire and I ride a motorcycle to work every day here in FL. I hate my shirts to fit tight enough to be uncomfortable but not loose enough to fly up the back. I will say that fit looks very trim and tailored even if it's a stock fit. I just kinda wish I could go that trim on shirts. |
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Post by ickes on Nov 21, 2014 23:39:57 GMT -6
eczerwonka; I completely understand what you're saying, having some room in a WS is good, especially if you are using the WS for its intended purpose of performing manual labor. I'm not sure if you own a GUSTIN work shirt yet or not, but for myself and for others it is a strange fit. The biceps are a bit snug, especially when I'm bending my elbows and the muscle is flexed, then the forearms are baggy and the sleeve is too long by at least an inch. Cuff opening is also too wide. Chest and shoulders are decent but then the waist/body of the shirt is extremely boxy. It's just an odd fit and I'm not "whining" I am simply stating a fact. I kept my IxI because I am actually using it as a WS/jac and it actually works pretty good for that. I've gotten some really good use out of it and it's ready for a wash already, nice and dirty  . However, I don't feel it is worth the price and I would never wear it socially.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:55:48 GMT -6
The sleeves over time stretch alittle and bunch up and form to your arms and body. It takes awhile and Itll stink but you'll get full sleeves of whiskers and honeycombs. Just treat it like you would a pair of jeans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:58:53 GMT -6
I can't even see your face in those photos but something just looks out of place. I'm just speculating and i hope i dont piss you off but I don't think you're a workshirt kinda guy. Maybe it's just not the right look for you. Nah, don't worry about it. I expect getting feedback either way when I posted my photos. Don't bother me a bit. You are right and I normally wear business attire at work. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 0:02:20 GMT -6
Well I suppose that looks like a perfect fit then  It just doesn't look that comfortable to me. Waist looks like if you bend over it will bind, sleeves and shoulders look like if you bend more than 10 degrees the cuffs will be well above the wrists, can you even tie your shoes? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it looks "too" perfect... like all I could do is stand there. Looks great though... I guess I like more of a sloppy slob fit Believe it or not, it is totally comfortable. It will be even better if I can get my body fat down couple percentage. |
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Post by ickes on Nov 22, 2014 0:20:13 GMT -6
yeah I think the fit of that IH shirt looks good @wils.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 0:20:37 GMT -6
Nothing I can do if you think my shirt is a good fit. My point has nothing to do with the fit of your shirt. - The first time you unbuttoned the shirt, you mentioned one or two buttons fell off.
- I think you mentioned a crooked placket
- Yoke better than mine which I posted a picture of but not aligned, terrible construction all around
- Way too long and well over spec
With those complaints, instead of returning the shirt, you decided to wash and dry it on hot and cut your losses. After that, you've continued to say how awful it is. The fabric is terrible because it shows washer fades and bleeding, more buttons falling off, continued terrible fit, further complaints about workmanship. To date, you've implied that instead of notifying Gustin of your problems with the shirt, you continue to talk about how terrible the Gustin workshirt is. I'm not trying to be a jerk, or attack you personally, but I think it might be time to take your own advice and quit whining about the fit problems with your shirt. Now you're talking about how everybody else you encounter can't believe how terrible the shirt is. We get it. People that have had problems such as yours have reported their issues to Gustin, and been reimbursed for repair charges, received exchanges, returns for credit, returns for refunds, pretty much any other solution you can think of. The reason your complaints about the shirt are exasperating is that you make them with no hope or intent of resolution, rather to communicate how terrible Gustin is for even selling this thing or having the nerve to put it in an envelope and ship it to you. This is the first run of a new product, with a new sew-shop, and a new fit. Gustin ran samples, we've seen pictures of them, so it seems that they've done testing, but how much? No idea. I am so incredibly frustrated with Gustin and the QC issues that so many people here have seen. I don't keep that a secret. Their vendor just cut the goddam selvedge ID off of a shirt that I was pretty damned excited for, and they've offered me a solution I'm not pleased with. So now I'm going to go back and let them know I don't think it's satisfactory. If they give me the finger, then I'm done, if they make it better, then I'll continue supporting them. If they don't make it right, though, I'm not going to spend the next six months talking about how awful they are. I am pretty much documenting my G work shirt journey here. There is no different than what I post on the Lawless, Iron heart or Ciano threads. If you have read my posts, I tried to express my own honest opinions on things. I just called out what I see and sometimes I was right and many times that I was wrong. It is just my negative comments getting more attention than the others. We are all adults here and they can all believe what they want to believe. The reason I post actual photos of myself is because people can have a visual to form their own opinions. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 11:08:56 GMT -6
Postal HB WS is in my possession. !st thoughts are "ITS AMAZING" Pics and my fit thoughts in a bit
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 11:24:52 GMT -6
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Post by bigblack on Nov 22, 2014 11:31:31 GMT -6
Def long but I can care less because its fu&^ing amazing. Ill soak it eventually but for now i like how stiff it is I give it a 9 out of 10 and thats because it makes me feel good inside This makes me feel good for my Cone 101 WS as I'm 6'1 and thought Gustin shirts were a little short for me. Did you get an XXL? |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 22, 2014 11:31:22 GMT -6
I can't even see your face in those photos but something just looks out of place. I'm just speculating and i hope i dont piss you off but I don't think you're a workshirt kinda guy. Maybe it's just not the right look for you. Nah, don't worry about it. I expect getting feedback either way when I posted my photos. Don't bother me a bit. You are right and I normally wear business attire at work. IMHO the pants does not work with that style of shirt. This is what makes it look off to me. The pants are too slim and modern in the leg, and they are (also imho) too short. A v-neck and a striped shirt works with those pants, but I would choose something more "worky" with that shirt. I also think the G-shirts are strange. I dont own a workshirt (I saw the specs and knew it would be even worse) but own several normal shirts in L and XL in different fabrics. The L is perfect length in body and sleeves but too narrow shoulders, neck and chest. Waist is fine. XL is good in neck, shoulders and chest, but comically long in body and too long in arms aswell. Also gets too loose in waist. So pest or kolera? |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 22, 2014 11:36:00 GMT -6
Def long but I can care less because its fu&^ing amazing. Ill soak it eventually but for now i like how stiff it is I give it a 9 out of 10 and thats because it makes me feel good inside I know you've been excited for this one, so I'm glad to see you're pleased. Also, glad to see the shop may be tightening up the production on these, those seams look ruler-straight. |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 22, 2014 11:41:32 GMT -6
Looks great DD. Is that White thread same as LD White?
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 11:44:17 GMT -6
Looks great DD. Is that White thread same as LD White? No its the khaki color actually and the perfect thread for it |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 22, 2014 11:48:32 GMT -6
No its the khaki color actually and the perfect thread for it Thank you for the pictures, it's taken me from being fairly discouraged about my upcoming workshirts (the issues with mine combined with the waffle dobby issue) to again being excited for the Wabisabi. Here's hoping your shirt isn't a fluke (the pic is kind of small in the yoke, but it looks to be well aligned. Is this wishful thinking or is it as good as it looks from the pic? |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 22, 2014 11:55:51 GMT -6
Looks great DD. Is that White thread same as LD White? No its the khaki color actually and the perfect thread for it Gah so then i should change my Brown to khaki youthink? What about metal copper/black buttons? |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 12:09:18 GMT -6
Its undoubtedly really long like a dress shirt but everything else came out so good for my body I am fine with it. I mean I havent really looked at the construction but then again I never ever do that. Im really not one to look at stuff like that unless i notice it. I will give it a hard look for the sake of the thread but its looking good atm
PTP 25in - .5 higher
Waist 24 - .5 higher
Sleeve 37 - .5 higher
Shoulder 20 - perfect
Back Length 32.5 -.625 higher This is where they needed to really dial it in since they bombed in making it to long in the 1st place
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 12:12:00 GMT -6
No its the khaki color actually and the perfect thread for it Thank you for the pictures, it's taken me from being fairly discouraged about my upcoming workshirts (the issues with mine combined with the waffle dobby issue) to again being excited for the Wabisabi. Here's hoping your shirt isn't a fluke (the pic is kind of small in the yoke, but it looks to be well aligned. Is this wishful thinking or is it as good as it looks from the pic? Ok I looked and everything looks good to me, again i dont really look to pick stuff apart especially if from 1st glance something looks good. Either way this is a killer shirt that happens to look like it turned out how they intended it to |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 12:27:08 GMT -6
No its the khaki color actually and the perfect thread for it Gah so then i should change my Brown to khaki youthink? What about metal copper/black buttons? The brown with the brown buttons I posted would make an amazing shirt. The khaki is equally as good |
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Post by davelewis on Nov 22, 2014 12:31:12 GMT -6
I think it looks great. A lot of these were looking real boxy because people were showing the shirt right out the box. Its raw fabric so we have to give it a bit of time to settle and mold to our bodies. Yes the lengths have been long but it looks like washing is taking care of that. Nah, one of my co-worker told me today that he had never seen me wear such an ill fitted shirt to work. The photo actually looks much better than the real thing because a lot of extra fabric is at the back. I am going to have my tailor to take in the waist on Monday. Should be good after that. Looks good from the picture, and I also think people have to keep in mind that these are supposed to be "work shirts" which means there has to be enough room to move around and do chores, like laying on the floor, and plumbing under a sink, etc. At least for me that is. If shirts are too fitted, then they become poser work shirts IMO. Just my 2 cents, although I know a lot won't agree. |
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Post by davelewis on Nov 22, 2014 12:41:21 GMT -6
Def long but I can care less because its fu&^ing amazing. Ill soak it eventually but for now i like how stiff it is I give it a 9 out of 10 and thats because it makes me feel good inside I know you've been excited for this one, so I'm glad to see you're pleased. Also, glad to see the shop may be tightening up the production on these, those seams look ruler-straight. Look good DD. I believe I am an inch or two taller, so mine just might be perfect. This is how I expected to color to be, as the original swatch Gustin used looked weirdly light color to me. It looks much closer to the swatch on the LD site. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 22, 2014 12:42:06 GMT -6
Nah, one of my co-worker told me today that he had never seen me wear such an ill fitted shirt to work. The photo actually looks much better than the real thing because a lot of extra fabric is at the back. I am going to have my tailor to take in the waist on Monday. Should be good after that. Looks good from the picture, and I also think people have to keep in mind that these are supposed to be "work shirts" which means there has to be enough room to move around and do chores, like laying on the floor, and plumbing under a sink, etc. At least for me that is. If shirts are too fitted, then they bacome poser work shirts IMO. Just my 2 cents, although I know a lot won't agree. I need room so unfortunately I have to get my shirts fitting just like this one. It is comfortable for me when i have a bit of room especially in a work shirt. I means its gonna shrink up a bit so if I get some shrinkage ill be pretty happy with this shirt overall. |
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Post by davelewis on Nov 22, 2014 12:51:45 GMT -6
In reality, the only way to get one's "perfect fit", is to get measured, and do a custom, but then the variables come in play such as food, beer, exercise, etc. After getting your perfect fit, you then have to maintain precise size, and weight, which we all know is sometimes difficult. I myself, am much more comfortable in a shirt that is a hair large, vs, a bit tight. Its all about preference in the end. Buy what you like, wear what you want!
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Post by ickes on Nov 22, 2014 13:08:18 GMT -6
Dirty_Denim; my personal feelings regarding the GUSTIN WS and fit aside, I'm glad you're happy with it and that it worked out for you ...because as davelewis said, in the end that's all that matters.
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. However, I don't feel it is worth the price and I would never wear it socially.
It just doesn't look that comfortable to me. Waist looks like if you bend over it will bind, sleeves and shoulders look like if you bend more than 10 degrees the cuffs will be well above the wrists, can you even tie your shoes? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it looks "too" perfect... like all I could do is stand there. Looks great though... I guess I like more of a sloppy slob fit 
