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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 12:52:35 GMT -6
David, you seem to be well versed in what goes on there. Is the cutting processed done at the sew shop or beforehand at the company? It's all still very vague to me. Is everything outsourced or does the team take part in more than just finding fabric?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 13:53:23 GMT -6
@soaps to my understanding the core Gustin group has no part in the actual manufacture process...it being completely outsourced to their sew shop(s). i would speculate that josh and maybe stephen were initially hands on with the design elements of the jeans and probably their oxfords as well. as time has moved on and additional products introduced it's hard to say how hands on (other than fabric selection) they are. some of the new products are amazingly similar to other brands' designs from a few seasons ago, so there has been some questioning if G acquired those designs directly. it's probably not something that will be directly answered any time in the near future.
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Post by brentkuz on Nov 19, 2014 16:03:17 GMT -6
I don't think Gusin ever proclaimed they are a workwear brand. I remember them saying they like making clothing they like to wear.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 16:39:21 GMT -6
I am putting my Wabisabi Workshirt in regular Medium on BST. Please email me at wils8800 at Gmail dot com if you are interested. I can still change the address and will ship directly to you by Gustin. I am selling it at my cost ($140).
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Post by davelewis on Nov 20, 2014 16:56:21 GMT -6
I don't think Gusin ever proclaimed they are a workwear brand. I remember them saying they like making clothing they like to wear. That is it right there. You can ask them to make stuff, but they do their own thing for sure. Once I got that through my thick skull, it bacame way less frustrating to just buy the stuff you want elsewhere. |
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Post by brentkuz on Nov 20, 2014 19:39:26 GMT -6
They make things they like and they like engineered garments. SF weather they don't need 24oz Melton wool Peacoats. 12oz flannels or chunky wool scarves.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 19:51:55 GMT -6
Postal HB shipping notification received. The birds are leaving the nest, guys.
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Post by jamesr on Nov 21, 2014 12:19:14 GMT -6
Japan Heavy Black WS is in the mail. Being in Canada, I've got at least a 7 day wait. Really anxious to see how this one turns out.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 21, 2014 12:26:59 GMT -6
PHB will be in me hands Saturday. Ill get some photo's up as soon as I get this puppy. Pretty excited to get it, i just hope I did the right thing by sizing up to a XXL...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 14:08:53 GMT -6
Fit picture of my Hickory Stripe Work shirt. Wash/Dry it twice and I think I get the maximum shrinkage out from it. The size is fine now except the midsection is still boxy. The picture looks like I have a gut but I really don't. Edit: Not the right color matching pant for the shirt. I am wearing my IH Wabash shirt today but that fit photo was even shittier than my already very low standard.... will need to retake that.  |
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Post by jockohomo on Nov 21, 2014 14:59:28 GMT -6
Fit picture of my Hickory Stripe Work shirt. Wash/Dry it twice and I think I get the maximum shrinkage out from it. The size is fine now except the midsection is still boxy. The picture looks like I have a gut but I really don't. Edit: Not the right color matching pant for the shirt. I am wearing my IH Wabash shirt today but that fit photo was even shittier than my already very low standard.... will need to retake that. Either you need to clean that mirror or wash those pants to get that nasty stain on the left leg out? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:02:23 GMT -6
It is the mirror and the team normally cleans the mirrors after office hour.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 17:30:41 GMT -6
@wils the length looks good now, but yes...a bit blousy in the waist
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 21, 2014 20:31:13 GMT -6
I think it looks great. A lot of these were looking real boxy because people were showing the shirt right out the box. Its raw fabric so we have to give it a bit of time to settle and mold to our bodies. Yes the lengths have been long but it looks like washing is taking care of that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 21:35:52 GMT -6
I think it looks great. A lot of these were looking real boxy because people were showing the shirt right out the box. Its raw fabric so we have to give it a bit of time to settle and mold to our bodies. Yes the lengths have been long but it looks like washing is taking care of that. Nah, one of my co-worker told me today that he had never seen me wear such an ill fitted shirt to work. The photo actually looks much better than the real thing because a lot of extra fabric is at the back. I am going to have my tailor to take in the waist on Monday. Should be good after that. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 21, 2014 22:05:21 GMT -6
Nah, one of my co-worker told me today that he had never seen me wear such an ill fitted shirt to work. I am going to take it to the tailor on Monday. I am going to ask her to take in the waist. Should be good after that. While I can't wait to hear how the tailor could not understand how such terrible things could happen to a fabric and how she's amazed you haven't sustained physical harm by being in the presence of a garment that could only have been sewn in the depths of Hell by Satan himself, and that you were late returning to work as an exorcism had to be performed to remove the rotten stink of the dark lord from the very yarn that the fabric was woven of, the pigment it was died with, and the thread it was sewn with, I think it's understood that you can't stand the shirt but kept it anyway. Honestly I still can't figure out why you didn't return the shirt since you loathe it so much and it arrived falling apart, nor do I understand why it's annoying me so much to continue hearing about how terrible it is and how everyone you meet can't understand how you would wear such a terrible shirt. Sorry I'm being a dick. |
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Post by ickes on Nov 21, 2014 22:33:25 GMT -6
good ol Dirty_Denim...I admire your optimism  ....but let's be realistic, they are ill fitting shirts for most body types. |
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Post by eczerwonka on Nov 21, 2014 22:53:26 GMT -6
Wow, I guess I have zero ability in judging exact perfect sizing because it look fine. I don't see how some of you can want a fit like that to be tighter. How the hell could you move? I like to be able to tie my shoes without it feeling like the back would split. My workshirt is still a bit loose since it really needs a full wash and dry but no way in hell would I think about posting a pic if you all think that fit above is the worst thing in the world. Crazy.
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Post by jockohomo on Nov 21, 2014 22:55:58 GMT -6
Nah, one of my co-worker told me today that he had never seen me wear such an ill fitted shirt to work. I am going to take it to the tailor on Monday. I am going to ask her to take in the waist. Should be good after that. While I can't wait to hear how the tailor could not understand how such terrible things could happen to a fabric and how she's amazed you haven't sustained physical harm by being in the presence of a garment that could only have been sewn in the depths of Hell by Satan himself, and that you were late returning to work as an exorcism had to be performed to remove the rotten stink of the dark lord from the very yarn that the fabric was woven of, the pigment it was died with, and the thread it was sewn with, I think it's understood that you can't stand the shirt but kept it anyway. Honestly I still can't figure out why you didn't return the shirt since you loathe it so much and it arrived falling apart, nor do I understand why it's annoying me so much to continue hearing about how terrible it is and how everyone you meet can't understand how you would wear such a terrible shirt. Sorry I'm being a dick. I could not figure it out either, until I put 2 and 2 together. wils is not the only one that I have heard of lately performing untold abuses against their unsuspecting Gustin shirt/jacket. I have concluded it must be some sort of initiation ritual to get into the "Gustin Friends Selvedge Secret Society."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 22:59:40 GMT -6
Nah, one of my co-worker told me today that he had never seen me wear such an ill fitted shirt to work. I am going to take it to the tailor on Monday. I am going to ask her to take in the waist. Should be good after that. While I can't wait to hear how the tailor could not understand how such terrible things could happen to a fabric and how she's amazed you haven't sustained physical harm by being in the presence of a garment that could only have been sewn in the depths of Hell by Satan himself, and that you were late returning to work as an exorcism had to be performed to remove the rotten stink of the dark lord from the very yarn that the fabric was woven of, the pigment it was died with, and the thread it was sewn with, I think it's understood that you can't stand the shirt but kept it anyway. Honestly I still can't figure out why you didn't return the shirt since you loathe it so much and it arrived falling apart, nor do I understand why it's annoying me so much to continue hearing about how terrible it is and how everyone you meet can't understand how you would wear such a terrible shirt. Sorry I'm being a dick. Nothing I can do if you think my shirt is a good fit. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:01:07 GMT -6
While I can't wait to hear how the tailor could not understand how such terrible things could happen to a fabric and how she's amazed you haven't sustained physical harm by being in the presence of a garment that could only have been sewn in the depths of Hell by Satan himself, and that you were late returning to work as an exorcism had to be performed to remove the rotten stink of the dark lord from the very yarn that the fabric was woven of, the pigment it was died with, and the thread it was sewn with, I think it's understood that you can't stand the shirt but kept it anyway. Honestly I still can't figure out why you didn't return the shirt since you loathe it so much and it arrived falling apart, nor do I understand why it's annoying me so much to continue hearing about how terrible it is and how everyone you meet can't understand how you would wear such a terrible shirt. Sorry I'm being a dick. I could not figure it out either, until I put 2 and 2 together. wils is not the only one that I have heard of lately performing untold abuses against their unsuspecting Gustin shirt/jacket. I have concluded it must be some sort of initiation ritual to get into the "Gustin Friends Selvedge Secret Society."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:05:11 GMT -6
Wow, I guess I have zero ability in judging exact perfect sizing because it look fine. I don't see how some of you can want a fit like that to be tighter. How the hell could you move? I like to be able to tie my shoes without it feeling like the back would split. My workshirt is still a bit loose since it really needs a full wash and dry but no way in hell would I think about posting a pic if you all think that fit above is the worst thing in the world. Crazy. Same pant with same shoes. This is a better fitting shirt. Btw, it cost me $30 more than my Gustin shirt.  |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 21, 2014 23:20:27 GMT -6
Nothing I can do if you think my shirt is a good fit. My point has nothing to do with the fit of your shirt. - The first time you unbuttoned the shirt, you mentioned one or two buttons fell off.
- I think you mentioned a crooked placket
- Yoke better than mine which I posted a picture of but not aligned, terrible construction all around
- Way too long and well over spec
With those complaints, instead of returning the shirt, you decided to wash and dry it on hot and cut your losses. After that, you've continued to say how awful it is. The fabric is terrible because it shows washer fades and bleeding, more buttons falling off, continued terrible fit, further complaints about workmanship. To date, you've implied that instead of notifying Gustin of your problems with the shirt, you continue to talk about how terrible the Gustin workshirt is. I'm not trying to be a jerk, or attack you personally, but I think it might be time to take your own advice and quit whining about the fit problems with your shirt. Now you're talking about how everybody else you encounter can't believe how terrible the shirt is. We get it. People that have had problems such as yours have reported their issues to Gustin, and been reimbursed for repair charges, received exchanges, returns for credit, returns for refunds, pretty much any other solution you can think of. The reason your complaints about the shirt are exasperating is that you make them with no hope or intent of resolution, rather to communicate how terrible Gustin is for even selling this thing or having the nerve to put it in an envelope and ship it to you. This is the first run of a new product, with a new sew-shop, and a new fit. Gustin ran samples, we've seen pictures of them, so it seems that they've done testing, but how much? No idea. I am so incredibly frustrated with Gustin and the QC issues that so many people here have seen. I don't keep that a secret. Their vendor just cut the goddam selvedge ID off of a shirt that I was pretty damned excited for, and they've offered me a solution I'm not pleased with. So now I'm going to go back and let them know I don't think it's satisfactory. If they give me the finger, then I'm done, if they make it better, then I'll continue supporting them. If they don't make it right, though, I'm not going to spend the next six months talking about how awful they are. |
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Post by eczerwonka on Nov 21, 2014 23:22:08 GMT -6
Well I suppose that looks like a perfect fit then  It just doesn't look that comfortable to me. Waist looks like if you bend over it will bind, sleeves and shoulders look like if you bend more than 10 degrees the cuffs will be well above the wrists, can you even tie your shoes? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it looks "too" perfect... like all I could do is stand there. Looks great though... I guess I like more of a sloppy slob fit |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 23:31:00 GMT -6
Wow, I guess I have zero ability in judging exact perfect sizing because it look fine. I don't see how some of you can want a fit like that to be tighter. How the hell could you move? I like to be able to tie my shoes without it feeling like the back would split. My workshirt is still a bit loose since it really needs a full wash and dry but no way in hell would I think about posting a pic if you all think that fit above is the worst thing in the world. Crazy. I think his post wash length and shoulders/chest seem fine, but from the photo you I think there's just too much fabric around the mid-section. I'm sure if you pulled on the rear of the shirt that you'd be able to pull it out at least 8" if not a foot from his body. I don't think most people need that much slop in their shirt to move around. But... that's why the stuff comes in different sizes and slim/regular cuts are offered... because everyone has slightly different preferences. |
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....but let's be realistic, they are ill fitting shirts for most body types.
It just doesn't look that comfortable to me. Waist looks like if you bend over it will bind, sleeves and shoulders look like if you bend more than 10 degrees the cuffs will be well above the wrists, can you even tie your shoes? I'm not trying to be a dick, but it looks "too" perfect... like all I could do is stand there. Looks great though... I guess I like more of a sloppy slob fit