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Post by exophobe on Nov 1, 2014 21:47:43 GMT -6
Was holding out on this til ickes had his, but it looks like there are some technical issues there. so here goes. Sorry for my continued lack of pictures. Hickory Stripe is here. Before I go into anything else, I want to say that I really like the shirt. Once I wash it, it will likely fit exactly how I need it to (can have an undershirt and a button down on underneath it), the construction is spot-on, the fabric is great (very similar to the Taylor Stitch railroad stripe I have, though starched and raw instead of soft and washed). I haven't run through it stitch by stitch, but this is a cool shirt. I can get over the throat latch, it's really not intrusive, though it will keep you from dressing these up. The placket is straight as an arrow, the stripes on the sleeves line up with the yoke, and I have to say they appear to line up all (at every possible perpendicular and parallel point) around the sleeves. I'm really not sure how to tell this story. I sized this, with the hope of getting something I could wear as a light jacket, essentially. I did this based off my experience with their Large shirts (most brands I'm large on the cusp of medium, Gustin I'm large of the verge of XL), and I also figured that if the shirt came in following the typical shirt sizing, I would never get into a large with a couple shirts on underneath. So it's wide in the shoulders, the sleeves are long, and it's probably a little bit longer than my waxed chore coat. Again, expected, and I anticipate a wash resolving these issues. If the wash pulls everything in too much, then it'll be a nice casual button down. That said, I read reports on the Gustin Community page that people are seeing these come in a bit small, so I pulled out the ruler, laid it flat, and got some measurements. The chest (just measuring across end to end and doubling as the fit guide says), and it comes to a little north of 46.5. The waist measurement comes in at right about 45. Shoulder, on the other hand, is exactly 19.5". Given the way these dimensions work out, it really seems to be hitting right in the middle of the slim and the classic XL. I didn't measure the back length cause I didn't have my tape handy, I'll see if I can't grab that before I get to washing it. | Japan Hickory Stripe - Classic XL | | Fit Guide | Measured | | Chest | | 47.5 | 47.5 | | Waist |
| 45.5 | 45.5 | | Center Back | | 31.375 | 31.875 | | Sleeve Length | | 36 | 35.5 | | Neck | | 16.5 | 17 | | Shoulder | | 19.5 | 19.75 |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 1, 2014 21:56:52 GMT -6
Man 42 and you are 168lbs. I'm 220lbs right now and went for a 40 in the TS Yosemite. What do you wear in Gustin shirts? I went 42 on the TS because the chest measurement was between the L and XL in Gustin, and it came in the right size, and continues to fit after a wash. The L Gustin shirts I've received are a little bit too tight in the chest (get slight pulling at the buttons), so that's what's influencing my decision. As I mentioned in the workshirt overview I just posted, I mentioned that Gustin pushes me to L/XL, where in most brands, I'm closer to an M/L. I could go 40 in the Taylor Stitch, but then I think it'd be close ot the Gustin L fit, and I prefer to have my upper body a bit less constricted, and I'm filling out the shoulders so it works for me. |
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Post by brentkuz on Nov 1, 2014 22:26:39 GMT -6
I went 40 for the Yosemite. Gustin I'm a large and it fits fine problem is some fabrics like organic chambray shrunk to a 43.5" chest. That's my issue is shrinkage or potential shrinkage. I also went lawless large for the denim western shirt.
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Post by brentkuz on Nov 1, 2014 22:27:24 GMT -6
Oh an Jcrew I'm a medium for shirts.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 1, 2014 23:42:02 GMT -6
SO far I havent heard any real negative things about the G WS's but I also havent heard any screaming buys. I think that will all change with the Postal HB, Wabi Sabi & the Cone 101. From what I have seen only 1 backer had a bad fit & everyone else who posted photo's looked good to me minus the need to do a soak for some shrinkage.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 0:25:35 GMT -6
SO far I havent heard any real negative things about the G WS's but I also havent heard any screaming buys. I think that will all change with the Postal HB, Wabi Sabi & the Cone 101. From what I have seen only 1 backer had a bad fit & everyone else who posted photo's looked good to me minus the need to do a soak for some shrinkage. Mine is exactly what I was expecting. I'm going to say it's too long for wear as a regular shirt, but that's not what I bought this one for. Since it's raw (right?), I'm expecting that shrink will also affect the length, and at that point I think it will easily become my favorite light jacket (the lack of wax allows it to be more versatile than the waxed chore coat). As a shirt (instead of jacket), I think the length would be a problem, but I'm probably around six weeks from having that brown x black, so I'll have to deal with that at that point. It is a beautiful shirt, definitely a step above my previous Gustin shirts. I love the fabric, the craftsmanship is top notch (seriously, I was surprised with the fabric alignment at the seams, spot-on), the white thread on the hickory stripe fabric is a really cool look, and I'm happy with it. If this continues through the postal and wabisabi, these are going to be easy for Gustin to sell. If it were my design, I'd probably shorten leave everything exactly the same, but I would take about 1.25" off the overall length (without pulling the gussets further up the body). |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 0:36:12 GMT -6
That said, it didn't convince me I need the Indigo Wool/Denim workshirt, even though I'm confident it will be awesome. If it was pushing 14-18 oz I think it'd make a spectacular jacket in the workshirt cut.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 2, 2014 0:39:58 GMT -6
Yes I think with Gustin making these shirts a bit to long was compounded by an even longer shirt than expected. If i wear a shirt out i almost like it to the point where it is short but that is my own thing. If mine comes in long i will simply soak it & wash it & dry it till its good. I took the XXL so I can get all the other measurements to be bigger than I wanted so I could do the soak/wash to shrink the length without ending with a tight shirt from left to right
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 0:53:32 GMT -6
Yes I think with Gustin making these shirts a bit to long was compounded by an even longer shirt than expected. If i wear a shirt out i almost like it to the point where it is short but that is my own thing. If mine comes in long i will simply soak it & wash it & dry it till its good. I took the XXL so I can get all the other measurements to be bigger than I wanted so I could do the soak/wash to shrink the length without ending with a tight shirt from left to right The plus side to the length is that I have no doubt I could tuck this shirt in and have it stay there all day, but with how I've sized it, I'd literally be tucking in a light jacket. I'm interested to see what's going on with ickes' large shirts, since I'd like to see some more data on the "coming in small" thing. It seems weird to me that this problem is following every single Gustin product around like a lost puppy, especially with these workshirts coming out of a different shop, and the design meaning a different pattern would have been required. POST 200! |
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Post by ickes on Nov 2, 2014 1:27:54 GMT -6
I will measure my shirt Monday but as of right now I am very unhappy to see these shirts coming in 1"-1.5" under spec in the chest. For that to pass QC is completely unacceptable. This again indicates that there is absolutely no QC at Gustin.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 1:48:29 GMT -6
I will measure my shirt Monday but as of right now I am very unhappy to see these shirts coming in 1"-1.5" under spec in the chest. For that to pass QC is completely unacceptable. This again indicates that there is absolutely no QC at Gustin. Had I been counting on it hitting that to fit, I'd be pretty upset, but it sort of works in my favor due to my ordering strategy. As it is, it looks like I should be going back and measuring my other Gustin shirts, cause there's no way those are right, having gone and measured this one. I'm just having a heck of a time determining how this problem is following every single Gustin product but the leathergoods. Since the workshirts apparently came from a different shop from the other shirts, it really starts to look like the problem is somewhere other than the production shops. It's the inconsistency in the variations that seem to indicate the issue lies in the sew-shops. It really seems like the people that have no issue with Gustin sizing are those that purposely order the size above what they need. |
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Post by jamesr on Nov 2, 2014 8:41:42 GMT -6
I am hoping mine is under spec by a little. Especially after seeing one of the fit pics where the shirt looked way too big.
Mine hasn't shipped yet (Japan Heavy Black) and when it does I will have around a 10-day wait (shipping to Canada). Anxious to try it on.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 2, 2014 15:31:14 GMT -6
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Post by jeffrx on Nov 2, 2014 15:34:33 GMT -6
I think the wabisabi is going to be the holy grail of Gustin workshirts. All the stuff we are seeing now is just an appetizer.
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Post by ickes on Nov 2, 2014 15:37:41 GMT -6
oh my god....eff me....is that the WabiSabi fabric Dirty_Denim? |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 2, 2014 15:43:02 GMT -6
oh my god....eff me....is that the WabiSabi fabric Dirty_Denim? Yes but by a guy I know from the Iron Heart forum. I own a shirt from him so I was checking out his recent stuff & saw he had the wabi sabi. This is brown though & the G fabric is def different in color |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 15:51:18 GMT -6
I wanna say thank you to Dirty for providing pictures of this fabric either on its own or WITHOUT yellow shirts in yellow rooms, cause I was feeling a bit sick after that yellow shirt incident. I'm still not convinced that's the same fabric, but I am looking forward to the Wabisabi again after the additional pictures.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 2, 2014 15:54:52 GMT -6
I wanna say thank you to Dirty for providing pictures of this fabric either on its own or WITHOUT yellow shirts in yellow rooms, cause I was feeling a bit sick after that yellow shirt incident. I'm still not convinced that's the same fabric, but I am looking forward to the Wabisabi again after the additional pictures. Thank you! I spend a lot of time looking at designs & fabric allll daaayyy. Its kind of a obsessive kind of thing for me It is def the same and here is the proof.  EVO OF THE FABRIC  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 15:58:35 GMT -6
I wanna say thank you to Dirty for providing pictures of this fabric either on its own or WITHOUT yellow shirts in yellow rooms, cause I was feeling a bit sick after that yellow shirt incident. I'm still not convinced that's the same fabric, but I am looking forward to the Wabisabi again after the additional pictures. Look exactly what i thought. Love it..if it fits. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 16:10:31 GMT -6
I've gotta eat some crow here, fellas. Moral of the story, use a measuring tape, not a ruler.
I updated my measurements, and I have good news for those of you still waiting. After re-measuring everything with a tape instead of a ruler, I have to report that everything is in spec except the length (additional .5"), the sleeve (short .5), neck (+.5"), and shoulder (+.25"). Based on early wash reports, I'm guessing the length is on purpose. In any case, I hope this is an indication of what you guys are gonna see, and I measured everything twice with the tape to make sure I wasn't making it up. My table up top of page 10 has been updated.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 16:12:12 GMT -6
Thank you! I spend a lot of time looking at designs & fabric allll daaayyy. Its kind of a obsessive kind of thing for me It is def the same and here is the proof. EVO OF THE FABRIC And that one has me downright excited. Looks pretty darn amazing. |
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Post by ickes on Nov 2, 2014 16:13:23 GMT -6
yeah... Dirty_Denim I think that's the same WabiSabi fabric as the G one. Looks sweet!! |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 2, 2014 19:44:40 GMT -6
I've given it a warm wash, so once it dries (hanging now) I'll take some more measurements. It would be a thing of beauty if it came up exactly to spec, but we'll see. Probably won't be dry in time, but I'm looking forward to wearing it tomorrow unless washing it resulted in disaster.
ickes, if it was a disaster, I'll let you know. and if yours is a tragedy as well, then maybe we can trade on the wabisabi since you'll probably be huge by the time it delivers and unable to fit into the clothes of mere mortals.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 21:06:08 GMT -6
I wanna say thank you to Dirty for providing pictures of this fabric either on its own or WITHOUT yellow shirts in yellow rooms, cause I was feeling a bit sick after that yellow shirt incident. I'm still not convinced that's the same fabric, but I am looking forward to the Wabisabi again after the additional pictures. Thank you! I spend a lot of time looking at designs & fabric allll daaayyy. Its kind of a obsessive kind of thing for me It is def the same and here is the proof. EVO OF THE FABRIC Oh damn...that is fantastic. I am now firmly in the excited camp about my intoxicated purchase of the wabisabi....c'mon, fit! |
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Post by richieio on Nov 3, 2014 13:32:08 GMT -6
Hey guys, my heavy black WS hasn't shipped yet. But, when I get it, I will report back.
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