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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 16:11:20 GMT -6
Anybody know of a company who might be able to crank out a few pairs of jeans and/or workshirts if provided adequate denim? I'm looking at snagging a few yards of Nihon Menpu Kakishibu denim off the bay. You think this is something we could convince either Lawless or Gustin to do for us? Would any of you guys be interested in going in on this?
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Post by ickes on Oct 2, 2014 16:16:18 GMT -6
Contact Roman at lawless, he might be able to hook you up. Let us know what he says.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 16:21:54 GMT -6
Wisdom, let me know what you find out from Roman. If Roman is willing to do it, I am interested for a shirt and a pair of Kakishibu. That is one of the grail Japanese fabric... btw, are you sure that is the real thing?
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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 16:49:24 GMT -6
Actually, no.. I have no idea if it is the real thing or not. I'm not sure counterfeiting this type of denim would be profitable, though, so I'm inclined to believe it's the real thing.
Thanks for the leads, guys.. I've written Roman at Lawless and will see what he can whip up for us =) I'll keep you guys posted. -\Visdom
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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 18:03:30 GMT -6
You guys were right about Lawless.. Roman is totally hooking me up! I snagged a bolt of the Kakishibu fabric and will have it made in to two pairs of jeans and a workshirt. Now I just have to figure out how I'm going to customize them.
If either of you want to do it, you can probably do what I did: 1.0 Contact Roman and get the go-ahead 2.0 Buy the fabric 3.0 Have it sent straight to Lawless
..that's where we are at this point. I'm sure the next few steps will be paying Lawless and getting the garments customized. I'll let you know how this evolves! -\Visdom
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 19:31:50 GMT -6
You guys were right about Lawless.. Roman is totally hooking me up! I snagged a bolt of the Kakishibu fabric and will have it made in to two pairs of jeans and a workshirt. Now I just have to figure out how I'm going to customize them. If either of you want to do it, you can probably do what I did: 1.0 Contact Roman and get the go-ahead 2.0 Buy the fabric 3.0 Have it sent straight to Lawless ..that's where we are at this point. I'm sure the next few steps will be paying Lawless and getting the garments customized. I'll let you know how this evolves! -\Visdom Great info. How much fabric that you have bought?
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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 19:49:33 GMT -6
I splurged on the 10 yards available on the bay. There are a bunch of 3 yard lots available, so I'm guessing the supplier can put together another 10 yard lot, if any of you guys wanted the same quantity. Roman's guidelines for yardage required were as follows (quoting his eMail):
"I would need 2.5-3 yard for your jeans if your under a size 35 in waist. over 35" and you should send us 3-4 yards. as for the shirts x-small - medium we would need 2 medium 2.5 large 3 and x-large -XX-large 4 yard would cover it. We will send you back you left over denim."
I was thinking of getting two pairs of jeans and one workshirt. Since I'm a 30 waist and probably a small in the workshirt, I'm guessing this'll take anywhere from 7-9 yards.. the extra yard is rounding error and if I end up with enough fabric to do another garment, I might grab a backup shirt or something.
Ciao! -\Visdom
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 19:55:40 GMT -6
Thanks for the info. Maybe I should get 3 yards to get a pair of jeans out from it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 20:08:09 GMT -6
Btw, I am looking at the one from Samurai, I think it uses yellow stitching. what color you are thinking about?
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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 20:15:54 GMT -6
I think it's worth it (obviously).. the Samurai's are available in my size, but at $700+, they are way out of a price range that I can justify in good conscience. I can spend half that and get two pairs of jeans, a workshirt, and probably enough material left for another garment, to boot!
On the other hand, Lawless is somewhat untested and an unknown quantity. I like Roman.. brief, responsive, and descriptive. I see him as a total "roll your sleeves up and get dirty" kind'a guy, and these are the people I like working with the most. Trust me, I can throw an arc or tack weld with the best of 'em and believe it or not, I've actually worked gold mines (in Indonesia - Papua, to be precise), so when it comes to jeans and their intended use: been there, done that. In my opinion, Lawless will experience growing pains.. a disruptive business model requires significant risk.. and either customer service, quality, or speed will likely suffer. Fingers crossed that they nail all three, but I'm trying to set realistic expectations. If Lawless is listening, I prefer Quality and Service over Speed.. I think most customers can forgive slippage in delivery dates as long as it is accompanied by frequent, accurate, and genuine communication.
-\Visdom
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 2, 2014 20:17:35 GMT -6
Did you get your fabric from that guy up in Vermont? Looks like he's also got some jade green denim from the same mill available.
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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 20:21:44 GMT -6
Yeah.. classic or gold/yellow stitching will probably be my choice. I'm a button-fly kind'a guy, so I'm definitely going in that direction. I sent Roman an eMail asking for the information he would need and he hasn't responded yet (To be fair, it was after standard working hours in Phoenix.. I guess everyone's entitled to some time off from work =) ), but I'll probably go with a more tonal look (which Gold/Yellow would accomplish) since I plan to wear these as a version of the standard, lighter Khaki pants. -\Visdom
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Post by wisdom on Oct 2, 2014 20:24:02 GMT -6
That's the dude.. I sent him a message earlier today and he responded within 5 minutes. Seems like a good dude to do business with. Jade Green would be interesting..
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Post by davelewis on Oct 2, 2014 20:34:17 GMT -6
I agree, Roman seems to be willing to go the extra mile for his customers, and am anxious to try his shirts.
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Post by Derek G on Oct 4, 2014 14:16:00 GMT -6
@ Wisdom...It's awesome that Roman is doing this for you...How cool is that? This favor, plus the 20 jean give away, and the way he communicates with us all. It all goes really far in telling me what kind of dude he is. Even though I haven't got product in hand yet...I'm not worried at all.
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Post by wisdom on Oct 4, 2014 17:14:24 GMT -6
@ Wisdom...It's awesome that Roman is doing this for you...How cool is that? This favor, plus the 20 jean give away, and the way he communicates with us all. It all goes really far in telling me what kind of dude he is. Even though I haven't got product in hand yet...I'm not worried at all. Couldn't agree more.. he's definitely got his heart in the right place. He's dedicated to his craft and passionate about it, too, working on Saturdays.. we had a good correspondence going today over eMail about the Kakishibu project, and he's been nothing but flexible and accommodating. My only worry is that he's going to over-commit his resources and dates or commitments may slip. He knows his business better than any of us do, so he's best positioned to regulate his volume of work, but he must be drowning in work from the KS and all the buzz it, and the Gustin community, have generated. On another note, I think it's telling that so many Gustinites are attracted to the Lawless model. I think it's a combination of Gust-In-flation and reliance upon Gustin's judgment to define details that has made Lawless such an attractive option. I still think Gustin's gamified marketplace, super-lean supply chain, and evergreen selection of interesting products and fabrics will keep me interested.
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 4, 2014 19:24:54 GMT -6
I still think Gustin's gamified marketplace, super-lean supply chain, and evergreen selection of interesting products and fabrics will keep me interested. Same here. But they really, REALLY need to find a sub who can reliably sew in a f!@king straight line.
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Post by stinky on Oct 5, 2014 12:01:43 GMT -6
I still think Gustin's gamified marketplace, super-lean supply chain, and evergreen selection of interesting products and fabrics will keep me interested. Same here. But they really, REALLY need to find a sub who can reliably sew in a f!@king straight line. Is it just me, or do you find it odd as well that only about three of us are offended by the crooked shirts?
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Post by Dig Dug on Oct 5, 2014 12:22:22 GMT -6
Same here. But they really, REALLY need to find a sub who can reliably sew in a f!@king straight line. Is it just me, or do you find it odd as well that only about three of us are offended by the crooked shirts? I just wouldn't back anything that had a pattern. I sure hope the WS are done right. If the Wabisabi shirt is screwed up ill be out. I'll simply pay the $300 and get it done right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 12:25:20 GMT -6
Same here. But they really, REALLY need to find a sub who can reliably sew in a f!@king straight line. Is it just me, or do you find it odd as well that only about three of us are offended by the crooked shirts? i've only backed one of the shirts, and after receiving it am puzzled by how many people praise the quality of shirts. the quality of what i received wasn't worth $80+...there were loose threads all over the piece, some running under completed stitches, about 3" from the cuff of the right sleeve you can plainly see where two bolts of fabric were joined. the threads were easy enough to cut off, and since i cuff my sleeves the joinery is rarely seen...but this and the alignment issues you've pointed out will make me think twice before backing another standard shirt offering. i'm holding out high-ish hopes for my work shirt in progress.
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Post by davelewis on Oct 5, 2014 12:49:12 GMT -6
The thing I really like about Lawless, is that Roman is willing to listen to his customers, and step outside the box. Make us things that WE want. Gustin has said they like to make what THEY like to wear. Also, Lawless is quick to adapt, and make changes, where Gustin takes months on end to tweak things. I do get an awesome fit in Gustin's straight, but look forward to trying the Lawless relaxed fit. Has anyone actually gotten confirmation on their "free pair" from the 20 jean give away from the other night?
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Post by ickes on Oct 5, 2014 13:10:02 GMT -6
The thing I really like about Lawless, is that Roman is willing to listen to his customers, and step outside the box. Make us things that WE want. Gustin has said they like to make what THEY like to wear. Also, Lawless is quick to adapt, and make changes, where Gustin takes months on end to tweak things. I do get an awesome fit in Gustin's straight, but look forward to trying the Lawless relaxed fit. Has anyone actually gotten confirmation on their "free pair" from the 20 jean give away from the other night? Exactly....on all points. I haven't received confirmation but I received an email last week asking what inseam I wanted?
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Post by davelewis on Oct 5, 2014 13:15:09 GMT -6
Matt, I had sent an email stating waist and inseam, but at the time wasn't sure about denim, or fit. I was assuming that we would get something where we could nail down the details. I know he's busy and all, and don't want to bug him about it.
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Post by stinky on Oct 5, 2014 15:25:08 GMT -6
Is it just me, or do you find it odd as well that only about three of us are offended by the crooked shirts? i've only backed one of the shirts, and after receiving it am puzzled by how many people praise the quality of shirts. the quality of what i received wasn't worth $80+...there were loose threads all over the piece, some running under completed stitches, about 3" from the cuff of the right sleeve you can plainly see where two bolts of fabric were joined. the threads were easy enough to cut off, and since i cuff my sleeves the joinery is rarely seen...but this and the alignment issues you've pointed out will make me think twice before backing another standard shirt offering. I keep thinking that the guy whose name is stitched inside of every shirt would get embarrassed enough to do something about the QC, but so far, no. The Magenta Plaid pic on the store page is ridiculous.
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Post by davelewis on Oct 5, 2014 15:58:11 GMT -6
There should be a marked improvement in the new work shirts, or at that price, I think a lot of people will bail. $130 dollars is certainly cheaper than most of the Japanese brands, but still for that price I have to have quality.
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