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Post by wisdom on May 20, 2015 3:15:21 GMT -6
Same stories, different day. I'm shocked. I'm pretty sure that's just a tongue-in-cheek response that oatwilly concocted for kicks.. hopefully what we've been hearing, so far, about the RTW experience is the norm.
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Post by metals37 on May 20, 2015 4:20:30 GMT -6
So the RTW "sale" was supposed to last until Sunday, right? Now it's Wednesday morning and the sale is still going on. Either they got nowhere near the 500 pairs or they are completely inept at running a business. If and when the price goes back to $69 no one is going to buy it. We will all just wait until the next panic sale.
Based on what I've seen from picture on this forum, LD sees up really beautiful jeans (I have never ordered from them based on all the precaution of reading thru what you guys have been thru with them). It almost makes you wish you could take the obvious business sense of the G team and combine it with the jeans making sense of LD. *sigh* I guess all my denim purchases will need to come from CF in the future.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 6:39:48 GMT -6
So the RTW "sale" was supposed to last until Sunday, right? Now it's Wednesday morning and the sale is still going on. Either they got nowhere near the 500 pairs or they are completely inept at running a business. If and when the price goes back to $69 no one is going to buy it. We will all just wait until the next panic sale. Based on what I've seen from picture on this forum, LD sees up really beautiful jeans (I have never ordered from them based on all the precaution of reading thru what you guys have been thru with them). It almost makes you wish you could take the obvious business sense of the G team and combine it with the jeans making sense of LD. *sigh* I guess all my denim purchases will need to come from CF in the future. I wonder which is it? =p Not much has changed since KS LD. LD may make quality merch, but no one should ever pay full price for them. Romaine seems to care about seeing cash now at the expense of devaluing his brand.
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Post by oatwilly on May 20, 2015 6:52:26 GMT -6
Same stories, different day. I'm shocked. I'm pretty sure that's just a tongue-in-cheek response that oatwilly concocted for kicks.. hopefully what we've been hearing, so far, about the RTW experience is the norm. Yes that was a parody not an actual LD message, lol
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Post by univibe88 on May 20, 2015 7:21:54 GMT -6
Yeah they are slim straight. I also ordered slim taper a few days later. We'll see how those work out. Is the hem chain stitched?
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Post by toolonginexile on May 20, 2015 7:50:20 GMT -6
"I am truly sorry for the delay in your Ready To Ship orders. We had fully expected to ship orders within a 24-48 hour window as advertised, but were caught with our pants down by the overwhelming response to our 50% off sale. Thank you all for your understanding, patience, and support of our Ready To Ship line!" Your Friend, James "Romaigne" Avacado This is hysterical. Looks like another version of their wacky business model to raise cash. Ill be shocked if any significant RTW product is delivered in the next two weeks.....
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Post by julian on May 20, 2015 8:01:58 GMT -6
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Post by davelewis on May 20, 2015 8:42:20 GMT -6
Its such a shame in how Roman has turned what could have really been a dynamite brand, into the farce it is today. If only he would have had the insight to hire someone with some business knowledge, and experience in this field, and then let that person do their job. Such an opportunity lost.
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Post by bugula on May 20, 2015 8:57:01 GMT -6
Its such a shame in how Roman has turned what could have really been a dynamite brand, into the farce it is today. If only he would have had the insight to hire someone with some business knowledge, and experience in this field, and then let that person do their job. Such an opportunity lost. hmmm...he's been here before though. i don't know what mistakes he made with his past business(es) and hopefully he's not making the same ones again but maybe he thinks he's doing the right thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 9:05:35 GMT -6
Its such a shame in how Roman has turned what could have really been a dynamite brand, into the farce it is today. If only he would have had the insight to hire someone with some business knowledge, and experience in this field, and then let that person do their job. Such an opportunity lost. hmmm...he's been here before though. i don't know what mistakes he made with his past business(es) and hopefully he's not making the same ones again but maybe he thinks he's doing the right thing. He's clearly just doing whatever he wants, which is fine, because it's his business. But it is, as davelewis says, a shame at the opportunity lost for not having competent people help run the business. When Dirty_Denim was there, I always felt Romaine didn't give Sal the power he needed to make a real difference, power that Cody had when he was running CS at Gustin. If Romaine could give up some control to a competent business manager and FA/accountant, they could do some great things. But Romaine has control issues, and that's what's holding the company back from really succeeding.
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Post by matt on May 20, 2015 9:10:17 GMT -6
Its such a shame in how Roman has turned what could have really been a dynamite brand, into the farce it is today. If only he would have had the insight to hire someone with some business knowledge, and experience in this field, and then let that person do their job. Such an opportunity lost. You mean all the selvedge denim guys with a mind for the business like Lucas Cooper and Sal? Yeah, he gets them and does what he does best - he sticks to his vision.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on May 20, 2015 9:40:29 GMT -6
Its sweet and "roman"tic that he wants to bring a $35 priced jean from the 1800's but u have to do it smart and have everything in order.
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Post by Old26 on May 20, 2015 9:45:51 GMT -6
Its sweet and "roman"tic that he wants to bring a $35 priced jean from the 1800's but u have to do it smart and have everything in order. I think what he means is that if you had ordered your LD jeans in the 1800s, you might be getting them next month...
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Post by Dirty_Denim on May 20, 2015 9:47:53 GMT -6
Its sweet and "roman"tic that he wants to bring a $35 priced jean from the 1800's but u have to do it smart and have everything in order. I think what he means is that if you had ordered your LD jeans in the 1800s, you might be getting them next month... or in 1800 days. He is dyslexic (true story) so when he said 1800's he meant 1800 days
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Post by ickes on May 20, 2015 10:21:55 GMT -6
So the RTW "sale" was supposed to last until Sunday, right? Now it's Wednesday morning and the sale is still going on. Either they got nowhere near the 500 pairs or they are completely inept at running a business. If and when the price goes back to $69 no one is going to buy it. We will all just wait until the next panic sale. Based on what I've seen from picture on this forum, LD sees up really beautiful jeans (I have never ordered from them based on all the precaution of reading thru what you guys have been thru with them). It almost makes you wish you could take the obvious business sense of the G team and combine it with the jeans making sense of LD. *sigh* I guess all my denim purchases will need to come from CF in the future. IMO their jeans really are not that great at all, at least for the 4 pairs of straight fits that I have. The fit is just not good with an extremely strange rise and they were not made to spec per the fit chart. Off by an inch or more on some measurements. Their shirts however are pretty damn good IMO. I have three WS and so far I am quite happy with them.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 11:43:38 GMT -6
Their jeans were just OK. My IxI were what, $90something? I forget what the regular prices were. I like them only because I can wear them without a belt and my thighs fit, but all my new pairs are CF.
I'm kicking myself for ordering from Lawless again LOL. Going to wait til Friday for shipping, if nothing happens, I will ask for refund and wait until Tuesday/Wed, then go through my CC
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 12:05:22 GMT -6
Their jeans were just OK. My IxI were what, $90something? I forget what the regular prices were. I like them only because I can wear them without a belt and my thighs fit, but all my new pairs are CF. I'm kicking myself for ordering from Lawless again LOL. Going to wait til Friday for shipping, if nothing happens, I will ask for refund and wait until Tuesday/Wed, then go through my CC I don't get some of you people.
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Post by Old26 on May 20, 2015 12:32:40 GMT -6
Their jeans were just OK. My IxI were what, $90something? I forget what the regular prices were. I like them only because I can wear them without a belt and my thighs fit, but all my new pairs are CF. I'm kicking myself for ordering from Lawless again LOL. Going to wait til Friday for shipping, if nothing happens, I will ask for refund and wait until Tuesday/Wed, then go through my CC I'm kicking you too - in a finely hand-made pair of Gustins...
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Post by Dirty_Denim on May 20, 2015 12:33:17 GMT -6
I actually think what they produce is quite good. The issues they have are strictly a lack of QC. There just isnt any tbh. The jeans I wear daily are great. I love the slim straight fits a lot. The shirts are honestly up there with many of the higher priced brands. Id say LD is well worth the money charged and would be worth a lot more if and when QC gets fixed and some other decision making gets overhauled .
The only thing that bothers the shit out of me is a flaw in the way my shirts were sewn at the bottom of the shirts. Gustin also has this issue. Once washed and dried, the denim curls up and developes a denim roll effect. GOD I HATE THIS. I have seen this from other brands but not like the LD and Gustin shirts
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 13:03:33 GMT -6
I actually think what they produce is quite good. The issues they have are strictly a lack of QC. There just isnt any tbh. The jeans I wear daily are great. I love the slim straight fits a lot. The shirts are honestly up there with many of the higher priced brands. Id say LD is well worth the money charged and would be worth a lot more if and when QC gets fixed and some other decision making gets overhauled . The only thing that bothers the shit out of me is a flaw in the way my shirts were sewn at the bottom of the shirts. Gustin also has this issue. Once washed and dried, the denim curls up and developes a denim roll effect. GOD I HATE THIS. I have seen this from other brands but not like the LD and Gustin shirts Basically what you're saying is, in order to get a good product, you need to get a job at LD and do your own QC.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 13:05:02 GMT -6
I actually think what they produce is quite good. The issues they have are strictly a lack of QC. There just isnt any tbh. The jeans I wear daily are great. I love the slim straight fits a lot. The shirts are honestly up there with many of the higher priced brands. Id say LD is well worth the money charged and would be worth a lot more if and when QC gets fixed and some other decision making gets overhauled . The only thing that bothers the shit out of me is a flaw in the way my shirts were sewn at the bottom of the shirts. Gustin also has this issue. Once washed and dried, the denim curls up and developes a denim roll effect. GOD I HATE THIS. I have seen this from other brands but not like the LD and Gustin shirts i too have liked the quality of the products i've actually received. the chosen details weren't adhered to generally, but the construction was solid, as-is the fit...especially the 'new site' size guide (rev4.5?) slim straight jeans. the biggest issue i have with the shirt construction is that there appear to be no adjustment to number of buttons for varying sizes. so my M tries to squeeze in as many buttons as larger sizes and ends up with a button way too close to the bottom hem of the shirt
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Post by Dirty_Denim on May 20, 2015 13:21:26 GMT -6
I actually think what they produce is quite good. The issues they have are strictly a lack of QC. There just isnt any tbh. The jeans I wear daily are great. I love the slim straight fits a lot. The shirts are honestly up there with many of the higher priced brands. Id say LD is well worth the money charged and would be worth a lot more if and when QC gets fixed and some other decision making gets overhauled . The only thing that bothers the shit out of me is a flaw in the way my shirts were sewn at the bottom of the shirts. Gustin also has this issue. Once washed and dried, the denim curls up and developes a denim roll effect. GOD I HATE THIS. I have seen this from other brands but not like the LD and Gustin shirts the biggest issue i have with the shirt construction is that there appear to be no adjustment to number of buttons for varying sizes. so my M tries to squeeze in as many buttons as larger sizes and ends up with a button way too close to the bottom hem of the shirt This is because the sewers are not being taught about obvious things like this. For instance pocket sizes were all wrong. A size 38 waist was getting the same pocket that a size 30 would get. I am sure u all remember that. I got in the shop and quickly made that a must fix. Once i left the pockets went back to being pulled wrong lol. My own jeans have pockets that belong on a 30 waist at best. QC is completely absent. These are such easy fixes but the stress of getting orders out makes it hard to check every order. At the same time i feel it should be very easy to just put up a template for buttons and pocket sizes. I also was witness to wrong pocket shapes being chosen for the wrong shirts. Again having a template for each design at each station would solve this Another thing that would solve a lot is to better label denims as they come in. The swatch books are extremely important and should have been kept in order. These are such small and easy fixes that they were looked at as un important because they didnt have a value in that Roman saw no money coming in from these fixes. RTW will be a huge step in the right direction but the little things have to be addressed
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Post by Griffin on May 20, 2015 13:42:37 GMT -6
How about giving the dhirt a tug when wet after wash at the hem to prevent from rolling? Should work in theory and I usually do this, but have not had any "extreme rollers".
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Post by davelewis on May 20, 2015 14:39:27 GMT -6
How about giving the dhirt a tug when wet after wash at the hem to prevent from rolling? Should work in theory and I usually do this, but have not had any "extreme rollers". I do this also, and it certainly helps, but I think it becomes more pronounced, the longer the shirt hem , as it naturally wants to roll up from sitting down, and bunching up from the back of chairs.
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Post by Derek G on May 20, 2015 15:38:06 GMT -6
Yeah they are slim straight. I also ordered slim taper a few days later. We'll see how those work out. Is the hem chain stitched? Mine are chain stitched.
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