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Post by northcoast on Jul 16, 2016 16:12:21 GMT -6
These three nightmares are back for a mere $148. It's crime against the craft to use the word 'batik' and associate it with this random daubing.  I find these shirts oddly fascinating. Not really liking the price, but I've seen worse nightmares (summer popovers or the striped chore monstrosity). What don't you particularly like about it? I start with the idea of batik, which can be an art, so comparing this to traditional designs, let alone simpler ones of animals this guy down the street from me does for kids t shirts, these look like someone was just given a brush with the instruction of "daub". I just get an overall sense of tacky or like those sweaters that wealthy middle aged guys used to buy that were horribly ugly. To me this is the same sort of thing and screams "yeah, I paid too much for this ugly thing, and even if you don't know what it is you can probably tell that I paid a LOT for it". Something like that. |
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Post by matt on Jul 16, 2016 17:38:45 GMT -6
I find these shirts oddly fascinating. Not really liking the price, but I've seen worse nightmares (summer popovers or the striped chore monstrosity). What don't you particularly like about it? I start with the idea of batik, which can be an art, so comparing this to traditional designs, let alone simpler ones of animals this guy down the street from me does for kids t shirts, these look like someone was just given a brush with the instruction of "daub". I just get an overall sense of tacky or like those sweaters that wealthy middle aged guys used to buy that were horribly ugly. To me this is the same sort of thing and screams "yeah, I paid too much for this ugly thing, and even if you don't know what it is you can probably tell that I paid a LOT for it". Something like that. That makes sense. For a dotted shirt, some of them don't look that bad. But no, it's not $148 good. Even with 20% off. |
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Post by matt on Jul 16, 2016 17:40:33 GMT -6
In other news, the short sleeve Jack in indigo star is going to resurface in the shop online soon. Just received my shipping notice on this from a month ago when I was able to grab on that turned up online (turns out it was during the implementation of this new online store and it was an error). Got me some insight from Ms Hayley Chill, 20% off and an eventual shirt.
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Post by northcoast on Jul 17, 2016 10:06:57 GMT -6
That makes sense. For a dotted shirt, some of them don't look that bad. But no, it's not $148 good. Even with 20% off. Yeah, I'm not sure where TS model is going with so many of these shirts being near $150. It actually forced me to go look at RATIO's site again and make a note to get ahold of my tailor contact for a fitting consultation. MTO looks better and better at these prices. |
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Post by northcoast on Jul 17, 2016 10:10:59 GMT -6
In other news, the short sleeve Jack in indigo star is going to resurface in the shop online soon. Just received my shipping notice on this from a month ago when I was able to grab on that turned up online (turns out it was during the implementation of this new online store and it was an error). Got me some insight from Ms Hayley Chill, 20% off and an eventual shirt. Curious as to how this comes out. I was close to buying the long sleeve version but the collar stopped me from grabbing it. I wore my white short sleeve jack flower print on Friday for the first time and was really wishing it did not have a button down collar. Great fabric on that shirt though. |
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Post by matt on Jul 17, 2016 11:08:45 GMT -6
I will say that the short sleeve shirts thus far (I'm 1 for 1 with the navy floral Jack) have been on point. I've opted for the 38 in my Mechanics shirts and did the same for the navy floral Jack. As long as I take it to the dry cleaner for a press, and cold wash/hang dry here, I shouldn't see much change to the fit. Spot on for me. Excited for this new one to arrive to see if they are consistent.
And I would agree on the MTO considerations. I have only purchased 1 thing from TS sans 20% code. At this point, I need to create another email address to buy anything else.
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Post by exophobe on Jul 17, 2016 19:01:21 GMT -6
That makes sense. For a dotted shirt, some of them don't look that bad. But no, it's not $148 good. Even with 20% off. Yeah, I'm not sure where TS model is going with so many of these shirts being near $150. It actually forced me to go look at RATIO's site again and make a note to get ahold of my tailor contact for a fitting consultation. MTO looks better and better at these prices. Yeah I was just getting into TS as the price started creeping up. You have to get in on the preorder to keep the price at or under $100, and while they're still doing nice work they've exceeding the price I'm willing to pay for their goods. At this point, ratio and proper cloth are the same price but I get to specify details. I'm not really buying clothes right now, though, so it makes it easy to buy nothing. |
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Post by davelewis on Jul 17, 2016 20:05:46 GMT -6
That makes sense. For a dotted shirt, some of them don't look that bad. But no, it's not $148 good. Even with 20% off. Yeah, I'm not sure where TS model is going with so many of these shirts being near $150. It actually forced me to go look at RATIO's site again and make a note to get ahold of my tailor contact for a fitting consultation. MTO looks better and better at these prices. I've got a half dozen TS shirts, and really like them all, and were all had for under $100 bucks, and got one of the Highland twills a couple years ago on Last Call for something like $40 bucks with a discount I had. They seem to go in spurts, where like now, I haven't seen anything I like for some time. They seem to pick it up during the Fall/Winter, and can put out a string of winners. Lets hope so. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 20, 2016 21:27:19 GMT -6
I guess TS is dead to me. Chinos made in Spain now and Jacks made in Portugal. All with increased prices from when both were MiUSA. And the Hydes just suck, who wants a French placket?
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Post by scooter on Jul 20, 2016 21:39:20 GMT -6
I guess TS is dead to me. Chinos made in Spain now and Jacks made in Portugal. All with increased prices from when both were MiUSA. And the Hydes just suck, who wants a French placket? I'm with you. My last purchase was the Cone ISC utility. Nothing has spoken to me since. Although, I'd love to grab a charcoal California Everyday Chambray..... if only it were actually made in California. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 20, 2016 21:46:04 GMT -6
Haha, yeah, that one really chaps my ass. Is there a part of Portugal called California?
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Post by matt on Jul 20, 2016 21:48:22 GMT -6
Haha, yeah, that one really chaps my ass. Is there a part of Portugal called California? There is a Hotel California in Portugal (seriously, I just Googled this). Does that count? |
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Post by devastitis on Jul 20, 2016 21:52:31 GMT -6
I guess TS is dead to me. Chinos made in Spain now and Jacks made in Portugal. All with increased prices from when both were MiUSA. And the Hydes just suck, who wants a French placket? I'm with you. My last purchase was the Cone ISC utility. Nothing has spoken to me since. Although, I'd love to grab a charcoal California Everyday Chambray..... if only it were actually made in California. The British Khaki colored California made from Spanish fabric made in Portugal? |
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Post by northcoast on Jul 20, 2016 22:02:43 GMT -6
I guess TS is dead to me. Chinos made in Spain now and Jacks made in Portugal. All with increased prices from when both were MiUSA. And the Hydes just suck, who wants a French placket? THe Hydes suck, the Chinos have non standard waist sizing, and the prices are crazy these days. I like the Jacks and some of the workshirts, but won't be buying them at $150. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jul 21, 2016 7:55:22 GMT -6
Those new jacks are total dadwear. But not in a good way. Just peep the braided leather belt and stonewashed Levis the "model" is wearing. Yeeeesh.
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Post by devastitis on Jul 21, 2016 8:32:15 GMT -6
I like the grey and navy box. They just don't do themselves any favors with the models they use to show them. They keep missing in that department.
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Post by bentin on Jul 21, 2016 8:33:33 GMT -6
I like the grey and navy box. They just don't do themselves any favors with the models they use to show them. They keep missing in that department. Yeah, that one looks nice. For $20 less and not shipped across an ocean. |
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Post by devastitis on Jul 21, 2016 8:41:04 GMT -6
I like the grey and navy box. They just don't do themselves any favors with the models they use to show them. They keep missing in that department. Yeah, that one looks nice. For $20 less and not shipped across an ocean. with the 20% off, $80 is a great price for it. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 21, 2016 8:45:53 GMT -6
If it were made here, I'd use another email address, but it's not worth the trouble. I guess I need to tweak my Ratio sizing to just match a TS42 and start buying more from them. I need to check their Instagram to see what their two pocket looks like.
I wonder if TS has Costureiro Ponto (TS in Portuguese) set aside as their alternate website?
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Post by northcoast on Jul 21, 2016 8:49:12 GMT -6
If it were made here, I'd use another email address, but it's not worth the trouble. I guess I need to tweak my Ratio sizing to just match a TS42 and start buying more from them. I need to check their Instagram to see what their two pocket looks like. I wonder if TS has Costureiro Ponto (TS in Portuguese) set aside as their alternate website? If we could get Ratio to get a little more interesting in the fabric department. |
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Post by bentin on Jul 21, 2016 8:50:53 GMT -6
Nothing throwing some money their way wouldn't help. I've debated just forwarding them Gustin's more interesting fabrics and seeing if they can procure them and not turn them into a sad Escher.
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Post by nate001 on Jul 21, 2016 13:20:22 GMT -6
Nothing throwing some money their way wouldn't help. I've debated just forwarding them Gustin's more interesting fabrics and seeing if they can procure them and not turn them into a sad Escher. Just a note on Ratio customer service. I ordered a green madras shirt and the pocket was slightly misaligned. Nothing terrible, but once you saw it, you couldn't really not notice it, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I asked if I could get the pocket repositioned and they took care of it no problem. These continue to be my favorite shirts, followed by Gustin (as long as its a solid or a small pattern), followed by TS. |
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Post by exophobe on Jul 21, 2016 16:46:42 GMT -6
If it were made here, I'd use another email address, but it's not worth the trouble. I guess I need to tweak my Ratio sizing to just match a TS42 and start buying more from them. I need to check their Instagram to see what their two pocket looks like. I wonder if TS has Costureiro Ponto (TS in Portuguese) set aside as their alternate website? If we could get Ratio to get a little more interesting in the fabric department. If their storefront is still open in Denver maybe I should stop by to get measured wearing my monster twill and ask them when they're gonna get some of it. |
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Post by northcoast on Aug 4, 2016 7:47:45 GMT -6
Some really sweet expensive long underwear up now.
Athleisure market ahoy!
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Post by matt on Aug 10, 2016 21:54:19 GMT -6
Olive drab hbone camp pant is a nice new drop, and returning rover/field jackets are great change up from the recent. Maybe the velour tracksuit was to lull us all into a false sense of security.
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