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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 13, 2017 7:55:10 GMT -6
Not to mention, IH, SelfEdge and Heddels all have comparison tools on their websites..... Just leading the horse to water... That's all Guess irony in not your strong suit Try this, an Inch in the real world equals an Inch in the IH world? Thought maybe u had som kind of wonder system going on since everybody is so eager to point out the otherwise so obvious. Again, ofcours i i will take measures and compare with the chart, just wanted to discuss differences/similarities between the IH jeans and other jeans, ie 3sixteen/RgT. My bad i guess, u can all go back to one post a day in which you recommend taking proper measures, the amazing IH way /Boris Boris, pls don't take our responses personally. We can come off as snarky, but we're all pretty laid back guys. The advice given to you is the best advice and one that will help you down the road as you try new brands. It will enable you to figure out what works for you rather than rely on someone else's best guess, because that's what it amounts to...a guess. |
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Post by giles on Jun 13, 2017 8:06:03 GMT -6
"I'm 34 in Diesel, what size am I in IH?"
"Please can you measure your pair of Diesel the way we measure"
"I've already told you, I have a true waist of 34"
"Please can you measure your pair of Diesel the way we measure"
"Why do I need to? My Diesels are tag 34 so I know that I have a true waist of 34"
"I would really prefer it if you could confirm the actual waist size of the Diesels you are talking about. It's upsetting for all of us if we ship to you and they don't fit."
Some time later......
"Erm, so I've done that, they actually measure 38"
True story
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Post by boris on Jun 14, 2017 4:07:49 GMT -6
Guess irony in not your strong suit Try this, an Inch in the real world equals an Inch in the IH world? Thought maybe u had som kind of wonder system going on since everybody is so eager to point out the otherwise so obvious. Again, ofcours i i will take measures and compare with the chart, just wanted to discuss differences/similarities between the IH jeans and other jeans, ie 3sixteen/RgT. My bad i guess, u can all go back to one post a day in which you recommend taking proper measures, the amazing IH way /Boris Boris, pls don't take our responses personally. We can come off as snarky, but we're all pretty laid back guys. The advice given to you is the best advice and one that will help you down the road as you try new brands. It will enable you to figure out what works for you rather than rely on someone else's best guess, because that's what it amounts to...a guess. Why u lot presume just because someone, in this case me, is new to this forum equals new to denim? For the record i bought my first pair (The Swedish brand Pace)of raw denim jeans some 15 years ago and have been wearing it pretty much every day since. Ofcoure its up to me, wouldn't fore a second take yours or anybody else's word when it comes to what i need and want. As i said several times, was hoping for some input from someone owning the brands i mentioned and figured this was a good time to register, nothing serious just fun talking denim. So just chill and pls refrain from trying to educate |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 14, 2017 8:43:55 GMT -6
Boris, pls don't take our responses personally. We can come off as snarky, but we're all pretty laid back guys. The advice given to you is the best advice and one that will help you down the road as you try new brands. It will enable you to figure out what works for you rather than rely on someone else's best guess, because that's what it amounts to...a guess. Why u lot presume just because someone, in this case me, is new to this forum equals new to denim? For the record i bought my first pair (The Swedish brand Pace)of raw denim jeans some 15 years ago and have been wearing it pretty much every day since. Ofcoure its up to me, wouldn't fore a second take yours or anybody else's word when it comes to what i need and want. As i said several times, was hoping for some input from someone owning the brands i mentioned and figured this was a good time to register, nothing serious just fun talking denim. So just chill and pls refrain from trying to educate did you not read my response? I said, in the nicest possible way, not to take our responses personally and that the advice given to you was the best advice. You then proceeded to take my response personally. I've highlighted the above for your own edification. You just stated you wouldn't take my word or anyone else's word when it comes to sizing, but you inserted yourself in this thread by asking us to compare fits for you. Mind blown. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 10:46:30 GMT -6
My thoughts as well gaseousclay . boris you also state for us to chill and please refrain from trying to educate yet you come on here asking to be educated on fit. I also find it very ironic that you end up taking the sizing advice from the one guy replying to this topic who does not own one single piece of Iron Heart gear. Nobody was attacking you boris and we were all simply giving you the best advice. As pointed out before you had one of the damn owners of this brand on here giving you the same advice yet you still felt as if we were attacking you. Who is really being sensitive here? |
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 10:49:02 GMT -6
Will IH ever (or have they in the past) done reactive dyed selvedge jeans? My 9666zs are really nice but the one thing that would have made them perfect would be that. Though I had them hemmed shorter and kind of like having a few pairs that won't be cuffed. Also, is IH the only company with black wabash fabric? Can't find anyone that has it. I always thought those were reactive dyed, are they not? As far as I know they are the only company with a black wabash but I could be wrong. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 14, 2017 10:54:14 GMT -6
Oh that's right. I don't own IH so I couldn't fathom how they fit? They fit differently than other brands? They don't stretch out with wear? They don't shrink up with a wash? You guys crack me up and continue to push me away from this brand for many reasons.
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 11:01:25 GMT -6
Oh that's right. I don't own IH so I couldn't fathom how they fit? They fit differently than other brands? They don't stretch out with wear? They don't shrink up with a wash? You guys crack me up and continue to push me away from this brand for many reasons. so then this proves our point and we circle right back around to the initial advice he was given. I would think you would have caught on to the point I was getting at. You literally have the same information available that boris does. You looked at the sizing charts and compared the numbers to existing pairs that you own and/or sizing charts to other brands which is exactly what we advised him to do in the first place. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 11:03:12 GMT -6
The Iron Heart hatred is blind. Again, who are the ones that are really being sensitive here?
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 11:17:00 GMT -6
Yeah they're reactive dyed, but not selvedge. Haven't seen any that are both from IH. Ah...gotcha. Well in that case I'm not sure. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 11:17:45 GMT -6
Will IH ever (or have they in the past) done reactive dyed selvedge jeans? My 9666zs are really nice but the one thing that would have made them perfect would be that. Though I had them hemmed shorter and kind of like having a few pairs that won't be cuffed. Also, is IH the only company with black wabash fabric? Can't find anyone that has it. ??? ^^^ |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 14, 2017 11:24:01 GMT -6
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Post by nate001 on Jun 14, 2017 11:31:03 GMT -6
Will IH ever (or have they in the past) done reactive dyed selvedge jeans? My 9666zs are really nice but the one thing that would have made them perfect would be that. Though I had them hemmed shorter and kind of like having a few pairs that won't be cuffed. Also, is IH the only company with black wabash fabric? Can't find anyone that has it.  ^^^ I guess the question is this: Is indigo a reactive or pigment dye? My imperfect understanding is that a pigment dye doesn't hold onto fabric very well and is more superficial (ie, doesn't dye the inner fibers of the thread). Reactive dyes hold on tighter and are (usually?) present through the entire cross section of the thread. My guess is indigo is more of a pigment dye, but maybe through some chemical manipulation or longer dyeing could be made into more of a reactive dye. I've entered the world of wild speculation at this point. In any case, if a reactive dyed denim did exist, it would probably be a very slow fader. EDIT: Ack. Did some reading on Heddels. I see now that your jeans are black, which kind of makes my statements fairly useless. Move along. Nothing to see here. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 14, 2017 11:35:38 GMT -6
I guess the question is this: Is indigo a reactive or pigment dye? My imperfect understanding is that a pigment dye doesn't hold onto fabric very well and is more superficial (ie, doesn't dye the inner fibers of the thread). Reactive dyes hold on tighter and are (usually?) present through the entire cross section of the thread. My guess is indigo is more of a pigment dye, but maybe through some chemical manipulation or longer dyeing could be made into more of a reactive dye. I've entered the world of wild speculation at this point. In any case, if a reactive dyed denim did exist, it would probably be a very slow fader. I think you are actually right in your thinking at that was my understanding of it as well. We will go with that until we stand corrected  |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 14, 2017 14:11:33 GMT -6
love the edition of the IH outlet. sadly, no denim in size 34  |
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Post by davelewis on Jun 14, 2017 15:34:03 GMT -6
love the edition of the IH outlet. sadly, no denim in size 34 I think the outlet replaced the "sale" link. I also wear a 34 jean, and don't ever recall seeing anything on sale in my size, including shirts. Pretty cool though if you wear a size S, or have a 28" waist though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 1:30:22 GMT -6
As I was reading this, I'm thinking "Losers.... OF COURSE there is selvedge Super Black denim; let me show these simpletons!", and then I realize there ISN'T (In the current offerings), aside from the IHSH-166 Superblack 12oz Selvedge Denim CPO Style
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 15, 2017 5:55:34 GMT -6
love the edition of the IH outlet. sadly, no denim in size 34 I think the outlet replaced the "sale" link. I also wear a 34 jean, and don't ever recall seeing anything on sale in my size, including shirts. Pretty cool though if you wear a size S, or have a 28" waist though. You and I probably have the most common waist size in denim. |
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Post by giles on Jun 15, 2017 9:07:28 GMT -6
Will IH ever (or have they in the past) done reactive dyed selvedge jeans? My 9666zs are really nice but the one thing that would have made them perfect would be that. Though I had them hemmed shorter and kind of like having a few pairs that won't be cuffed. Also, is IH the only company with black wabash fabric? Can't find anyone that has it. ^^^ We have small amount of superblack reactive dyed warp and weft 21oz selvedge denim that has never been made into anything. I am currently sampling a version of the IH-101J out of it. I have a feeling that this will use up all that particular denim. If however, retailer demand for the black 10J is really poor, then we may have some left over for another project, so maybe we would do jeans, but probably not. Reactive dye can be any colour, we reactive dye loads of our fabrics. Wiki it for more info |
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Post by ickes on Jun 15, 2017 10:54:28 GMT -6
I think the outlet replaced the "sale" link. I also wear a 34 jean, and don't ever recall seeing anything on sale in my size, including shirts. Pretty cool though if you wear a size S, or have a 28" waist though. You and I probably have the most common waist size in denim. ad me to that. I'm also a 34 in most IH bottoms |
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Post by yinzer on Jun 15, 2017 18:30:09 GMT -6
You and I probably have the most common waist size in denim. ad me to that. I'm also a 34 in most IH bottoms And me. 33-34. |
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Post by hopsbreath on Jun 16, 2017 13:24:40 GMT -6
Just poking my head in here for the first time in a while; after handing out some "likes", I'll absolutely recommend simply taking some measurements from a favorite fitting pair of jeans and comparing to size charts for ANY expensive jeans manufacturers, not just Ironheart. It's not some uppity/snobby advice, just the best advice in my experience when shopping for clothes that offer size charts. That said, IH really does have some of the most precise size charts of any manufacturer I've come across. A few years down the rabbit hole now and my entire wardrobe fits much better than before despite only owning a single pair of IH jeans and single IH shirt. Be a better educated buyer; if you don't know your own measurements before plunking down $300+ for a pair of pants, you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
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Post by boris on Jun 16, 2017 23:20:24 GMT -6
My thoughts as well gaseousclay . boris you also state for us to chill and please refrain from trying to educate yet you come on here asking to be educated on fit. I also find it very ironic that you end up taking the sizing advice from the one guy replying to this topic who does not own one single piece of Iron Heart gear. Nobody was attacking you boris and we were all simply giving you the best advice. As pointed out before you had one of the damn owners of this brand on here giving you the same advice yet you still felt as if we were attacking you. Who is really being sensitive here? --------------------- Dont know in how many ways i can say this, my main reason for my first post was in hope of someone (preferable someone owning 3sixteen?RgT and IH) willing to share their experiences. I specifically asked for this. If you dont have any of these jeans you can opt not to answer, true story. I may very well misunderstood the purpose of this forum, i thought and hoped it was a forum for discussion not for a few self-proclaimed know-it-all sharing their knowledge in the art of measuring. Sensitive? Nah. Attacked? Pls. You take yourself way to serious (Btw, have bought an other pair of jeans so lets put an end to this farce) /Boris |
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Post by hopsbreath on Jun 17, 2017 5:26:50 GMT -6
My thoughts as well gaseousclay . boris you also state for us to chill and please refrain from trying to educate yet you come on here asking to be educated on fit. I also find it very ironic that you end up taking the sizing advice from the one guy replying to this topic who does not own one single piece of Iron Heart gear. Nobody was attacking you boris and we were all simply giving you the best advice. As pointed out before you had one of the damn owners of this brand on here giving you the same advice yet you still felt as if we were attacking you. Who is really being sensitive here? --------------------- Dont know in how many ways i can say this, my main reason for my first post was in hope of someone (preferable someone owning 3sixteen?RgT and IH) willing to share their experiences. I specifically asked for this. If you dont have any of these jeans you can opt not to answer, true story. I may very well misunderstood the purpose of this forum, i thought and hoped it was a forum for discussion not for a few self-proclaimed know-it-all sharing their knowledge in the art of measuring. Sensitive? Nah. Attacked? Pls. You take yourself way to serious (Btw, have bought an other pair of jeans so lets put an end to this farce) /Boris "But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood" Nina Simone already said it better than I, perhaps a little misunderstanding could be applied to everyone involved. If you truly want to "put an end to this farce" perhaps you can steer the narrative in a new direction. Like, so what 'other' pair of jeans did you get and discuss why you picked them? |
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Post by scooter on Jun 17, 2017 8:02:08 GMT -6
I wish I needed another pair of jeans. I'd be all over the PIH10ANT.
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