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Post by boris on Jun 12, 2017 11:30:27 GMT -6
What the guys said. Trust our charts and measure like we do. Anything else will be like comparing apples with oranges. Woldnt trust anybody who claims comparing IH with any other quality jean would be like comparing apples with oranges. Im sure you make great jeans using great denim but in all seriousness you are not the only one to do so. I cant see why it would be impossible for someone who have both pairs to campare 3sixteen SL or the Stanton cut with for instance the 666 18o IH |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 11:31:23 GMT -6
I'm behind the curve, lol. I only measure my clothes when I'm selling them. If I buy and they fit, no need to measure; if I buy and they don't fit, no need to measure.
When it's time for buying new jeans, I just reference the size charts for the pairs I have, and look for that.
Ex: I want a pair of the new PIH10ANT's... So, I pulled up the chart for my 555-03's and looked for whatever size has the closest resemblance to my 555-03 size. Hasn't failed me yet! Well, except the time I drunkenly ordered the anniversary PBJ's from R&H not realizing that they don't measure the same as IH... #EpicFail
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 12, 2017 11:34:58 GMT -6
What the guys said. Trust our charts and measure like we do. Anything else will be like comparing apples with oranges. Woldnt trust anybody who claims comparing IH with an other quality jean would be like comparing apples with oranges. Im sure you make great jeans using great denim but in all seriousness you are not the only one to do so. And i cant se why it would be impossible for someone who have both pairs to campare 3sixteen SL or the Stanton cut with for instance the 666 18o IH are you just being lazy? only you know what your fit is, not us. take your best fitting pair of jeans, measure them the IH way and then compare your measurements with the IH jeans you're interested in. should take you no more than 15-20 minutes. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 12:00:03 GMT -6
Does buying IH stuff change the way you guys measure time?
From unlocking my front door, looking six or seven places for where my wife has hidden my tape measure, to measuring my jeans, I can't see that taking more than two or three minutes.
I admit, I haven't watched the videos. Do they involve a sextant, a compass and a laser level? Maybe making a batch of gin fizz for 100 people? Get to work, you slow moving weirdos!!!
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 12:02:20 GMT -6
What the guys said. Trust our charts and measure like we do. Anything else will be like comparing apples with oranges. Woldnt trust anybody who claims comparing IH with any other quality jean would be like comparing apples with oranges. Im sure you make great jeans using great denim but in all seriousness you are not the only one to do so. I cant see why it would be impossible for someone who have both pairs to campare 3sixteen SL or the Stanton cut with for instance the 666 18o IH This in a nutshell, plus a thoroughly beaten dead horse, is why I own zero IH stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:02:51 GMT -6
What the guys said. Trust our charts and measure like we do. Anything else will be like comparing apples with oranges. Woldnt trust anybody who claims comparing IH with any other quality jean would be like comparing apples with oranges. Im sure you make great jeans using great denim but in all seriousness you are not the only one to do so. I cant see why it would be impossible for someone who have both pairs to campare 3sixteen SL or the Stanton cut with for instance the 666 18o IH You're unpleasant, and lack reading comprehension skills... The apples and oranges comment is talking about measuring methods. IH doesn't measure the same as 3Sixteen... |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 12, 2017 12:05:23 GMT -6
Does buying IH stuff change the way you guys measure time? From unlocking my front door, looking six or seven places for where my wife has hidden my tape measure, to measuring my jeans, I can't see that taking more than two or three minutes. I admit, I haven't watched the videos. Do they involve a sextant, a compass and a laser level? Maybe making a batch of gin fizz for 100 people? Get to work, you slow moving weirdos!!! In the case of the OP, it would likely take time since he doesn't seem to want to make the effort. All of us know our own fits and can tell if something fits just by looking at IH's fit guide. I personally take a 17" waist, 12"-12.5" thigh, 8.5" knee and 7.5"-7.75" hem. Based on this I can tell you that IH's 777's would fit me the way I like. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 12:08:37 GMT -6
Woldnt trust anybody who claims comparing IH with any other quality jean would be like comparing apples with oranges. Im sure you make great jeans using great denim but in all seriousness you are not the only one to do so. I cant see why it would be impossible for someone who have both pairs to campare 3sixteen SL or the Stanton cut with for instance the 666 18o IH You're unpleasant, and lack reading comprehension skills... The apples and oranges comment is talking about measuring methods. IH doesn't measure the same as 3Sixteen... Aside from the thigh measurement location, is there anything about measurements that any company can make? Ignoring the goofball 360 Denimio thing, that is. They're jeans, cut with a straight selvedge on one side. There's only so much you can do here. IH isn't making something that bends space time (well, given measurement times, maybe they are) or requires calculus. This fancy group is amusingly defensive and standoffish to newbies. If I didn't know better, I'd think you guys were protecting a limited resource. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 12, 2017 12:19:56 GMT -6
jesus this is getting a little crazy lol...
What I think the main point being made here is...at least in my mind...is that IH has a separate fit guide for every single item and that does make a difference as there will be slight (sometimes much larger than slight) differences from one denim fabric to the next even though it is the same cut. For example, the 633 18oz OD's that SE sells are a tighter overall fit than most other fabrics in the 633 cut because of the OD process done to the fabric. The 666 19oz Lefty's have a much lower front and rear rise than every other fabric in the 666 cut that I have looked at. When you take both of these into consideration it will affect which size you will need to order.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:28:35 GMT -6
You're unpleasant, and lack reading comprehension skills... The apples and oranges comment is talking about measuring methods. IH doesn't measure the same as 3Sixteen... Aside from the thigh measurement location, is there anything about measurements that any company can make? Ignoring the goofball 360 Denimio thing, that is. They're jeans, cut with a straight selvedge on one side. There's only so much you can do here. IH isn't making something that bends space time (well, given measurement times, maybe they are) or requires calculus. This fancy group is amusingly defensive and standoffish to newbies. If I didn't know better, I'd think you guys were protecting a limited resource. The "new guy" came to the IH thread to ask advice from the people who buy lots of IH..... He got SOLID advice from us, AND one of the owners, lol. Now, if the guy refuses advice from the frickin' OWNER, he's "unhelpable", as far as I'm concerned.... But, the REAL confusion came when you, who just proclaimed that you own 0 IH items for various reasons, interjected with opinions and snarky comments. What helpful information do you have to add here? |
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Post by boris on Jun 12, 2017 12:30:17 GMT -6
Woldnt trust anybody who claims comparing IH with any other quality jean would be like comparing apples with oranges. Im sure you make great jeans using great denim but in all seriousness you are not the only one to do so. I cant see why it would be impossible for someone who have both pairs to campare 3sixteen SL or the Stanton cut with for instance the 666 18o IH You're unpleasant, and lack reading comprehension skills... The apples and oranges comment is talking about measuring methods. IH doesn't measure the same as 3Sixteen... I may lack english skills, u prefer swedish? Since its my native tongue i know i do but doubt ur comprehension skills... Before I try to comprehend the IH sizing chart, what does 1 inch in IH convert to in real world? |
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Post by boris on Jun 12, 2017 12:34:25 GMT -6
C'mon Bentin, lol! Takes a couple minutes to measure a pair of jeans Bro... 30mins to 1hr to take those numbers and compare them to 20 different size charts I've measured all of my jeans. But I've washed nearly all of them and certainly worn all of them since then, so those previous measurements are now meaningless. Oh, the horror! I think the short answer here is that RgT Stantons fall between the 633 and 634 cut, but generally closer to 633. If I were hypothetically coveting a set of the 14oz OD, they'd be the 633s. Thank you! Think i go with one of the above. The only question left is, do you get this(as the answers indicate) stuck up wearing IH or is it just stuck up ppl bying IH? |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 12, 2017 12:36:34 GMT -6
If I didn't know better, I'd think you guys were protecting a limited resource. when those ltd edition IH jeans with the leather patch made from unicorn scrotum gets released i'm first in line |
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Post by nate001 on Jun 12, 2017 12:56:55 GMT -6
The sizing charts on the IH UK website allows you to switch between inches and cm.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 12:59:32 GMT -6
Not to mention, IH, SelfEdge and Heddels all have comparison tools on their websites.....
Just leading the horse to water... That's all
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Post by nate001 on Jun 12, 2017 13:06:52 GMT -6
It would be nice if more jeans makers would have a brief description of the different cuts they offer somewhere on their website. I know some brands do this and I find it helpful when they do. IH UK is one of them (just click on jeans styles at the top of the home page). For example, if I know some particular cut is a straight leg, I won't waste my time looking at the size chart initially and I'll go straight to the slim taper cuts. While IH has a bunch of different cuts with interesting denims, I think a newcomer might feel a bit intimated by the alphabet soup of numbers and letters that designate the particular style. Hopefully this can help them find the way when they are starting out...at least until they become incorrigible forum members.
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 12, 2017 13:23:14 GMT -6
I wished there was a universal measuring system that all jeans makers used so as to avoid confusion. Of course, I'm mainly talking about thigh and knee measurements
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Post by gaseousclay on Jun 12, 2017 13:25:10 GMT -6
But back on topic. I only just noticed that IH has the 777 14oz OD on their site. measurements come close to the 633 OD from SE
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 13:26:52 GMT -6
Aside from the thigh measurement location, is there anything about measurements that any company can make? Ignoring the goofball 360 Denimio thing, that is. They're jeans, cut with a straight selvedge on one side. There's only so much you can do here. IH isn't making something that bends space time (well, given measurement times, maybe they are) or requires calculus. This fancy group is amusingly defensive and standoffish to newbies. If I didn't know better, I'd think you guys were protecting a limited resource. The "new guy" came to the IH thread to ask advice from the people who buy lots of IH..... He got SOLID advice from us, AND one of the owners, lol. Now, if the guy refuses advice from the frickin' OWNER, he's "unhelpable", as far as I'm concerned.... But, the REAL confusion came when you, who just proclaimed that you own 0 IH items for various reasons, interjected with opinions and snarky comments. What helpful information do you have to add here? Just that together, we can make a slow forum come back to life. |
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Post by nate001 on Jun 12, 2017 13:36:11 GMT -6
The "new guy" came to the IH thread to ask advice from the people who buy lots of IH..... He got SOLID advice from us, AND one of the owners, lol. Now, if the guy refuses advice from the frickin' OWNER, he's "unhelpable", as far as I'm concerned.... But, the REAL confusion came when you, who just proclaimed that you own 0 IH items for various reasons, interjected with opinions and snarky comments. What helpful information do you have to add here? Just that together, we can make a slow forum come back to life. He makes a good point. We've been going along here for a week or two with under 10 posts a day. Look at the overwhelming number of posts just today. We just need to make more controversial statements. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 13:41:53 GMT -6
If you guys can lower your extra heavy red selvedge pitchforks long enough to read this, the guy asked for a fit similar to another brand's fit. It's not an uncommon thing; back when his place still had volume, 'how does the fit compare to G Slim or G Straight' was an hourly question and most of us could answer it for a brand or more.
Most of us know the peculiarities of how one fit isn't exactly the same as another when you use a different denim or even run to run. Outside of Gustin and some of the really large companies, most US and Japanese companies list specific measurements for each jean, that's not wildly unique to IH or IHUK.
So just because a 633 (or whatever "fit") in 18oz might be a cm different here and there to a 633 in 25oz, you don't have to run or with extra special measument systems and Iron Heart uber alles before you could just say, x brand's XXX fit is similar to IH YYY fit. Or you could just keep being phallic imitations. Whatevs.
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 13:42:43 GMT -6
Just that together, we can make a slow forum come back to life. He makes a good point. We've been going along here for a week or two with under 10 posts a day. Look at the overwhelming number of posts just today. We just need to make more controversial statements. Sometimes it's all it takes. Poke the bear. I haven't even mentioned the obvious. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 13:45:12 GMT -6
But back on topic. I only just noticed that IH has the 777 14oz OD on their site. measurements come close to the 633 OD from SE Actually good to know, and something I'd not have learned without this forum. Thanks. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 12, 2017 13:50:47 GMT -6
Aside from the thigh measurement location, is there anything about measurements that any company can make? Ignoring the goofball 360 Denimio thing, that is. They're jeans, cut with a straight selvedge on one side. There's only so much you can do here. IH isn't making something that bends space time (well, given measurement times, maybe they are) or requires calculus. This fancy group is amusingly defensive and standoffish to newbies. If I didn't know better, I'd think you guys were protecting a limited resource. The "new guy" came to the IH thread to ask advice from the people who buy lots of IH..... He got SOLID advice from us, AND one of the owners, lol. Now, if the guy refuses advice from the frickin' OWNER, he's "unhelpable", as far as I'm concerned.... But, the REAL confusion came when you, who just proclaimed that you own 0 IH items for various reasons, interjected with opinions and snarky comments. What helpful information do you have to add here? Don't let me raise your hackles. It's slow, I'm not making fun of your wardrobe, you wear it well, and acquired it well. Someone asked a simple question and you guys circled the wagons and told him to pound sand. All I'm trying to do is nudge you guys back to being ambassadors and less like border agents. I'd like the guy to buy IH stuff. Or anyone else's stuff. I enjoy seeing interesting denim in the wild. In another world, I ride bikes. I don't like the brand Trek, but when someone buys a Trek, it gets another bike on the road/dirt. Doesn't mean I won't make fun of it, but it's great to have another person out there riding. Same goes for every brand on this place, it brings more people into the fold. Help this foo' out, just dumb it down from the highbrow shenanigans you guys enjoy, if possible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 13:55:16 GMT -6
The most diplomatic and helpful answer is the one that was given... Measure and compare. That's the ONLY legit way to compare ANY jeans. It's not a d-bag answer, nor is it talking down to him. When someone is talking about spending $350-450 on a pair of jeans, I don't want to be responsible for giving has-assed "this is kinda like that" advice, thigh they do have a "... I quibbles" refund/exchange policy.
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