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Post by exophobe on Apr 6, 2015 19:01:31 GMT -6
Are the IxB Italian? Those won't fade with a hydrochloric acid wash. They're the Cone IxB, but I think the statement is still accurate. I've cold-washed my JRI and they're starting to give up the goods, but I don't think they were ever crispy enough for anything spectacular. |
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Post by beeranddenim on Apr 8, 2015 16:30:07 GMT -6
I've found most of my sanforized denim to lose about 1" inseam from cold soak in hand wash cycle.
I cold soak all my new jeans
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Post by gaseousclay on Sept 30, 2015 5:32:04 GMT -6
I'm conflicted. I pretty much soak every new pair of denim I buy to get the starch out and to hopefully get some of the shrinkage out before sending them to get hemmed. My problem is I just received my pair of Japan One Sevens and I don't know what I should do. The heavyweight denim already makes them stiff as a board, so getting the starch out isn't really an issue. I guess i'm worried that if I were to do a cold soak i'd shrink them to the point where I can't get into them. For those of you with heavyweight denim, did you guys cold soak them before hemming/wearing or no?
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Post by bugula on Sept 30, 2015 5:56:18 GMT -6
i only pre-soak unsanforized stuff. shrink shouldnt be a huge concern for sanforized denim especially after youve worn and stretched it out.
i also only cold wash in the tub when absolutely needed so what do i know?
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Post by julian on Sept 30, 2015 5:56:35 GMT -6
For those of you with heavyweight denim, did you guys cold soak them before hemming/wearing or no? The only pairs I ever soak are unsanforized denims. If it's sanforized I never soak them. I find the starch effectively sort of falls out with a bit of wear. |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 30, 2015 6:18:24 GMT -6
I never soak just for hemming unless they are unsanforized. I just add some to the length, I want them to stack a tiny bit anyways (like 2 bulges) so aslong as you add some it should work. Im not that anal that I care if they are 0.5" one way or the other.
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Post by cellbitch on Sept 30, 2015 7:33:57 GMT -6
gaseousclay, I cold soaked my J17s the other day and didn't notice much shrinkage in the 36 straight. Got out a fair bit of starch and indigo. Saw minimal shrinkage based on fit, but I didn't take measurements presoak--I'd guess they shrank maybe 1/2" in the waist, but stretched right back out. They were pretty damn crispy when they dried and the top button was a little rough (not IH rough, but not fun). Wore them yesterday and the whisker/combs/stack creases set really quickly. I think they're gonna be a really good pair after a little love.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 30, 2015 7:42:09 GMT -6
Only unsanforized, and even then not always. My Skulls are unsanforized and they haven't touched water and won't until they stink. Then a cold tub wash. And when my denim touches water, it's only warm or hot when I really need some shrink. Otherwise, cold.
But that's just me. Not sure if it's "right" or "wrong"...just what I do.
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Post by julian on Sept 30, 2015 8:01:58 GMT -6
But that's just me. Not sure if it's "right" or "wrong"...just what I do. Best way. They're your jeans and you should do whatever you think best. While it's always good to know the 'rules', it doesn't mean you should necessarily follow them. |
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Post by variable on Sept 30, 2015 10:35:58 GMT -6
But that's just me. Not sure if it's "right" or "wrong"...just what I do. Best way. They're your jeans and you should do whatever you think best. While it's always good to know the 'rules', it doesn't mean you should necessarily follow them. And then there's the beating I give my Pima Fires: hot wash and hotter dryer. I will fade them yet!  |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 30, 2015 10:40:38 GMT -6
Best way. They're your jeans and you should do whatever you think best. While it's always good to know the 'rules', it doesn't mean you should necessarily follow them. And then there's the beating I give my Pima Fires: hot wash and hotter dryer. I will fade them yet! Walk everywhere on your knees. |
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Post by variable on Sept 30, 2015 10:52:56 GMT -6
And then there's the beating I give my Pima Fires: hot wash and hotter dryer. I will fade them yet! Walk everywhere on your knees. Hell no, the GF might think I'm proposing! |
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Post by gaseousclay on Sept 30, 2015 11:23:17 GMT -6
Walk everywhere on your knees. Hell no, the GF might think I'm proposing! or she might think you're groveling |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Sept 30, 2015 12:21:45 GMT -6
Hell no, the GF might think I'm proposing! or she might think you're groveling Same thing. |
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Post by kylepa on Sept 30, 2015 14:57:28 GMT -6
I talked to the guys at Blue Owl Workshop about this. They said if the denim fits like a glove or tightish, wear them for a couple weeks before cold soaking them to loosen them up a bit. That way they fit after the small amount of shrink a cold soak will get you. Removing the starch will help the jeans last longer since bending starchy fiber breaks it down.
I'm doing this with my RT x BOW expeditions and my DTBs right now. The DTBs in particular are super starchy.
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Post by bugula on Sept 30, 2015 18:38:48 GMT -6
I talked to the guys at Blue Owl Workshop about this. They said if the denim fits like a glove or tightish, wear them for a couple weeks before cold soaking them to loosen them up a bit. That way they fit after the small amount of shrink a cold soak will get you. Removing the starch will help the jeans last longer since bending starchy fiber breaks it down. I'm doing this with my RT x BOW expeditions and my DTBs right now. The DTBs in particular are super starchy. just to make sure...you know one of those pairs is unsanforized, right? |
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Post by kylepa on Sept 30, 2015 21:41:53 GMT -6
Yup. BOW didn't have a 35 waist, which I would have soaked right away and gotten a perfect fit. So I bought a 34 which fit like a beautiful, slubby, overpriced, indigo, unsanforized glove in the store but would have been too small if I soaked it right away. Another week or so of wear and they should be ripe for a cold soak and fit great.
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Post by bugula on Oct 1, 2015 2:23:54 GMT -6
cool - interested in hearing how that works out!
they tried to get me to do the same with a pair of their BOWxJB and it didnt make sense to me as i kept thinking thety would shrink beyond their needed tolerance.
now that i'm putting my expeditions on, i wish i had tried this. the stretch on these is fairly severe.
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Post by bugula on Oct 1, 2015 11:15:24 GMT -6
so uh...yeah...i have a pair of 34s coming to try this out. hahaha.
the 36s are just so dang big.
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Post by bentin on Oct 1, 2015 12:44:06 GMT -6
so uh...yeah...i have a pair of 34s coming to try this out. hahaha. the 36s are just so dang big. Whatcha doing with the 36's? |
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Post by bugula on Oct 1, 2015 13:14:15 GMT -6
will see if the 34s work and if they do...i dunno.  it's such a cool material i might just hold on to them. |
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Post by devastitis on Oct 1, 2015 13:23:15 GMT -6
Damn..now I'm tempted in grabbing the BOWxJBs in 33. I'm on the fence on those or the BOWxMomotaros 18 oz sanforized in 33 for my IxBs.
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Post by devastitis on Oct 1, 2015 13:24:38 GMT -6
I talked to the guys at Blue Owl Workshop about this. They said if the denim fits like a glove or tightish, wear them for a couple weeks before cold soaking them to loosen them up a bit. That way they fit after the small amount of shrink a cold soak will get you. Removing the starch will help the jeans last longer since bending starchy fiber breaks it down. I'm doing this with my RT x BOW expeditions and my DTBs right now. The DTBs in particular are super starchy. How long do you plan on breaking in your DTBs before washing them? Mine are super starchy too, and I didn't even consider washing them. But if they'll soften up, then definitely will need to try to soak them up. |
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Post by devastitis on Oct 2, 2015 0:14:09 GMT -6
so uh...yeah...i have a pair of 34s coming to try this out. hahaha. the 36s are just so dang big. Lemme know how it turns out! I'm ready to pull the trigger on a pair of BOWxJBs in 33, but I'm also looking at trying the same method on a pair of unwashed Momo 0702 IxBs. If it doesn't work, then it probably just wasn't meant to be. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Oct 2, 2015 7:12:38 GMT -6
gaseousclay, I cold soaked my J17s the other day and didn't notice much shrinkage in the 36 straight. Got out a fair bit of starch and indigo. Saw minimal shrinkage based on fit, but I didn't take measurements presoak--I'd guess they shrank maybe 1/2" in the waist, but stretched right back out. They were pretty damn crispy when they dried and the top button was a little rough (not IH rough, but not fun). Wore them yesterday and the whisker/combs/stack creases set really quickly. I think they're gonna be a really good pair after a little love. i'm thinking i'm going to forego a cold soak for the J17's and Blue 17's, simply because they're so dense. On a related note, i'm assuming most companies that offer chainstitching/hemming services can handle 17oz denim and heavier? I asked ABFits but didn't get a response. |
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