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Post by ickes on Mar 24, 2015 12:50:51 GMT -6
1/3 of the year ain't bad. No you don't have to leave but you are the minority. oh well, somehow I always end up being part of some minority ..... Hey me too drstrange, only it's flipped for me as I'm probably the only guy on this forum who does not own a suit! True story. BTW, you don't have to leave
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 12:52:57 GMT -6
I'm just talking from a "distinctive marking" standpoint. I don't find either of them garish or unappealing -- rather like them both, myself. The two brands, however, have an inherent exclusivity through their limited distribution, so you're not going to be getting recognized at concerts, but they're going to be recognizable. Nothing like JNCO jeans, though, so everything will probably be okay. Certainly not my intent to give anyone an anxiety attack over the embroidery on their back pocket. No anxiety here. When my wife (who is very brand aware) looked at the iron heart pockets (she new where they were from and how much they cost) she said "looks like something from k-mart". I'm cool with that, better than those are (insert any designer) jeans.
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Post by drstrange on Mar 24, 2015 14:13:44 GMT -6
oh well, somehow I always end up being part of some minority ..... Hey me too drstrange, only it's flipped for me as I'm probably the only guy on this forum who does not own a suit! True story. BTW, you don't have to leave I'll ad a flip: I'm perhaps the only guy on this forum not owning a "denim work shirt" AND not even considering owning one .... that again might be due to some cultural difference between Europe and the major part of USA ... in Europe those kind of shirts would look a bit odd (at least in urban areas) ...
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Post by ickes on Mar 24, 2015 14:17:27 GMT -6
Hey me too drstrange, only it's flipped for me as I'm probably the only guy on this forum who does not own a suit! True story. BTW, you don't have to leave I'll ad a flip: I'm perhaps the only guy on this forum not owning a "denim work shirt" AND not even considering owning one .... that again might be due to some cultural difference between Europe and the major part of USA ... in Europe those kind of shirts would look a bit odd (at least in urban areas) ... Oh, well....in that case, I'm afraid you have to leave now.
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Post by Mattbert on Mar 24, 2015 14:19:25 GMT -6
Hey me too drstrange, only it's flipped for me as I'm probably the only guy on this forum who does not own a suit! True story. BTW, you don't have to leave I'll ad a flip: I'm perhaps the only guy on this forum not owning a "denim work shirt" AND not even considering owning one .... that again might be due to some cultural difference between Europe and the major part of USA ... in Europe those kind of shirts would look a bit odd (at least in urban areas) ... No denim work shirt for me, either.
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Post by Winterland on Mar 24, 2015 14:40:09 GMT -6
Hey me too drstrange, only it's flipped for me as I'm probably the only guy on this forum who does not own a suit! True story. BTW, you don't have to leave I'll ad a flip: I'm perhaps the only guy on this forum not owning a "denim work shirt" AND not even considering owning one .... that again might be due to some cultural difference between Europe and the major part of USA ... in Europe those kind of shirts would look a bit odd (at least in urban areas) ... Sounds like the perfect place to be different from the crowd. Rock the denim. I would say go beyond a work shirt and do a western shirt. All in good fun. I think people should wear what they like and makes them feel good. With some good taste hopefully mixed in.
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Post by drstrange on Mar 24, 2015 14:40:29 GMT -6
Oh, well....in that case, I'm afraid you have to leave now. you're the moderator .... might I plead for probation? or at least a grace period (let's say, until my LD order arrives*)? * by then my sins are perhaps time-barred ....
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Post by drstrange on Mar 24, 2015 14:43:24 GMT -6
Sounds like the perfect place to be different from the crowd. Rock the denim. I would say go beyond a work shirt and do a western shirt. All in good fun. I think people should wear what they like and makes them feel good. With some good taste hopefully mixed in. Western Shirts would be worn here, but definitely limited to very rural areas (as a flip to traditional farmer clothes) ....
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Post by Winterland on Mar 24, 2015 15:40:42 GMT -6
Sounds like the perfect place to be different from the crowd. Rock the denim. I would say go beyond a work shirt and do a western shirt. All in good fun. I think people should wear what they like and makes them feel good. With some good taste hopefully mixed in. Western Shirts would be worn here, but definitely limited to very rural areas (as a flip to traditional farmer clothes) .... Where do you live? I think suits are very cool also. If I had opportunity to wear mine more I would. I can go downtown Minneapolis, Chicago and New York and see someone in a denim work shirt or western shirt. Yes of course people working manual jobs needing heavy shirts will traditionally wear work shirts and farmer/ranchers will wear western shirts. There is no rule of style though for people living in a free country unless your in jail. A few pictures of denim shirts. They are celebrities and I believe because of that they wear what they like, but we all can. [/quote]
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Post by drstrange on Mar 24, 2015 16:00:34 GMT -6
winterland: I'm living in Switzerland .... I'm not saying "work shirts" are bad or anything the like, all I'm saying is I'm not used to them and they are not exactly common wear where I live (which actually wouldn't be any obstacle for me wearing them) ...
from a very personal taste: the first two actors (Tom Cruise, can't recognize the top one) look ok in their shirts, however I neither like the shirt on Mr. Depp nor the lowest one (which again escapes me who that could be) ... but again, that's a very personal taste
again personal taste: I stick with dress shirts, the ones with checks (be it Gingham, Block, Grid or Tattersall) actually go well with denim (the only check which goes well with a suit is a Prince of Wales check in my opinion) ...
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 24, 2015 17:56:25 GMT -6
Don't get me wrong suits is what actually got me into style over all. At the end of college I wanted to get a job. So I needed a suit for interviews. So I got on the dappered forum and learned. One thing lead to another and I love jeans/watches/boots. And it was a natural progression.
Old navy distressed jeans, Gshock, timberlands turned to Iron heart jeans, rolex, red wings.
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 24, 2015 17:59:07 GMT -6
And the whole shorts thing. Maybe over in Switzerland it is a bit different. Same thing with Manhattan or other metropolitan business locations. I have linen pants and oxford cloth, seersucker. But I mean I'm not wearing them to a average bar on a Friday night.
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Post by Mattbert on Mar 24, 2015 19:48:37 GMT -6
winterland: I'm living in Switzerland .... I'm not saying "work shirts" are bad or anything the like, all I'm saying is I'm not used to them and they are not exactly common wear where I live (which actually wouldn't be any obstacle for me wearing them) ... from a very personal taste: the first two actors (Tom Cruise, can't recognize the top one) look ok in their shirts, however I neither like the shirt on Mr. Depp nor the lowest one (which again escapes me who that could be) ... but again, that's a very personal taste again personal taste: I stick with dress shirts, the ones with checks (be it Gingham, Block, Grid or Tattersall) actually go well with denim (the only check which goes well with a suit is a Prince of Wales check in my opinion) ... The lowest one is England footballing legend James Franco. The first is actor, philanthropist, and heir to the British throne HRH David Beckham, Duke of Cornwall.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 21:31:06 GMT -6
I'll ad a flip: I'm perhaps the only guy on this forum not owning a "denim work shirt" AND not even considering owning one .... that again might be due to some cultural difference between Europe and the major part of USA ... in Europe those kind of shirts would look a bit odd (at least in urban areas) ... No denim work shirt for me, either. I don't think I will do denim workshirts, or workshirts in general, either.
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Post by exophobe on Mar 24, 2015 22:06:20 GMT -6
No denim work shirt for me, either. I don't think I will do denim workshirts, or workshirts in general, either. That ixi that @untucked has makes me want one. My lawless chambray sort of suffices for now, but I'm loving snappy-shirts lately so it's only a matter of time before a denim western shirt lands in my closet. As far as traditional indigo with white weft denim western shirt, I sort of side with you guys. I think the major draw is in the way denim ages, doing things that traditional shirting fabrics just don't do -- like improve when wrinkles set.
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Post by ickes on Mar 24, 2015 22:21:56 GMT -6
I'm kind of with you guys. The work shirts I have coming from Lawless are denim but they are grey, black, and indigoxindigo so they don't have the look of a traditional indigo on white weft denim WS which I don't particularly care for. None of the other work shirts in my closet are indigoxwhite either.
I don't really care for the Western shirts either. I can overlook it if it's a flannel or a patterned shirt with a western yoke but other than that it's not for me, which rules out a lot of Iron Heart shirts. I've tried to like them and thought about buying some recently but I just can't. I don't know if it's cause I'm an Arizona native and as a kid growing up denim western shirts were always kind of "dorky" once you were over 5 years old, or if I just don't care for the style, or if my style just hasn't evolved to that point yet, but I just can't wear them right now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 22:25:15 GMT -6
I don't think I will do denim workshirts, or workshirts in general, either. That ixi that @untucked has makes me want one. My lawless chambray sort of suffices for now, but I'm loving snappy-shirts lately so it's only a matter of time before a denim western shirt lands in my closet. As far as traditional indigo with white weft denim western shirt, I sort of side with you guys. I think the major draw is in the way denim ages, doing things that traditional shirting fabrics just don't do -- like improve when wrinkles set. The only one I saw from Untucked that I wish I had ordered from LD was the tan x tan jacket. I haven't seen any pure workshirts that I felt I must have, from any company, because all the nicer fabrics I've seen, mostly from Gustin, are of a fit that just does not work for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 22:27:46 GMT -6
Aaron Rodgers and Matt Flynn, before the season, did a great job of scaring me off of indigo denim tops for the rest of my life.
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Post by julian on Mar 25, 2015 3:57:38 GMT -6
winterland: I'm living in Switzerland .... I'm not saying "work shirts" are bad or anything the like, all I'm saying is I'm not used to them and they are not exactly common wear where I live (which actually wouldn't be any obstacle for me wearing them) ... I'd agree that (US-style) workshirts aren't commonly worn in the UK either. I have a couple and wear them very occasionally but the only comments they ever receive are the, 'So, what's that then?' kind of questions - and that's rarely. I think it stems from the fact that British working class always wore shirts that, today, would be considered more like dress shirts. Even farm workers wore clothing that would be considered smart in our era. Jeans were never a thing in the UK as far as heritage workwear is concerned. 'Sunday Best' was really just the suits and shirts that were the same as those you worked in but didn't actually work in. As for Western shirts... no. Just, no. Only semi-excusable when worn as part of fancy dress or if you're a pre-post-ironic hipster with no access to a mirror. As far as shorts go, that's changed a lot over the past 20 years. I can't really remember too many people (males over the age of 12, at least) wearing shorts in the summer months back in the late 80s/early 90s unless they were playing sports or vaguely related to sailing. In fact, I'm fairly certain the rise in short wearing in the UK can absolutely be traced back to when air fares to the States became much cheaper (mid-90s) and people started visting places where the residents lived in shorts. I can remember my first visit to San Francisco and thinking everyone looked like they should be at the beach... yet were in the middle of a large city. It may not be overly edifying, but I also have a feeling A&F's cargo shorts were fairly instrumental in making shorts more acceptable to wear in this country. Personally, I've always worn shorts in the summer months, mainly because I don't play well in warmer temperatures so generally do anything I can to cool myself down as much as possible and also because I was into the skateboard scene from an early age and tended to gravitate towards classic American workshorts and then purpose made skate shorts as they became more readily available. I have a pair of mid-to-dark grey shorts by The Hundreds that I'd happily live in and never take off if I could get away with it. They're one of very few items of clothing that I will genuinely cry over once they become worn through and no longer wearable.
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Post by jamesr on Mar 25, 2015 6:49:12 GMT -6
I never liked Western-style shirts until I bought a few from Iron Heart. Prior to that for my brain to register something as a Western-style shirt it had to have roses embroidered on it and be worn with one of those... not sure what they're called... Texas ties? The strings with the brooch...
Picture that get-up with a cowboy hat and boots. Now that is what my brain thought when someone said "Western shirt".
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Post by exophobe on Mar 25, 2015 7:01:27 GMT -6
I never liked Western-style shirts until I bought a few from Iron Heart. Prior to that for my brain to register something as a Western-style shirt it had to have roses embroidered on it and be worn with one of those... not sure what they're called... Texas ties? The strings with the brooch... Picture that get-up with a cowboy hat and boots. Now that is what my brain thought when someone said "Western shirt". Bolo tie.
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 25, 2015 9:00:12 GMT -6
Bolo ties are awesome. Most NFL teams are making players wear long sleeve shirts and ties now. A lot of the players are rocking denim shirts with bolo to stay in the rules but have fun.
Philip Rivers did it too.
Love it.
I never liked western shirts or denim shirts. Until I met you guys. Thanks online jean friends.
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Post by ickes on Mar 25, 2015 10:09:45 GMT -6
I think for me it's part of the region I grew up in. Back in the day growing up I would go to friends quinceaneras in predominantly Hispanic neighborhoods and I would literally be the only "white boy" there. I'm talking huge parties in a ranch house on some acreages and you'd have about 100 vaqueros/caballeros straight from Mexico standing around partying, barbecuing, dancing, etc...and they'd all be dressed in their full vaquero get up and it was cool, good times, and they were always super freaking cool but you'd better know some Spanish, and luckily I know enough to say "I want some salsa please", etc...Anyways, I would just never dream of strolling in to an environment like that dressed in my 200 dollar Iron Heart Western shirt. It's just not gonna happen and I would never feel comfortable doing that when your in an environment with a bunch of actual "cowboys". It wouldn't go over well unless I was an actual Cowboy and I would surely be tested on that within a short amount of time upon arrival.
I also unknowingly found myself several times in an American Cowboy bar in my early drinking days. Same thing there. I'm just not going to stroll in wearing my hipster Western shirt when I've never been on a horse in my life. There would be no respect for me in that environment and I would be much better off and accepted just being who I am and wearing what I wear.
I realize this is more of a personal thing on my end but I'm good with leaving the Western shirts to the real vaqueros/cowboys. I know there's lots of guys on here and on other forums who love the western shirts and that's cool, more power to you, but I just can't do it....and bolo ties??? lol...no, just no.
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Post by bentin on Mar 25, 2015 10:27:04 GMT -6
I've lived in Texas most of my life with detours to London, NYC, Miami, Frankfurt and Orange County, but lots and lots of Texas. Never owned cowboy boots or a western shirt. Don't really plan on it. Pointed yokes, the weird shoulder overlay, pointy collars, all get a no from me. I'm scared of horses, I'd crash a pickup, dirt roads are only fun in an STI, etc.
I do have a single workshirt, I like it, but I wear it in the city, while driving a Mazda.
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 25, 2015 10:29:20 GMT -6
I have my sweet Aztec print robe from pendleton. Things awesome. I wear it and drink White Russians while in flip flops.
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