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Jan 19, 2015 23:55:29 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jan 19, 2015 23:55:29 GMT -6
Here's where we discuss all things soccer (ahem...football) related! Ready?...and...Go!
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 20, 2015 6:47:33 GMT -6
Hi. My name is Matt, and I am a Tottenham Hotspur fan.
(The first step is admitting you have a problem, right?)
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Post by bentin on Jan 20, 2015 9:02:54 GMT -6
Hell yeah! Another Spurs fan here. My dad used to live in London and I was too contrarian to like Arsenal or Chelsea.
I played soccer for twenty years here, left full and center mid. A couple of knee surgeries have slowed me down but we just had a boy so I'm hoping he enjoys soccer.
The Spurs seem to be teetering on being contenders. Hopefully by the time my kid's old enough, they'll fully have their act together.
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Post by julian on Jan 20, 2015 9:09:14 GMT -6
Hi. My name is Matt, and I am a Tottenham Hotspur fan. (The first step is admitting you have a problem, right?) Nah, they've always been the London team of choice for the more discerning chap.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 20, 2015 10:59:41 GMT -6
Hell yeah! Another Spurs fan here. My dad used to live in London and I was too contrarian to like Arsenal or Chelsea. I played soccer for twenty years here, left full and center mid. A couple of knee surgeries have slowed me down but we just had a boy so I'm hoping he enjoys soccer. The Spurs seem to be teetering on being contenders. Hopefully by the time my kid's old enough, they'll fully have their act together. I was pretty much exclusively a baseball fan growing up, and that's the only team sport I was any good at from early childhood all the way up through college. I played soccer every fall when I was a kid, primarily keeper. I got tall early so I was pretty formidable until I reached high school, at which point just being big wasn't enough. I didn't have the leaping ability or overall athleticism necessary to continue between the sticks, so I was shifted to second-string defensive midfield. I had a reasonably good understanding of positioning but no other valuable skills besides a long throw-in, so I was basically the Rory Delap of the JV squad for two seasons before I quit playing and focused on baseball year round. My younger brother was the soccer player in the family. He had the speed and athleticism that I lacked, not to mention the true passion for soccer that I had for baseball, so he was an excellent midfielder until he started having chronic pain in his shins and knees and had to give up playing competitively after leaving high school. He still plays semi-regularly in rec leagues and pickup games, but nothing too serious. Anyway, this was all in the mid-late '90s. MLS wasn't really in the public consciousness yet, but you could find some Premier League games here and there on cable. My brother fell in love with Arsenal; to be fair, they were awfully damn good in those first five or six years under Wenger, and who wouldn't want to watch the likes of Bergkamp and Overmars and Henry and Pires at the height of their powers? I was away at college, so I didn't catch the bug myself at that point. But my dad did, and he got sucked into Goonerhood along with my brother. Around 2001-2002, when both my brother and I were in college, we'd watch some games together with dad when we were all home for the holidays or other breaks. I figured we all supported the same teams in the major American sports, so why not change things up and have a little intra-family banter from time to time? I knew next to nothing about English football, so I asked them who Arsenal's big rivals were. They said the head would say ManU because they were the big dog challenging Arsenal for domestic trophies at the time, but the heart would say Spurs because their fans and Arsenal's had been engaged in what amounted to a slow-simmering local civil war for the better part of a century. That was all I needed to hear. I wasn't particularly interested in latching onto a frontrunner; I'd grown up around far too many kids who were Dallas Cowboys fans despite the fact that we'd all lived in New England our whole lives. f!@k that shit. Spurs ticked all the boxes for me. Hated rival of Arsenal for built-in family bantz? Check. Cool uniforms? Same colors as my high school and college: check. Kickass name? Tottenham Hotspur! Big check. (I had briefly considered Sheffield Wednesday on this basis a couple years prior. Dodged a bullet there!) Do I know someone who plays for them? Kasey Keller was probably the most identifiable American footballer for me at the time, me being a keeper at heart and all. Check. Are they at least somewhat better than awful and occasionally fun to watch? Check. So I was in. Albeit on an admittedly casual basis until I spent several years living in England, where the sport just completely permeates the culture and you almost can't help but become something of an obsessive. It was that period of my life when I really learned the game and became a supporter more than a fan. I'd never experienced anything like the atmosphere of a good, hotly-contested Premier League game in person. It is awesome, and I mean that in the "cool" sense and the "potent mix of admiration and fear" sense. Singing your heart out for the better part of an hour and a half and, if you're lucky, feeling thousands of people all around you explode with joy when your team scores...that's one of the best highs you can get without chemical assistance. COYS!
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Jan 20, 2015 12:06:36 GMT -6
Post by Tobesjones on Jan 20, 2015 12:06:36 GMT -6
Hell yeah! Another Spurs fan here. My dad used to live in London and I was too contrarian to like Arsenal or Chelsea. I played soccer for twenty years here, left full and center mid. A couple of knee surgeries have slowed me down but we just had a boy so I'm hoping he enjoys soccer. The Spurs seem to be teetering on being contenders. Hopefully by the time my kid's old enough, they'll fully have their act together. I was pretty much exclusively a baseball fan growing up, and that's the only team sport I was any good at from early childhood all the way up through college. I played soccer every fall when I was a kid, primarily keeper. I got tall early so I was pretty formidable until I reached high school, at which point just being big wasn't enough. I didn't have the leaping ability or overall athleticism necessary to continue between the sticks, so I was shifted to second-string defensive midfield. I had a reasonably good understanding of positioning but no other valuable skills besides a long throw-in, so I was basically the Rory Delap of the JV squad for two seasons before I quit playing and focused on baseball year round. My younger brother was the soccer player in the family. He had the speed and athleticism that I lacked, not to mention the true passion for soccer that I had for baseball, so he was an excellent midfielder until he started having chronic pain in his shins and knees and had to give up playing competitively after leaving high school. He still plays semi-regularly in rec leagues and pickup games, but nothing too serious. Anyway, this was all in the mid-late '90s. MLS wasn't really in the public consciousness yet, but you could find some Premier League games here and there on cable. My brother fell in love with Arsenal; to be fair, they were awfully damn good in those first five or six years under Wenger, and who wouldn't want to watch the likes of Bergkamp and Overmars and Henry and Pires at the height of their powers? I was away at college, so I didn't catch the bug myself at that point. But my dad did, and he got sucked into Goonerhood along with my brother. Around 2001-2002, when both my brother and I were in college, we'd watch some games together with dad when we were all home for the holidays or other breaks. I figured we all supported the same teams in the major American sports, so why not change things up and have a little intra-family banter from time to time? I knew next to nothing about English football, so I asked them who Arsenal's big rivals were. They said the head would say ManU because they were the big dog challenging Arsenal for domestic trophies at the time, but the heart would say Spurs because their fans and Arsenal's had been engaged in what amounted to a slow-simmering local civil war for the better part of a century. That was all I needed to hear. I wasn't particularly interested in latching onto a frontrunner; I'd grown up around far too many kids who were Dallas Cowboys fans despite the fact that we'd all lived in New England our whole lives. f!@k that shit. Spurs ticked all the boxes for me. Hated rival of Arsenal for built-in family bantz? Check. Cool uniforms? Same colors as my high school and college: check. Kickass name? Tottenham Hotspur! Big check. (I had briefly considered Sheffield Wednesday on this basis a couple years prior. Dodged a bullet there!) Do I know someone who plays for them? Kasey Keller was probably the most identifiable American footballer for me at the time, me being a keeper at heart and all. Check. Are they at least somewhat better than awful and occasionally fun to watch? Check. So I was in. Albeit on an admittedly casual basis until I spent several years living in England, where the sport just completely permeates the culture and you almost can't help but become something of an obsessive. It was that period of my life when I really learned the game and became a supporter more than a fan. I'd never experienced anything like the atmosphere of a good, hotly-contested Premier League game in person. It is awesome, and I mean that in the "cool" sense and the "potent mix of admiration and fear" sense. Singing your heart out for the better part of an hour and a half and, if you're lucky, feeling thousands of people all around you explode with joy when your team scores...that's one of the best highs you can get without chemical assistance. COYS! I love your reasoning. Bill Simmons (pre-crazy) way back in the day wrote an article about picking an EPL team and decided on the Spurs as well. Unbelievable article, he went through pretty much every EPL team and why he should and should not pick them as "his team." sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060719_2I never really had a team except obviously got attached to Real Madrid from living there briefly during the 2000s when they had EVERYONE. Sorry as a young drunk American I hopped on the bandwagon. It is from there I actually became a fan and got sucked into heading to a crappy Boston bar on Saturdays to get drunk at breakfast and watch EPL with some friends. I had to pick a team. My internal reasoning is far too much to post here however like many of you wanted a hardcore/not bandwagon team. Needless to say, I concluded with Newcastle. Let the jokes begin.
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Post by ickes on Jan 20, 2015 14:10:13 GMT -6
Awesome stuff here guys! Mattbert, great background on your progression to becoming a soccer nut. I don't have much time to type my story but I'll try. I played soccer growing up as well and to toot my own horn I was damn good at it. RW was my position and 9 times out of 10 I took the corner kicks as well. I was speedier than most but not the fastest and I also loved to track back and defend to help out the RB as my defensive skills were pretty damn good for a RW. I played outdoor, indoor, and in tournaments as well travelling to California and all parts of Arizona to play. My moment of glory was when I scored a goal off of a corner kick in a tournament in Camp Verde, Az. I took it from the keepers right as I am right footed. Admittedly I was trying to curl it to the back post for my striker to get a head on it but I ended up getting the perfect amount of height and curl on it and that f!@king ball curled and dropped right into the net over the keepers reach.It surprised the shit out of me but I just strolled back down to midfield like "yep, I meant to do that". So I quit playing as I got older as there wasn't much to progress to other than college soccer and I wasn't aware of the European Leagues at the time and there was no MLS yet, I dont think. So believe it or not the one thing that kept me into it was video games. Yep, I always played FIFA and around 2003 I discovered this club called Manchester United, maybe you've heard of them? Anyways I always played with them on FIFA and Igot to know the players through the video game before I ever saw one minute of a Premier League game. So I became obsessed with finding out who Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, David Beckham, etc..really were. But there was one player in particular who struck my fancy because I would score like 2-3 goals with him every game and I had to know who he was, that was Mr. Ruud Van Nislerooy. Ruud became my favorite player. So I called my cable company and immediately ordered Fox Soccer Channel and the rest is history. I was glued to the screen. I watched every game I could religiously. I became obsessed with the sport. They also showed Bundesliga games at the time, particularly Borussia Dortmund games and I would watch them too as I loved their stadium and the atmosphere their fans created just blew me away. So in 2003 I went to a Manchester United game in Seattle at the current Seahawks stadium. Man U did a summer tour of the US and they played Juventus that game. The atmosphere at that game was awesome but probably nothing like an actual game in Europe. So yes fellas, I'm a Man U fan. No bandwagon fan here though as I've stuck with them through their terrible David Moyes season last year and they're still my team this year and always will be.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 20, 2015 15:06:39 GMT -6
Bill Simmons (pre-crazy) way back in the day wrote an article about picking an EPL team and decided on the Spurs as well. Unbelievable article, he went through pretty much every EPL team and why he should and should not pick them as "his team." sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060719_2I never really had a team except obviously got attached to Real Madrid from living there briefly during the 2000s when they had EVERYONE. Sorry as a young drunk American I hopped on the bandwagon. It is from there I actually became a fan and got sucked into heading to a crappy Boston bar on Saturdays to get drunk at breakfast and watch EPL with some friends. I had to pick a team. My internal reasoning is far too much to post here however like many of you wanted a hardcore/not bandwagon team. Needless to say, I concluded with Newcastle. Let the jokes begin. Well, um...er... Some of my best friends are Geordies? No, that's a lie. Okay, the guy who ran the little coffee stand at my home station on the overland train line was a Geordie. Lovely chap, and I was gutted for him when the Toon got relegated in 2009. That's as far as I can go. I'm just glad managerial genius Alan Pardew is no longer there because somehow Newcastle was a serious bogey team for Spurs during his tenure. I remember that Simmons column, and I was one of the many people who emailed him to advocate on behalf of "the Spurs"*. I corresponded with him often when I was in college and he was still writing for Digital City Boston. Man, if you think he's crazy now you should have seen some of the shit he got away with back then before he had a fat contract with some corporate Big Brother to worry about. * Ironically, he got that partly wrong in his very forceful remarks about the club's name: it's simply 'Spurs', never 'the Spurs'. The Spurs are a basketball franchise in Texas. Spurs are the greatest football club the world has ever seen. Big difference. Anyway, I'm sure I wasn't the only one who included the famous glory, glory quote from Tottenham Hotspur Legend Danny Blanchflower to help make the case for Spurs. It's kind of amazing how the ethos he expressed has so consistently defined the spirit of the club and its playing style for well over a hundred years. If you need anything else to be a Spurs fan, then they probably aren't the right club for you. "The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things in style, with a flourish; about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
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Jan 20, 2015 16:02:54 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jan 20, 2015 16:02:54 GMT -6
Mattbert I've got to say I've always enjoyed watching Tottenham play and I always root for them when I watch them, except of course when they are playing Man U BTW Mattbert, how thoroughly effin enjoyable was it to watch Spurs put 5 past Chelsea? Oh did I relish that game. Just to see the look on Mourinhos face on the sideline as his Chelsea defense was being penetrated and violated (I will let you all insert your own "that's what she said" jokes here) like they haven't been in years was priceless. The post match interview with Jose was just as entertaining as the game.
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Post by Canucklehead on Jan 20, 2015 16:24:54 GMT -6
Gooner checking in here. Wow, lots of Spurs fans so far. I know a lot of them up here in Canada, too. Weird.
Arsenal have been the squad for me since growing up in the 90's. I got drawn to the flowing style of football under Wenger. I loved watching Bergkamp break down a defense or Patrick Vieira storm from the back. Then it was Henry and the Invincibles era. Gotta say it's been mighty frustrating lately, but I've still got faith. Well, top 4 faith, anyways...
In MLS, I still follow TFC regularly. As Mattbert said, the first step is admitting it...
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 20, 2015 20:21:54 GMT -6
Mattbert I've got to say I've always enjoyed watching Tottenham play and I always root for them when I watch them, except of course when they are playing Man U BTW Mattbert, how thoroughly effin enjoyable was it to watch Spurs put 5 past Chelsea? Oh did I relish that game. Just to see the look on Mourinhos face on the sideline as his Chelsea defense was being penetrated and violated (I will let you all insert your own "that's what she said" jokes here) like they haven't been in years was priceless. The post match interview with Jose was just as entertaining as the game. I have no particular animus towards ManU, although I did find some of Fergie's arrogance fairly grating "back in the day". But he earned that right as much as anyone can, so whatevs. Plus, turning you guys over at Old Trafford for the first time in ages was an absolute highlight of the last seven or eight years since I became a serious fan. I admit those 2007-09 teams were really something to behold with Ronaldo, Rooney, and Tevez up top in the 4-3-3. I'd get cold sweats ahead of the ManU fixtures just thinking about what those guys were likely to do to Spurs' back line. I have a love/hate relationship with Jose. He's entertaining as hell, and I'm always in favor of more "characters" in sports as opposed to bland, cliche-spouting bores. But he can be such an absolute f!@king cock sometimes. It's complicated. And then there's his marriage with Chelsea, the one club in England I loathe more than any other. Having a small group of Chelsea fans hiss at you (a charming favorite of theirs; mimicking the sound of Nazi gas chambers because of Spurs' long association with the Jewish community) just because you had the nerve to wear a Tottenham scarf on the subway ... that'll engender some genuine animus in a man. So, yes, despite my strange affection for Jose, giving his defense the heaviest shellacking they've EVER had under his stewardship was beyond gratifying. Of course we went right out and gifted three points to f!@king Palace the very next week, so who's laughing now, right?
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Jan 21, 2015 0:02:22 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Jan 21, 2015 0:02:22 GMT -6
Mattbert I've got to say I've always enjoyed watching Tottenham play and I always root for them when I watch them, except of course when they are playing Man U BTW Mattbert, how thoroughly effin enjoyable was it to watch Spurs put 5 past Chelsea? Oh did I relish that game. Just to see the look on Mourinhos face on the sideline as his Chelsea defense was being penetrated and violated (I will let you all insert your own "that's what she said" jokes here) like they haven't been in years was priceless. The post match interview with Jose was just as entertaining as the game. I have no particular animus towards ManU, although I did find some of Fergie's arrogance fairly grating "back in the day". But he earned that right as much as anyone can, so whatevs. Plus, turning you guys over at Old Trafford for the first time in ages was an absolute highlight of the last seven or eight years since I became a serious fan. I admit those 2007-09 teams were really something to behold with Ronaldo, Rooney, and Tevez up top in the 4-3-3. I'd get cold sweats ahead of the ManU fixtures just thinking about what those guys were likely to do to Spurs' back line. I have a love/hate relationship with Jose. He's entertaining as hell, and I'm always in favor of more "characters" in sports as opposed to bland, cliche-spouting bores. But he can be such an absolute f!@king cock sometimes. It's complicated. And then there's his marriage with Chelsea, the one club in England I loathe more than any other. Having a small group of Chelsea fans hiss at you (a charming favorite of theirs; mimicking the sound of Nazi gas chambers because of Spurs' long association with the Jewish community) just because you had the nerve to wear a Tottenham scarf on the subway ... that'll engender some genuine animus in a man. So, yes, despite my strange affection for Jose, giving his defense the heaviest shellacking they've EVER had under his stewardship was beyond gratifying. Of course we went right out and gifted three points to f!@king Palace the very next week, so who's laughing now, right? I STRONGLY CONCUR with your points above regarding Mourinho and the 2007-2009 ManU squad. At the end of the day I love having a guy like Jose in the Premiership. He's a polarizing figure who is either loved or hated but is always respected. Much like Sir Alex was. Damn do I miss Sir Alex! I honestly believe that the 2007-2009 ManU squad was the best Manchester United squad that's ever been assembled. You're point is spot on regarding the front 3 of Rooney, Ronaldo, and Tevez. Their counterattacking capabilities with those three up front was just ridiculous. It was an absolute joy to watch. When they got the ball on the counterattack the opposing defenses really had no chance of stopping them. They were better off to just not bother chasing them, save their energy, let them counter and just pray their keeper made the save. Their defense was absolutely rock solid as well with Vidic, Ferdinand, and Van Der Saar between the sticks all in their prime. You had so many players on that squad in their prime or climbing right up to it. Oh the glory days!! Ok, sorry for the rambling
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Post by wisdom on Jan 21, 2015 3:06:35 GMT -6
Atalanta fan from my days working in Bergamo with Torino right up there with them. Lived in Roma/Lazio territory for a few years and in 2006 when Italy won it all. Enjoy watching the Italian national team, but never grew an allegiance to either Roma, Lazio, or Fiorentina (where my then fiance/present wife was living).
Bolton fan, too.. haven't been the same since losing big Sam, though, and doubt they'll reach any point of prominence anytime over the next decade, but loyal nonetheless. I used to travel to Manchester for business quite frequently and would stay at the Reebok stadium hotel (de Verre Whites) while there. Occasionally had a room that faced the pitch during match days, too.
Guess I'm destined to support teams perpetually striving to either achieve promotion or avoid relegation.
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Jan 29, 2015 13:11:58 GMT -6
Post by ickes on Jan 29, 2015 13:11:58 GMT -6
So the rumor today is that Man Utd have agreed to a fee for Mats Hummels. f!@k yeah, that is exactly the kind of signing they need. A good, solid CB. Hoping its more than just rumors at this point. I'm a big fan of Mats Hummels.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 29, 2015 13:34:13 GMT -6
So the rumor today is that Man Utd have agreed to a fee for Mats Hummels. f!@k yeah, that is exactly the kind of signing they need. A good, solid CB. Hoping its more than just rumors at this point. I'm a big fan of Mats Hummels. There aren't too many defenders in the world who might be worth 37 million quid, but he's one of them. That would be an awfully nice get for United. How 'bout that free kick from Erik-sen-sen-sen last night, eh? Sexytimes. https://vine.co/v/OTVF1DJ7BtK
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Jan 29, 2015 16:25:57 GMT -6
Post by ickes on Jan 29, 2015 16:25:57 GMT -6
Agreed Mattbert, he's one of the top defenders in the world right now. Hopefully ManU snatches him. Eriksen has mad free kick skills, seems like he's always scoring from a free kick. Tottenham definitely have some weapons. what about that stud muffin Harry Kane?! Where the hell did that guy come from? How long do you think he's going to last at Tottenham? and by that I mean how long do you think it will be before one of the bid dogs come hunting for his signature? That's the problem with clubs like Tottenham, they'll have some great players but then they run the risk of the big dogs with their deep pockets coming in and snatching them up. I don't care what anybody says, at the end of the day everyone has their price. Just ask Ronaldo....yeah, I'm still bitter we sold him to Real Madrid, so what...I'll get over it one day.
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Feb 1, 2015 23:46:44 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Feb 1, 2015 23:46:44 GMT -6
yep, Eriksen scored again from a free kick this weekend.
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Post by bentin on Feb 7, 2015 10:34:26 GMT -6
Nice of Kane to take care of that Derby by himself.
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Feb 7, 2015 16:38:39 GMT -6
Post by Mattbert on Feb 7, 2015 16:38:39 GMT -6
That was a delicious ball in from Bentaleb for the winner. Team effort.
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Post by jackgordon on Feb 11, 2015 1:47:29 GMT -6
There's a disproportionate number of Spurs fans in here.. weird. As a Liverpool fan from London growing up in the heart of Arsenal territory I've always had a soft spot for Spurs. Good game this morning, good of you to let Mario get off the mark..
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Feb 11, 2015 7:17:58 GMT -6
Post by Mattbert on Feb 11, 2015 7:17:58 GMT -6
There's a disproportionate number of Spurs fans in here.. weird. As a Liverpool fan from London growing up in the heart of Arsenal territory I've always had a soft spot for Spurs. Good game this morning, good of you to let Mario get off the mark.. I enjoy the fact that Balotelli exists because I like to be entertained and he is certainly an entertaining figure. But holy shit does that guy get under my skin whenever he's up against Spurs, and to make matters worse he always seems to be pivotal in some of our most memorable losses. Ever since that game a few years ago when he tucked away a spot kick for Man City to win it at the death when he should have previously been sent off for deliberately stamping on Scotty Parker, I have dreaded seeing him in any match against Tottenham. Because it is a foregone conclusion that he will score against them or get away with some sort of ghastly behavior or both. That combination from Lamela and Kane for Spurs' first equalizer was the f!@king sex, though. I really hope Lamela can continue slowly finding his feet because it has been tough to watch someone who's so ridiculously talented be unable to really unleash what he can do. I think there are quite a few Americans who started following the Premier League within the last decade or so and latched onto Spurs because during that period the club's been good enough to be interesting but not so good as to make its new overseas supporters into obnoxious frontrunners. And then of course the team's play was pretty easy on the eye under Jol (when Keane and Berba were an appealing partnership up front) and Redknapp (Modric and Bale Show). Wide open attacking football and plenty of goals (both scored and, unfortunately, conceded) probably appeals to the average nascent American footy fan more than, say, Mourinho's Chelsea grinding out another 1-0 masterclass in defensive, disciplined counter-attacking. Those, er, tactical nuances can be more difficult to appreciate.
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Post by drstrange on Feb 11, 2015 13:22:21 GMT -6
perhaps the best game ever (in terms of passion and thrill) on club level for me was the Champions League Final 2004/5 on 26 May 2005 in Istanbul between Liverpool and AC Milan. Liverpool were 0:3 down by half-time, recovered in second half, saved themselves into a penalty-shootout and had the lucky end on their side. As the Italian defensive has always been considered the most effective in the world, even a draw against a strong Italian side leading 3:0 was unheard of at the time .... my italian neighbour, a very passionate AC Milan supporter was absolutely devastated after the game ended and subsequent even mentioning the town Istanbul would pretty much annoy him ... can't believe it's soon 10 years ago this happened ...
back to present: I wonder who's gonna be first, Liverpool to win the Champions Leage a 6th time or my first LD order arriving ....
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Post by ickes on Feb 11, 2015 13:37:29 GMT -6
perhaps the best game ever (in terms of passion and thrill) on club level for me was the Champions League Final 2004/5 on 26 May 2005 in Istanbul between Liverpool and AC Milan. Liverpool were 0:3 down by half-time, recovered in second half, saved themselves into a penalty-shootout and had the lucky end on their side. As the Italian defensive has always been considered the most effective in the world, even a draw against a strong Italian side leading 3:0 was unheard of at the time .... my italian neighbour, a very passionate AC Milan supporter was absolutely devastated after the game ended and subsequent even mentioning the town Istanbul would pretty much annoy him ... can't believe it's soon 10 years ago this happened ... back to present: I wonder who's gonna be first, Liverpool to win the Champions Leage a 6th time or my first LD order arriving .... I remember exactly where I was when I was watching that game drstrange. That was one hell of a Champions League Final and was probably the only time you will find me rooting for Liverpool. You are right, AC Milan was the team to beat at that time and they were at the top of their game. Going 3-0 down to AC in 05 should have been game over, lights out, but Liverpool made a memorable comeback. I was screaming and jumping up and down like I was a Liverpool fan that day and I remember my neighbor came over and knocked on my door and asked if everything was ok because he could hear me shouting next door...lol...gospel truth. Plus the Italian sides were always notorious for giving ManUtd a hell of a time so for that day, and that day only I say, I was Liverpool fan . I had that game on my DVR for years afterwards but it eventually was deleted.
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Feb 11, 2015 15:25:58 GMT -6
Post by drstrange on Feb 11, 2015 15:25:58 GMT -6
Liverpool are together with Nottingham Forest and Tottenham Hotspurs my favorite English teams. And yes, you can tell I'm a 70s guy (Leeds Utd. and Derby County are however not very high up on my list ....)
I wonder whether Steven Gerrard is going to make a splash in L.A.
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Feb 12, 2015 1:04:44 GMT -6
Post by jackgordon on Feb 12, 2015 1:04:44 GMT -6
There's a disproportionate number of Spurs fans in here.. weird. As a Liverpool fan from London growing up in the heart of Arsenal territory I've always had a soft spot for Spurs. Good game this morning, good of you to let Mario get off the mark.. I enjoy the fact that Balotelli exists because I like to be entertained and he is certainly an entertaining figure. But holy shit does that guy get under my skin whenever he's up against Spurs, and to make matters worse he always seems to be pivotal in some of our most memorable losses. Ever since that game a few years ago when he tucked away a spot kick for Man City to win it at the death when he should have previously been sent off for deliberately stamping on Scotty Parker, I have dreaded seeing him in any match against Tottenham. Because it is a foregone conclusion that he will score against them or get away with some sort of ghastly behavior or both. That combination from Lamela and Kane for Spurs' first equalizer was the f!@king sex, though. I really hope Lamela can continue slowly finding his feet because it has been tough to watch someone who's so ridiculously talented be unable to really unleash what he can do. I think there are quite a few Americans who started following the Premier League within the last decade or so and latched onto Spurs because during that period the club's been good enough to be interesting but not so good as to make its new overseas supporters into obnoxious frontrunners. And then of course the team's play was pretty easy on the eye under Jol (when Keane and Berba were an appealing partnership up front) and Redknapp (Modric and Bale Show). Wide open attacking football and plenty of goals (both scored and, unfortunately, conceded) probably appeals to the average nascent American footy fan more than, say, Mourinho's Chelsea grinding out another 1-0 masterclass in defensive, disciplined counter-attacking. Those, er, tactical nuances can be more difficult to appreciate. As much as I dislike Mourinho, I think his Chelsea side get a bad rap for grinding out dull 1-0s. They're the highest-scoring team so far this season, averaging more than 2 goals a game. The best football I've ever seen in my whole life (and I'll admit to being completely biased) was Liverpool's last year. I'm sure that won us a few fans everywhere. Hopefully we can get back to something like that in the not too distant future.
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