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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 13, 2015 8:38:03 GMT -6
It ran the "tried to sell/give it to someone else" gauntlet and emerged victorious! I'm hoping maybe at least part of my order is able to do the same. If I get anything even remotely close to what I ordered I'll consider it a bonus. I had completely written off getting anything at all, so this will just be a gift in my mind. I once dated this girl who cheated like a sex crazed teenager but told me she was always tired. After months of waiting I grew frustrated and angry that she for one made me wait but also that she gave my goods to another man ... all was back to normal when I was finally blessed with some sheet time.
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Post by jeffrx on Nov 13, 2015 8:57:25 GMT -6
I really thought Roman had completely thrown in the towel. Maybe he truly is trying to dig his way out of this? If so, it's going to be a rough road for him with all the negative feedback on the internet.
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Post by bigblack on Nov 13, 2015 9:00:45 GMT -6
Yes, the actual order was for 3 shirts, but at one point I had called and told them that I'd take jeans instead if that would be easier for them. I'm sure this request fell into the abyss though. At this point, I have no idea what to expect. It's like pot luck at a holiday party. It seems like if you said you would alter your order previously, they are honoring it. You probably got jeans instead of shirts
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Post by jeffrx on Nov 13, 2015 9:03:47 GMT -6
Yes, the actual order was for 3 shirts, but at one point I had called and told them that I'd take jeans instead if that would be easier for them. I'm sure this request fell into the abyss though. At this point, I have no idea what to expect. It's like pot luck at a holiday party. It seems like if you said you would alter your order previously, they are honoring it. You probably got jeans instead of shirts Maybe, but the order status still says it's shirts, so I really have no idea. I'd settle for a pair of socks at this point! LOL I'll definitely post when/if I receive something.
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Post by bigblack on Nov 13, 2015 9:27:58 GMT -6
It seems like if you said you would alter your order previously, they are honoring it. You probably got jeans instead of shirts Maybe, but the order status still says it's shirts, so I really have no idea. I'd settle for a pair of socks at this point! LOL I'll definitely post when/if I receive something. The site has my original order but I received what I had changed my order to. I ordered an XXL Oregon then changed to XL California and got that
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Post by whiskeyriver on Nov 13, 2015 9:38:55 GMT -6
Come on guys, really? You're really saying "maybe he's trying to dig his way out" and "maybe he's not so bad" and "it'll be OK if I get my stuff"? Really??
Man...I wasn't even swindled as I eventually got what I ordered, and IDGAF...this guy is as crooked as Lombard Street.
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Post by hgs on Nov 13, 2015 10:10:57 GMT -6
If lawless is the Ferrari of denim then Roman must be Mussolini
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Post by stinky on Nov 13, 2015 10:13:43 GMT -6
deal. post deleted. 14oz Kaihara with my box calf Trickers Stows.
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Post by dshan7 on Nov 13, 2015 11:23:23 GMT -6
Just got offered a refund for my returned order. He says the system won't let them issue refunds for old orders and offered to send it through PayPal...I guess we'll see. Screenshoting all the messages in case the site goes down again.
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Post by dshan7 on Nov 13, 2015 11:49:13 GMT -6
Aaaaaand refund received!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 17:48:38 GMT -6
If I get anything even remotely close to what I ordered I'll consider it a bonus. I had completely written off getting anything at all, so this will just be a gift in my mind. I once dated this girl who cheated like a sex crazed teenager but told me she was always tired. After months of waiting I grew frustrated and angry that she for one made me wait but also that she gave my goods to another man ... all was back to normal when I was finally blessed with some sheet time. That's a "back in the day in my early 20's story". Of course, it wasn't really cheating....it was college....so it was more of a slow motion orgy at different locations between a loosely connected group of people who were acquainted with each other. As for our current situation with our current "cheating girlfriend" I'll defer to my post-college, now a grown ass man relationship policy. Never trust the tears, or kiss, of a cheating woman. Ever. We've seen the cheating....now the kissing is starting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 17:54:04 GMT -6
deal. post deleted. 14oz Kaihara with my box calf Trickers Stows. Dude, those Trickers are tits! Nice.
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Post by yabut on Nov 13, 2015 23:22:35 GMT -6
Ended up getting a pair of jeans from lawless. Went to their store and got a choice of 3 pairs they had roughly in my size range. Went with a waist of 42.5 which usually fit snug on me but break in to my true sizing. Tried them on and the rise is incredibly low. Like a measurement that shouldn't exist in 2015. To give an example they have a lower rise than my naked and famous jeans. The jeans get devoured into my butt and suffocate my junk like nothing I've ever seen before. Not necessarily their fault but I feel like they may not have had much experience working in the higher size range. All in all I'm not gonna bother returning them. It was a 40 dollar experiment. The lawless chapter is officially closed for me. Whom did you meet and talk to? Was it Roman himself? His mother (who signed the letter people recieved from the AG)? Or someone else? I'm amazed people have been getting jeans. The AG's office seems to have lit a fire under Lawless.
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Post by indiecred17 on Nov 13, 2015 23:44:55 GMT -6
Ended up getting a pair of jeans from lawless. Went to their store and got a choice of 3 pairs they had roughly in my size range. Went with a waist of 42.5 which usually fit snug on me but break in to my true sizing. Tried them on and the rise is incredibly low. Like a measurement that shouldn't exist in 2015. To give an example they have a lower rise than my naked and famous jeans. The jeans get devoured into my butt and suffocate my junk like nothing I've ever seen before. Not necessarily their fault but I feel like they may not have had much experience working in the higher size range. All in all I'm not gonna bother returning them. It was a 40 dollar experiment. The lawless chapter is officially closed for me. Whom did you meet and talk to? Was it Roman himself? His mother (who signed the letter people recieved from the AG)? Or someone else? I'm amazed people have been getting jeans. The AG's office seems to have lit a fire under Lawless. It was Roman and his girlfriend or whatever she is. Another funny development is the strongly worded email I received due to my review of their jeans on this forum. Apparently they didn't like that I didn't like the jeans and didn't want to waste my time to return them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 3:21:27 GMT -6
If RA shipped women's jeans with women in them, I'd still not give him a dollar or the time of day. Never, ever again... I know I'm an outlier in the group, but if he started cranking out product consistently and fulfilled all of the orders that are owed to customers, I'd likely purchase again. I like the fit. Why? We already have Manny and Indigogene cranking out equal or better products.....
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Post by odin on Nov 14, 2015 5:53:48 GMT -6
If lawless is the Ferrari of denim then Roman must be Mussolini or Berlusconi
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Post by matt on Nov 14, 2015 10:15:37 GMT -6
Whom did you meet and talk to? Was it Roman himself? His mother (who signed the letter people recieved from the AG)? Or someone else? I'm amazed people have been getting jeans. The AG's office seems to have lit a fire under Lawless. It was Roman and his girlfriend or whatever she is. Another funny development is the strongly worded email I received due to my review of their jeans on this forum. Apparently they didn't like that I didn't like the jeans and didn't want to waste my time to return them. Interesting that they validated what we all expected - that they are lurking in the shadows on the forum...however, it doesn't justify the "strongly worded" response. They've earned every response they've received at this point.
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Post by indiecred17 on Nov 14, 2015 11:13:26 GMT -6
It was Roman and his girlfriend or whatever she is. Another funny development is the strongly worded email I received due to my review of their jeans on this forum. Apparently they didn't like that I didn't like the jeans and didn't want to waste my time to return them. Interesting that they validated what we all expected - that they are lurking in the shadows on the forum...however, it doesn't justify the "strongly worded" response. They've earned every response they've received at this point. Yeah they said they're always watching and let me know I could either respond to them or reply in the forum (I believe insinuating that not liking their low rise jeans makes me a hating coward). Never a dull moment.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 14, 2015 11:19:01 GMT -6
Interesting that they validated what we all expected - that they are lurking in the shadows on the forum...however, it doesn't justify the "strongly worded" response. They've earned every response they've received at this point. Yeah they said they're always watching and let me know I could either respond to them or reply in the forum (I believe insinuating that not liking their low rise jeans makes me a hating coward). Never a dull moment. I'd say they were probably more upset that you told the story of being asked to pick a replacement from the stacks of jeans in boxes that he told the news was just orders waiting to go out -- implying that he gave you someone else's order.
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Post by indiecred17 on Nov 14, 2015 11:37:52 GMT -6
Yeah they said they're always watching and let me know I could either respond to them or reply in the forum (I believe insinuating that not liking their low rise jeans makes me a hating coward). Never a dull moment. I'd say they were probably more upset that you told the story of being asked to pick a replacement from the stacks of jeans in boxes that he told the news was just orders waiting to go out -- implying that he gave you someone else's order. Yeah definitely could be, but they screen shotted my review specifically and emailed it to me. But yeah I think they were upset that I was civil to them in person yet didn't like the product once I was able to get home and try it on. I'm sure the "picking out my order from the pile" didn't help though.
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Post by matt on Nov 14, 2015 14:06:17 GMT -6
Ineptitude. They've received more free business advice from just this forum alone (never mind the added free advice in the other forum communities) and perhaps implementing even a fraction of it would have put them in a better place than they are currently. Oh well, perhaps they should try their had at something else.
Hi Roman! Hi Laura!
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Post by Old26 on Nov 14, 2015 14:11:12 GMT -6
Ineptitude. They've received more free business advice from just this forum alone (never mind the added free advice in the other forum communities) and perhaps implementing even a fraction of it would have put them in a better place than they are currently. Oh well, perhaps they should try their had at something else. Hi Roman! Hi Laura! They should no longer get any space here. I would never willingly allow anything due to the events that have transpired. Might have started with good intentions, but what's happened since is nothing short of a microcosm of what Wall St and big banks did to people. You can put a new label on it, but people will know and many folks will make sure that the past is not covered up. Where's my shirt? My money? Feel free to chime in any of you lurking here with either or both.
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Post by jdtmn on Nov 14, 2015 15:20:59 GMT -6
Roman and Laura - Rather than lurking here, how about checking the HUGE list of order inquiries on IG and message function on your website. Should be lots of good reading for you there and opportunity to actually do something. Unbelievable...
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Post by jdtmn on Nov 14, 2015 15:26:35 GMT -6
Ineptitude. They've received more free business advice from just this forum alone (never mind the added free advice in the other forum communities) and perhaps implementing even a fraction of it would have put them in a better place than they are currently. Oh well, perhaps they should try their had at something else. Hi Roman! Hi Laura! They should no longer get any space here. I would never willingly allow anything due to the events that have transpired. Might have started with good intentions, but what's happened since is nothing short of a microcosm of what Wall St and big banks did to people. You can put a new label on it, but people will know and many folks will make sure that the past is not covered up. Where's my shirt? My money? Feel free to chime in any of you lurking here with either or both. I vote this section on the forum gets renamed "Ripped Off by Lawless Denim". Seriously.
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Post by chrisdoth on Nov 14, 2015 15:34:47 GMT -6
Hi Roman,
Yes, please do 'chime in'. Certainly interested how my two orders which I was told were both finished and were listed on the website have now become '"You haven't placed any orders with us. When you do, their status will appear on this page." I mean I've given up on the ordere but I'd love to know if they no longer exist due to general incompetence or for a specific reason to fudge numbers or some such?
I guess it might be due to the fact that I didn't log in after the first website, which I understand was, in part, made by a forum member here and never fully paid for, was deleted and then the new website set up. Either way the fact I have an 'account' on the site as well as about fifteen emails full of broken promises should be proof enough I did pay for two pairs of jeans from you that you've never sent. Oh, and that promise of a 'credit note' that I was given for my patience (which I never actually received either.)
*BTW We all didn't want you to fail, thats why we all gave you money. All we wanted was the goods we paid for and, if there was an issue, maybe a little honestly rather than a bunch of lies, falsehoods, deleted websites/posts/accounts and threats. That's all.
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