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Post by ickes on Jan 7, 2015 9:21:51 GMT -6
ickes you have a lot of prision workout buddies? lol....no....I have three close friends who have served some significant amounts (5-7 years ish) and two out of the three came out looking pretty freakin yoked. Course one of my friends was 6'6", 375 before he went in so he was huge to begin with, but I think everyone should try the prison workout transformation. It can change your life fellas  ....kidding of course |
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Post by usctroll on Jan 7, 2015 14:31:32 GMT -6
Seriously the hardest part is just getting started. Just pick one and do it. Doing anything, even just do body weight exercises, pushups, planks, etc no equipment needed will be 100 times better than nothing. Once you get started you will see the results and get motivated to explore other options. This is a true fact. I started running about 10 miles/week in late spring of '14 along with eating healthy and doing pushups/situps. That got me down from 215 to 185 and I've been working on making that a hard 185 instead of a soft 185 with Crossfit and boxing over the last 4 months. The key is to start moving, then leverage that success into something more serious if you need newer/harder workouts to stay motivated. |
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Post by Tobesjones on Jan 7, 2015 15:41:56 GMT -6
Seriously the hardest part is just getting started. Just pick one and do it. Doing anything, even just do body weight exercises, pushups, planks, etc no equipment needed will be 100 times better than nothing. Once you get started you will see the results and get motivated to explore other options. This is a true fact. I started running about 10 miles/week in late spring of '14 along with eating healthy and doing pushups/situps. That got me down from 215 to 185 and I've been working on making that a hard 185 instead of a soft 185 with Crossfit and boxing over the last 4 months. The key is to start moving, then leverage that success into something more serious if you need newer/harder workouts to stay motivated. Have any of you tried the deck of cards workout? You can download an app for your phone and I find it pretty decent to do at least SOMETHING when I am traveling and have no access to a gym. Check it out, all body weight stuff but you get a sweat going if you can get through the deck quick enough. Also good way to break in some denim! Personally I am in conflict right now on a direction. I was training for a marathon however got the lovely plantar in my foot that won't go away so might end up bailing. My gym is changing to corporate ownership so debating becoming a Crossfit Kid. I am just trying to justify the price of $20 a class. Also, did try the Arnold workout last night ...... woof. Very sore today. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 16:33:52 GMT -6
Ok.. I am going to try the Arnold workout.... tomorrow. I am finally able to get the gym membership sorted out.
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Post by ickes on Jan 7, 2015 17:43:27 GMT -6
Guys, I'm not trying to sound like an expert here, but I have tried lots of different workouts in the 20 years I've been lifting and to this date the Arnold program is the one that has given me the best results. I'm not saying that other workouts don't work and won't give you results, because they will, but in my experience its only temporary. I would reach a plateu and have to change up to a different routine every six to eight weeks to continue to see results.
I have been doing the Arnold routine for 9 months now and I continue to see results like I have never seen before. I honestly don't see myself doing any other routine any time soon. The beauty of this routine is that you are changing your routine up every week (although I think the last two weeks of phase two might be the same) so your muscles are always confused. Not only do you change the routine up every week but you will also change it up within the same week. For example, your chest routine on Monday will be different from your chest routine on Thursday of the same week.
I am always sore from each workout and other workouts no longer challenge me or keep my interest. I tried a different, more "normal" routine a few months back and it was almost boring to me. I stopped it after one week and went back to the Arnold routine. I'm sure one day I'll eventually change it up to a different routine for a change of pace, but I'll always go back to the Arnold routine.
Like I said, you can and will see results from other routines, especially if you're a beginner ( I do not recommend the Arnold routine for beginners btw)....but eventually you'll get to a point where you'll hit a plateu and the results will stop. This has not happened for me yet in 9 months of doing Arnold's plan. Just do it correctly (45 seconds rest is so important) and stick with it and you are guaranteed to see results.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 7, 2015 22:20:01 GMT -6
Guys, I'm not trying to sound like an expert here, but I have tried lots of different workouts in the 20 years I've been lifting and to this date the Arnold program is the one that has given me the best results. I'm not saying that other workouts don't work and won't give you results, because they will, but in my experience its only temporary. I would reach a plateu and have to change up to a different routine every six to eight weeks to continue to see results. I have been doing the Arnold routine for 9 months now and I continue to see results like I have never seen before. I honestly don't see myself doing any other routine any time soon. The beauty of this routine is that you are changing your routine up every week (although I think the last two weeks of phase two might be the same) so your muscles are always confused. Not only do you change the routine up every week but you will also change it up within the same week. For example, your chest routine on Monday will be different from your chest routine on Thursday of the same week. I am always sore from each workout and other workouts no longer challenge me or keep my interest. I tried a different, more "normal" routine a few months back and it was almost boring to me. I stopped it after one week and went back to the Arnold routine. I'm sure one day I'll eventually change it up to a different routine for a change of pace, but I'll always go back to the Arnold routine. Like I said, you can and will see results from other routines, especially if you're a beginner ( I do not recommend the Arnold routine for beginners btw)....but eventually you'll get to a point where you'll hit a plateu and the results will stop. This has not happened for me yet in 9 months of doing Arnold's plan. Just do it correctly (45 seconds rest is so important) and stick with it and you are guaranteed to see results. Are you ready to birth a muscle baby? |
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Post by ickes on Jan 7, 2015 22:30:46 GMT -6
huh?
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Post by exophobe on Jan 7, 2015 22:32:53 GMT -6
You kept saying nine months and it took my brain to weird places. heh. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 7, 2015 23:25:45 GMT -6
oh...lol...gotcha
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Post by wisdom on Jan 7, 2015 23:47:32 GMT -6
I'm midway through the 2nd to last week of the Arnold blueprint.. it has been transformative for me and I've always struggled to gain weight. I'm at my highest level of my life in terms of strength and size.
I can't say I'm the most fit I've ever been, though, since I feel I was in better shape when I boxed in college, but not by much. When I get settled in Singapore, I'm going to try to find the time (and energy!) to work in some boxing drills/cardio.
One thing's for sure, though.. I'm sticking with the Arnold blueprint. If you can survive the first two weeks, the results alone will inspire you to keep going.
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 8, 2015 7:53:10 GMT -6
Started the kris gethin 12 week muscle building program 1/4/15. First week is solid. Uses a lot of different training principals to continue to challenge your muscles. Me and my gf are doing it with one of my buddies joining when he can.
I will say it until my eyes bleed... 30% training 70% nutrition.
I am not a cross fit guy really never liked it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 10:48:08 GMT -6
ickes this made me think of you
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Post by ickes on Jan 8, 2015 11:12:49 GMT -6
Lol....that's awesome!
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Post by davelewis on Jan 8, 2015 13:33:02 GMT -6
Started the kris gethin 12 week muscle building program 1/4/15. First week is solid. Uses a lot of different training principals to continue to challenge your muscles. Me and my gf are doing it with one of my buddies joining when he can. I will say it until my eyes bleed... 30% training 70% nutrition. I am not a cross fit guy really never liked it. I love cross fit, but at my age, a lot of the moves make an old guy like me hurt. My problem is I tend to overdo it, and that comes from years of being a gym rat. I have some younger friends that belong to cross fit gym,(boxes), and these guy could probably smoke 99% of the general populace in a fitness faceoff. My best results are from really mixing it up, and throwing in some cross fit stuff, kettle bell work, cardio on a regular basis, and MOST importantly, eating unprocessed foods as much as you can, little to no sugars, and high quality proteins. All this, coupled with a little whisky in the evening, and a good night sleep, and your on your way to a long life. |
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Post by davelewis on Jan 8, 2015 13:35:06 GMT -6
I just realized that I have become an addict here. That is my que to leave, and go workout!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 17:44:49 GMT -6
"Run fat boy run"
Back to the gym after almost a month and this is exactly my feeling now. Not going to start the Arnold program today. Need a day or two to get myself back in the "mode".
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Post by wisdom on Jan 8, 2015 22:07:22 GMT -6
Don't resolve to do it.. just do it (but don't overdo it).
I don't believe willpower exists. You either can, or you can't.. and as Henry Ford once said, whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right.
When I'm in the middle of my efforts to pump out 50 pull-ups or 20 leg extensions I'm totally tempted to back off the weight sometimes, but y'know, the suffering is only a memory when the workout is done, so just do it!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2015 22:30:37 GMT -6
wisdom Thanks and I will head back to the gym tomorrow to start my Day #1. Good luck to your adventure in Singapore. Photo from Day #0. I hope we will see improvement in my next photo. Btw, i am wearing my Uniqlo heat-tech T-shirt and it keeps my temp up the whole time. Like it. 
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Post by ickes on Jan 9, 2015 0:21:39 GMT -6
wisdom Thanks and I will head back to the gym tomorrow to start my Day #1. Good luck to your adventure in Singapore. Photo from Day #0. I hope we will see improvement in my next photo. Btw, i am wearing my Uniqlo heat-tech T-shirt and it keeps my temp up the whole time. Like it. ummmm....dude...@wils....you look better right now than half the dudes I see in my gym. Granted I'm only going by this pic, but I see some muscle on your body right now. Look at your calves, you appear to naturally have developed calf muscles. I hate you . My calves are my most stubborn muscle to develop. Also, didn't you say you have a 31.5" actual waist? I can't imagine how anyone can be fat with a waist that small. I think you're going to explode with this Arnold program. Go get it brah!!!! Get some!!!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 0:28:16 GMT -6
Anyone know of a solid workout I can do using just dumbbells? I have a set of adjustable dumbbells, up to 75 lbs, in my office with an adjustable bench. Also an adjustable kettlebell.
Trying to do a starting strength program, but it doesn't feel as effective with dumbbells and the kettlebell. Ie I used to back squat 315 lbs 3x5, but now I can only do an awkward front squat of 90 lbs because that's max on the kettlebell. Think I will have to do some high rep low rest workouts to make it worthwhile. I just hate sweating at work though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 0:37:36 GMT -6
wisdom Thanks and I will head back to the gym tomorrow to start my Day #1. Good luck to your adventure in Singapore. Photo from Day #0. I hope we will see improvement in my next photo. Btw, i am wearing my Uniqlo heat-tech T-shirt and it keeps my temp up the whole time. Like it. ummmm....dude...@wils....you look better right now than half the dudes I see in my gym. Granted I'm only going by this pic, but I see some muscle on your body right now. Look at your calves, you appear to naturally have developed calf muscles. I hate you . My calves are my most stubborn muscle to develop. Also, didn't you say you have a 31.5" actual waist? I can't imagine how anyone can be fat with a waist that small. I think you're going to explode with this Arnold program. Go get it brah!!!! Get some!!!! Thanks. I am definitely not "fat" but I want to be more cut with lean muscle. I also find it a bit more challenging to recover after I turned 35 (10 years ago). Anyway, thanks for the program and I am going to try it tomorrow. 30 reps with 45 seconds rest? Damn... it is going to fun and sore... |
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Post by usctroll on Jan 9, 2015 9:25:19 GMT -6
I love cross fit, but at my age, a lot of the moves make an old guy like me hurt. My problem is I tend to overdo it, and that comes from years of being a gym rat. I have some younger friends that belong to cross fit gym,(boxes), and these guy could probably smoke 99% of the general populace in a fitness faceoff. My best results are from really mixing it up, and throwing in some cross fit stuff, kettle bell work, cardio on a regular basis, and MOST importantly, eating unprocessed foods as much as you can, little to no sugars, and high quality proteins. All this, coupled with a little whisky in the evening, and a good night sleep, and your on your way to a long life. I do Crossfit at 5:30 am and I'm usually the youngest guy there (I'm in my early 30s). The coach should help you scale or modify the WOD, if necessary, to avoid injury. Although I'm pretty sure if I get injured it's going to be from boxing, not crossfit. Last night we did "body conditioning" after our sparring. That consisted of getting blasted over and over in the stomach by my training partner who is my height/weight, 8 years younger and 6% bodyfat. Aaaaargh, hurts so good. |
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Post by Tobesjones on Jan 9, 2015 10:28:43 GMT -6
I love cross fit, but at my age, a lot of the moves make an old guy like me hurt. My problem is I tend to overdo it, and that comes from years of being a gym rat. I have some younger friends that belong to cross fit gym,(boxes), and these guy could probably smoke 99% of the general populace in a fitness faceoff. My best results are from really mixing it up, and throwing in some cross fit stuff, kettle bell work, cardio on a regular basis, and MOST importantly, eating unprocessed foods as much as you can, little to no sugars, and high quality proteins. All this, coupled with a little whisky in the evening, and a good night sleep, and your on your way to a long life. I do Crossfit at 5:30 am and I'm usually the youngest guy there (I'm in my early 30s). The coach should help you scale or modify the WOD, if necessary, to avoid injury. Although I'm pretty sure if I get injured it's going to be from boxing, not crossfit. Last night we did "body conditioning" after our sparring. That consisted of getting blasted over and over in the stomach by my training partner who is my height/weight, 8 years younger and 6% bodyfat. Aaaaargh, hurts so good. Also early 30s and I think I am going to give the Crossfit cult a go next week. That is if I decide to bail on marathon training due to my foot absolutely killing me on days after long runs. Do you think two days a week is enough? Or is three the way to go? I figure a couple days a week with some cardio on the side will be a good plan. Just need a little convincing to get over the $$$ aspect. Although funds can be easily shifted from my denim budget (don't hate, I think after 10 pairs in 2014 I can take a breather). As for diet, I went Paleo cold turkey after Xmas and haven't looked back. Besides the first week where my body adjusted..... feeling fantastic. |
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Post by davelewis on Jan 9, 2015 10:32:33 GMT -6
I love cross fit, but at my age, a lot of the moves make an old guy like me hurt. My problem is I tend to overdo it, and that comes from years of being a gym rat. I have some younger friends that belong to cross fit gym,(boxes), and these guy could probably smoke 99% of the general populace in a fitness faceoff. My best results are from really mixing it up, and throwing in some cross fit stuff, kettle bell work, cardio on a regular basis, and MOST importantly, eating unprocessed foods as much as you can, little to no sugars, and high quality proteins. All this, coupled with a little whisky in the evening, and a good night sleep, and your on your way to a long life. I do Crossfit at 5:30 am and I'm usually the youngest guy there (I'm in my early 30s). The coach should help you scale or modify the WOD, if necessary, to avoid injury. Although I'm pretty sure if I get injured it's going to be from boxing, not crossfit. Last night we did "body conditioning" after our sparring. That consisted of getting blasted over and over in the stomach by my training partner who is my height/weight, 8 years younger and 6% bodyfat. Aaaaargh, hurts so good. Since I'm retired, no more 5:30am workouts for me. LOL. When I was still working, a couple of guys, and myself would look up the WOD from the website, and give it a go. The thing I liked about cross fit, is when I would work at a different fire station other than my regular assignment, I would for the most part, be able to kick ass on the 25-50 year old guys, and I was 55. I would definitely have to modify the WOD to make sure I wouldn't injure myself. Like I wouldn't be able to press a barbell with 135lb. overhead, while doing squats. |
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Post by ickes on Jan 9, 2015 10:39:30 GMT -6
thumbs up Tobesjones on the Paleo diet. I have never tried it myself, although my diet right now is not too far from it, but I have a friend who has been eating the Paleo diet for years and it is obvious that it works. As for Crossfit...yeah, not my thing. Way too gimmicky for me, too much of a brand and has the feel of being one of the latest trends in working out a la jazzercise (lol...jazzercise), P90X, Insanity, etc....I'm not saying that any of these "trend" workout programs don't work and aren't or can't be effective, they just aren't my thing. |
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