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Post by ickes on Jan 13, 2015 23:05:37 GMT -6
Here's the Italian Raw Umber campaign, if anyone was curious. I got QC's out of an XL slim Slate Blue Twill and just ordered the L Classic Slate Blue twill from the stock store, I'll let you guys know how it turns out. It should have the new buttons, which I've been trying unsuccessfully to get a shirt with for the last few months. when I go to the stock store there is nothing there.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 13, 2015 23:07:57 GMT -6
Here's the Italian Raw Umber campaign, if anyone was curious. I got QC's out of an XL slim Slate Blue Twill and just ordered the L Classic Slate Blue twill from the stock store, I'll let you guys know how it turns out. It should have the new buttons, which I've been trying unsuccessfully to get a shirt with for the last few months. when I go to the stock store there is nothing there. they recently locked it down to recent return / qc issues store.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 13, 2015 23:21:48 GMT -6
Here's the Italian Raw Umber campaign, if anyone was curious. I got QC's out of an XL slim Slate Blue Twill and just ordered the L Classic Slate Blue twill from the stock store, I'll let you guys know how it turns out. It should have the new buttons, which I've been trying unsuccessfully to get a shirt with for the last few months. FWIW, mine came in exactly on spec and had absolutely no shrinkage whatsoever after a warm cycle wash and medium tumble dry. So you may be alright with the L Classic. It's a beautiful material, and the new buttons are a significant improvement. I would call them normal decent shirting buttons now instead of worryingly flimsy like the old ones. Still not $175-300 shirt worthy, but certainly a big step up. That said, it is frustrating that Gustin insists on cutting their shirts like a f!@king 1950s poodle skirt. Most of your customers seem to be reasonably fit male human beings, fellas, not mutant overgrown pears. My waist and hips do not need more room than my chest. Thank you. So yeah, I see a trip to the tailor in my future to see if they can taper this shirt down a bit. I may try a L Tall instead of the XL Tall on one of the cheaper decent-looking shirts (the charcoal chambray that's up right now, for example) just to see if that's any better. I had been worried that I would go L Tall on the Slate Blue Twill and it would come in on the small side and/or shrink a lot. Not so. My last three G shirts have all sewn up true to size, so maybe it's safe to back something in my actual size now instead of trying to guess whether the shop will sew it up one size too small.
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 14, 2015 7:27:20 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 14, 2015 7:50:27 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. At this point I wish they'd made more of my size and less classic large, but if it's garbage it'll go back and I'll demand a refund.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 14, 2015 9:28:30 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. These are jeans and not shirts, but I recently made my first two Stock purchases (Zim18, Taupes) and they were both sewed to spec* with zero significant errors as far as I can tell. Again, just my experience and not meant to discount or discredit anyone else's. And of course the shirts are a whole different kettle of fish. The items I've received over the last six months or so suggest to me that Gustin is pretty much killing it across the board on their jeans but the button-down shirts are still a bit of a gamble to say the least.
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Post by Mattbert on Jan 14, 2015 9:30:22 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. These are jeans and not shirts, but I recently made my first two Stock purchases (Zim18, Taupes) and they were both sewed to spec* with zero significant errors as far as I can tell. Again, just my experience and not meant to discount or discredit anyone else's. And of course the shirts are a whole different kettle of fish. The items I've received over the last six months or so suggest to me that Gustin is pretty much killing it across the board on their jeans but the button-down shirts are still a bit of a gamble to say the least. * Except for the cuff openings. I got my first pair of store-backed Gustins at the end of August. Those, and the eight pairs I've received since (some of which I've sold - settle down), have all been well under spec for the cuff opening. One pair, the Supple16, was at 18" compared to 18.5" spec for a 36 Straight. All the rest have been 17 - 17.5" and are a mix of 35 Straight (18.25" spec) and 36 Straight. And this...is...AWESOME. Honestly, I think it has to be intentional. It's hugely unlikely that I just happened to get that many pairs of jeans (in a range of weights from 10-18oz, no less) that were faithful to the fit guide in all measurements except being consistently 1 - 1.5" under spec on the cuff. My guess is Gustin was listening to the steady drumbeat of feedback that the cuff openings were just too damn big and quietly made the adjustment without making a public spectacle or changing the fit guide. Whatever the reason behind it, if it is in fact intentional and representative of adjusted patterns that will continue to be used for their jeans, two thumbs way WAY up from me. Anyone else notice this trend? Or am I the only one who has backed that many jeans lately and also obsessively measures them and records the data in a spreadsheet?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 9:54:27 GMT -6
Anyone see the IG pics of the new flannels? Gustin doing Gustin things by bringing in beautiful fabrics. 2 & 3 are my favorites.
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Post by marauder on Jan 14, 2015 10:03:23 GMT -6
Yeah, I really like 3.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 14, 2015 10:13:16 GMT -6
Anyone see the IG pics of the new flannels? Gustin doing Gustin things by bringing in beautiful fabrics. 2 & 3 are my favorites. I look at those and think "I've seen those 50 times before". Not saying they're not nice, but are they really unique? Not to me. Not to mention Feb is almost here. They need to get in sync with seasonal planning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 10:23:59 GMT -6
Anyone see the IG pics of the new flannels? Gustin doing Gustin things by bringing in beautiful fabrics. 2 & 3 are my favorites. I look at those and think "I've seen those 50 times before". Not saying they're not nice, but are they really unique? Not to me. Not to mention Feb is almost here. They need to get in sync with seasonal planning. I totally get what you're saying. But with shirts, we've probably seen every design under the sun 50 times before, especially if it's flannel. It's still unique to Gustin, and they look like a solid design if you don't have a similar fabric in your closet. With that said, I won't be pulling the trigger on any of those. Buy kudos to Gustin for keeping the new year fresh with new fabrics.
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Post by ickes on Jan 14, 2015 10:40:24 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. My Okayama Standards that I received from the stock store a couple of weeks ago are bang on to specs as well. No flaws to be found.
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Post by ickes on Jan 14, 2015 10:42:57 GMT -6
Anyone see the IG pics of the new flannels? Gustin doing Gustin things by bringing in beautiful fabrics. 2 & 3 are my favorites. I like 2, 3, and 4. Bet they'll be dropping some tomorrow so I'll have a better idea once I see more campaign pics but so far those are the ones I'm liking. Once again, G is starting 2015 off very well imo.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 14, 2015 10:47:31 GMT -6
Anyone see the IG pics of the new flannels? Gustin doing Gustin things by bringing in beautiful fabrics. 2 & 3 are my favorites. I like 2, 3, and 4. Bet they'll be dropping some tomorrow so I'll have a better idea once I see more campaign pics but so far those are the ones I'm liking. Once again, G is starting 2015 off very well imo. The only shirts from Gustin that float my boat are the work shirts, and since there's no 3XL, I can't get one. Still hoping on that LD to set me up. Maybe even before I have my next birthday!
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 14, 2015 17:05:04 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. My Okayama Standards that I received from the stock store a couple of weeks ago are bang on to specs as well. No flaws to be found. Also some of the perceived flaws aren't exactly flaws by Gustin standards like patterns aligning I have no experiances myself. I like the flannels but I ask myself are they $76 worth shirts. I can't justify it.
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Post by ickes on Jan 14, 2015 17:27:07 GMT -6
My Okayama Standards that I received from the stock store a couple of weeks ago are bang on to specs as well. No flaws to be found. Also some of the perceived flaws aren't exactly flaws by Gustin standards like patterns aligning I have no experiances myself. I like the flannels but I ask myself are they $76 worth shirts. I can't justify it. IMO the GUSTIN shirts can be justified as a 76 dollar shirt more than the IH shirts can be justified as a 345 dollar shirt.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 17:39:45 GMT -6
Also some of the perceived flaws aren't exactly flaws by Gustin standards like patterns aligning I have no experiances myself. I like the flannels but I ask myself are they $76 worth shirts. I can't justify it. IMO the GUSTIN shirts can be justified as a 76 dollar shirt more than the IH shirts can be justified as a 345 dollar shirt. Kinda agree and I don't think anyone can justified the IH shirts as a $345 shirt except Selfedge. However, I can totally justified IH shirt as a $160 shirt and that was the price that I paid. On Gustin, I only have four shirts (Wabisabi, HS WS, Bright Plaid, Black Plaid?) and none of the shirt justified for the price that I paid. The way I judge is if I see them on the store shelf, am I going to buy them at the prices that I paid. The answer is a big "no".
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Post by ickes on Jan 14, 2015 17:45:19 GMT -6
IMO the GUSTIN shirts can be justified as a 76 dollar shirt more than the IH shirts can be justified as a 345 dollar shirt. Kinda agree and I don't think anyone can justified the IH shirts as a $345 shirt except Selfedge. However, I can totally justified IH shirt as a $160 shirt and that was the price that I paid. On Gustin, I only have four shirts (Wabisabi, HS WS, Bright Plaid, Black Plaid?) and none of the shirt justified for the price that I paid. The way I judge is if I see them on the store shelf, am I going to buy them at the prices that I paid. The answer is a big "no". Well Selfedge and Iron Heart UK both sell the IH shirts at the same prices...and yes, at Rakuten prices IH gear is justifiable, I agree.
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Post by jamesr on Jan 14, 2015 17:49:16 GMT -6
Also some of the perceived flaws aren't exactly flaws by Gustin standards like patterns aligning I have no experiances myself. I like the flannels but I ask myself are they $76 worth shirts. I can't justify it. IMO the GUSTIN shirts can be justified as a 76 dollar shirt more than the IH shirts can be justified as a 345 dollar shirt. I don't think Gustin shirts are worth $76, at least not for me. Construction is not good. Scoops are weird. On me, the fit is not great. The fabrics look good, but who really cares about the fabric if those other factors are off? IH shirts are brilliant. Not $345 brilliant, but definitely Rakuten-price brilliant.
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Post by jamesr on Jan 14, 2015 17:54:51 GMT -6
Oh, and the American 16ers I received about a week ago and was so happy with are not as good as I thought.
Started wearing them and felt like something wasn't right. Got home, measured them, and found that one leg is 1/4" narrower than the other. Guess I should have measured both legs before declaring them a QC pass.
In fairness to Gustin, they gave me a full refund immediately.
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 14, 2015 18:50:07 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. I'm sure those are returned items they are re-selling. Kills me that they are asking full price, or more for them. They seem to be adding $5 to the prices which I'm going to speculate is the shipping $$ they reimbursed to the returner that they are trying to recoup.
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 14, 2015 19:03:09 GMT -6
On Gustin, I only have four shirts (Wabisabi, HS WS, Bright Plaid, Black Plaid?) and none of the shirt justified for the price that I paid. The way I judge is if I see them on the store shelf, am I going to buy them at the prices that I paid. The answer is a big "no". I came to this realization myself recently. In the past I've only spent $75+ on a shirt if I thought it was killer. The Gustin shirts (assuming we are talking about a perfect example w/no issues) make me say 'yeah, I'd wear this' but aren't anything to get excited over. I used to think the extra $$ spent on a Gustin shirt over a similar department store or mall shirt was $$ well spent just for the made in USA factor. But when the workmanship on the G shirt is subpar to a mall purchased shirt, at 2-3 times the price...F it, I'm out!
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Post by oatwilly on Jan 14, 2015 19:05:35 GMT -6
Anyone see the IG pics of the new flannels? Gustin doing Gustin things by bringing in beautiful fabrics. 2 & 3 are my favorites. I like 2, 3, and 4. Bet they'll be dropping some tomorrow so I'll have a better idea once I see more campaign pics but so far those are the ones I'm liking. Once again, G is starting 2015 off very well imo. Are they heavy flannel, just in time for late spring/summer?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 19:06:41 GMT -6
On Gustin, I only have four shirts (Wabisabi, HS WS, Bright Plaid, Black Plaid?) and none of the shirt justified for the price that I paid. The way I judge is if I see them on the store shelf, am I going to buy them at the prices that I paid. The answer is a big "no". I came to this realization myself recently. In the past I've only spent $75+ on a shirt if I thought it was killer. The Gustin shirts (assuming we are talking about a perfect example w/no issues) make me say 'yeah, I'd wear this' but aren't anything to get excited over. I used to think the extra $$ spent on a Gustin shirt over a similar department store or mall shirt was $$ well spent just for the made in USA factor. But when the workmanship on the G shirt is subpar to a mall purchased shirt, at 2-3 times the price...F it, I'm out! I'd be willing to ay the price if I had confidence in the construction, as some of the fabrics are great. The added $5 on the stock store is to cover their additional cost of the fulfillment center (from what we've been told)
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 14, 2015 20:20:40 GMT -6
I heard of a few issues with items being sold in the stock store. Some people have claimed they appeared to be selling seconds. I'm sure those are returned items they are re-selling. Kills me that they are asking full price, or more for them. They seem to be adding $5 to the prices which I'm going to speculate is the shipping $$ they reimbursed to the returner that they are trying to recoup. Exactly items that were returned for whatever reason, some just got the wrong size, but they are resold with most being $5 more and 100% that is a connivence fee. I haven't bought anything from the stock store and doesn't look like I will be anytime soon. ickes - IH on rakuten is def worth the money. Hell even if you don't like it sell it for more since you are now a US seller! I do think the ihsh-102 is worth the $250 I paid since I wear it as a shirt or jacket and it's super versatile. I have had a decent amount of G shirts and I really like the organic cotton chambray, charcoal grey twill but other poplins and flannels I didn't care for, for the price that is.
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