Lawless Reviews

Italy Pink ID

Ciano Farmer Kickstarter Campaign (about a third of the way down)

I'm gonna say the color is probably off in the picture and this is it in the Lawless Kickstarter campaign.

Doesn't appear to be on Pacific Blue anymore.

I think if I were a betting man, I'd bet on it being whatever Gustin used, since official report from Gustin was that theirs was 100% cotton. Maybe Candiani did a couple different runs with the wide pink selvedge, in both 100% cotton and the 98%. I will say that you'd have to get me in a room with Bill Cosby before I'd accept that the Levi's denim is the same fabric that Lawless shipped you -- though it does match that swatch from the Lawless KS campaign.

Some great looking items there.

The ID on my Lawless jeans doesn't look pink at all. It looks exactly like the ID on the Levi's.

yeah it does. shit. sorry man.

Looks pretty good. The backpockets looks bigger now, how are they?

I like the color of the blue pair, a little uncertain of the thought of the white/black but looks fine from here.

Finally got my order in and I have been following this whole saga for a while now, so I'm happy to be leaving this review. (It ended up being stupid long so I tried to essentialize it as much as possible.)

I placed my order on Nov. 3rd, it was in the mid 300's: 1 x 12 oz. Cone Mills Indigo Double Selvedge Men's Jeans (Fit: Straight Leg, Waist: 32, Inseam (inches): 34, Hardware: Gun Metal, Thread Color: Red, Denim Tag: Katana 2, Jeans Fly: Button Fly, Pocket Liner: Pink houndstooth Canvas, Chain-Stitch Hem: Double Chain-Stitch Hem)

The Good:
- I'm really happy with how they turned out.
- They seem to have fulfilled every detail from the original order, including the houndstooth liner, red thread, etc. that I was sure wasn't coming. (Interestingly, they called me around week 15 to tell me they were going to use some green weft denim, but it seems they found something identical or almost identical to the original.)
- The "Bad" and the "Ugly" (below) are, paradoxically, what actually what got me to this forum, and I'm happy to have found it.

The Bad:
- Wait time, obviously.
- Shipped to wrong address that Sal had corrected for me months ago. Had to FedEx them to myself.
- Waist is a little tight, but that is easily resolvable and probably my fault anyways.

The Ugly:
- The way in which the backlog was handled, specifically in regard to customer relations. Can't speak for others, but I know if I had gotten an email that said 1) "We're backed up because we got WAY more order than ever intended and it's going to take 20-30 weeks," and 2) "We're not going to be able to fulfill X orders with Y specifics, so please reselect from Z options," it would have pretty much been a non-issue. For $50 I sure wasn't going to complain. (I realize some people had much larger orders.)
- The sometimes pedantic and patronizing way in which the company chose to respond to customers, often on public forums - the lectures about how quality takes time, the infamous Ferrari comparison, etc. (And I totally think the trolling they received was unjustified, but as a business I'd think you HAVE to take the higher road.) Also, I have to admit, I was hardly engaged in this whole debacle until I accidentally noticed - and I swear I noticed this by accident without direct investigation - that one day one of the employees had changed their name on Facebook and started leaving reviews. After hours and hours of reading, I understand why, but holy shit it looked bad from a passing, outsider's perspective.

Overall: As others have stated, I'm a bit torn. I'm honestly more upset with others' experiences much more so than my own. On the one hand, if they go deadstock in the future I would definitely consider buying more. On the other hand, they burned so many people without any seeming remorse that the brand has left a bad taste in my mouth.


With that said, check it out:

That makes me so much more upset about what they sent me, and never responded to my complaint about.

cbiscuit we picked similar options.

I went with red bags though.
The red stitching is growing on me.

I wasn't sure I'd even wear them after opening. I'll have to give them a spin and see now though.

Your photos reminded me of something I keep meaning to mention... unlike every other brand I have had experience of, Lawless have, for some reason, decided to use the pattern side of the pocket bag material for the inside of the pockets. It's really strange because nobody ever really sees the inside of the pocket bags and yet you do see the outside of the pocket bags whenever the jeans are taken off or put on.

Something else I noticed (that doesn't make much sense) is that my pocket lining material is the black & white striped canvas. On the rear pockets and watch pocket lining they've run it vertical and yet on the two front pocket bags they've run it horizontal. Doesn't bother me - and I do really like the pockets material against the black denim pair I have - but it just puzzles me why they weren't consistent throughout.

Mine all run the same direction (vertical stripes, internal).