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Post by ickes on Nov 4, 2014 2:32:51 GMT -6
I'm kind of between an XL and L actually when I factor in shrinkage. These will shrink I'm assuming..,wonder what the estimated shrinkage is..
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Post by warpnweft on Nov 4, 2014 2:54:49 GMT -6
I'm kind of between an XL and L actually when I factor in shrinkage. These will shrink I'm assuming..,wonder what the estimated shrinkage is.. It really just depends on the fabrics. All of the denim is sanforized, so any shrinkage will be minimal (<1")..... (Similar to how the IxI WS on G does not shrink much, compared to the looser fabric of the HS WS which had considerable shrinkage) |
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Post by Winterland on Nov 4, 2014 3:32:48 GMT -6
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Post by thomasss on Nov 4, 2014 3:33:15 GMT -6
Hey all, first time posting! Any Idea what size Type II jacket Roman is wearing? I'm confused about the jacket sizing. yep definitly, he answered me directly : it' an L. I'm 6"2 and 189 and he told me to take an XL.... if it can help. |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 4, 2014 4:06:22 GMT -6
Its common for jacket ordering that you use actual body measurements. Aero, Goodwear etc does it this way.
I can see both sides of it, but for a simple thing like jeans and shirts i have comfortably measured a good fitting pair and ordered after that with success at IH, Gustin etc.
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Nov 4, 2014 6:50:53 GMT -6
IH is 404 for how to measure 3sixteen is 404 for how to measure blueingreensoho is Gustin method and not true to size selvedge is Gustin method rivetandhide is Gustin method tateandyoko doesn't seem to have a guide? nudiejeans is Gustin method I don't think they are doing it wrong they are doing it different, but their pattern makers know how to translate measurements taken in this method into appropriately sized patterns. Lawless is doing true to size to create patterns. This is what I am used to seeing after having several suits and shirts custom made. In fact when getting measured for my most recent sport coat the tailor wrote my true chest size of 41 on his little card and then mumbled about making the coat 44 to allow for movement and layering. But I think I see what you are saying. Everyone should do true to size so that you would take the same size in IH, 3sixteen, nudie, etc and because it is how things actually work if you work with a tailor to have something made. |
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Post by jbcoulier on Nov 4, 2014 7:16:29 GMT -6
I didn't measure my jeans but myself with a tape. I think that the two are different. G asks you to measure the jeans, but LD is asking you to use a tape on yourself to get true measure from your body. Maybe this helps the confusion?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 8:43:27 GMT -6
Measuring garment is an one person job. Measuring body needs two people. For many of the buyers, there are no another person. Getting the correct size can be a lot more challenging. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 10:24:04 GMT -6
I don't see anyone here not understanding the concept of measuring their bodies vs the garment. I think what people are confused by is that there is such a bump in size between the body and garment. For each size it appears the shirts add 4" (slim) or 6" (standard) on top of the real chest measurement, which 'seems' like it will result in a potentially baggy fit even for the slim cut. Even in JB's example a few posts up he mentions his tailor adding 3" to his chest size for a coat to allow layering, etc...and a coat should be a bit more forgiving than a shirt I'd think.
On top of that, it seems to me that the shoulder measurements seem a bit wide as well. I have fairly wide shoulders for my frame, and finding shirts that fit my chest to typically be a bit snug in the shoulders. However with LD's chart, it seems that the shoulders are even a bit wider than what I'd typically need... and quite a bit wider than what other brands offer.
It could be adjustment for shrinkage...I'm not sure.
I know we can also add in the notes during our order what measurements we want, but most customers not on this site won't know that.
All said... I'm probably going to size down from what I ordered and can't wait to get my shirts.
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Post by Griffin on Nov 4, 2014 11:02:58 GMT -6
It could be that the chest goues out abit and becomes the arms and if measured very high up under the arms will give a little wider specs. Having said that, I measured a gustin shirt that is tight and a comfy shirt that is slightly baggy and the LD shirt comes in betwee these wich is great for me. Im planning on wearing these with a tshirt under. If they are good, then wash cold, if they are big, wash warm and tumble.....usually works. Just need this first order to lock in the fit. I actually sent a mail today changing from slim to regular and shorter back and front.
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Post by bpoosoc on Nov 4, 2014 11:34:09 GMT -6
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Nov 4, 2014 11:48:08 GMT -6
I don't see anyone here not understanding the concept of measuring their bodies vs the garment. I think what people are confused by is that there is such a bump in size between the body and garment. For each size it appears the shirts add 4" (slim) or 6" (standard) on top of the real chest measurement, which 'seems' like it will result in a potentially baggy fit even for the slim cut. Even in JB's example a few posts up he mentions his tailor adding 3" to his chest size for a coat to allow layering, etc...and a coat should be a bit more forgiving than a shirt I'd think. On top of that, it seems to me that the shoulder measurements seem a bit wide as well. I have fairly wide shoulders for my frame, and finding shirts that fit my chest to typically be a bit snug in the shoulders. However with LD's chart, it seems that the shoulders are even a bit wider than what I'd typically need... and quite a bit wider than what other brands offer. It could be adjustment for shrinkage...I'm not sure. I know we can also add in the notes during our order what measurements we want, but most customers not on this site won't know that. All said... I'm probably going to size down from what I ordered and can't wait to get my shirts. @david the tailor may have said 45 (he was mumbling), but we'll see when I go back in a few weeks for the fitting. The shoulders are something I struggle with. I have square shoulders but they are narrow at 18 in. So the L slim fit is almost perfect for me except for being 1.5 in too wide in the shoulders and that will then carry down to make the sleeves too long. I may speak with Roman about adding some text to the product configuration that encourages people to include their measurements in their order notes, if he hasn't done so already. |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 4, 2014 12:59:51 GMT -6
Im also no newbie, and really cannot fathom a 44" chest being able to wear a 45" shirt. It must be hellatight? Are you sure your not talking about a shirt shat has the number 45 on it? Chest measurement: Soft tape around your body = 44" P2P: 0.5" under the arms straight across a lying shirt you usually wear x2 = 45" ^ you mean this? For me: A shirt w/ p2p of 44" ---> "hellatight" " " " 45" ---> "Tailored fit" " " " 46" ---> "slim, but comfortable" " " " 48" ---> "baggy for a shirt, but good for coat" " " " 50" ---> "MuMu status" A 44 for you should be painted on. You wouldnt be able to sit without popping buttons or even breathe with snap-buttons. Or did you mean 44" inhaled? |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 4, 2014 13:10:40 GMT -6
I do understand your problem, but still, by your measureing you would fit a Gustin L that has a 45 1/2 chest.
Problem is, it doesnt even fit me and im a 39" chest and I have to buy the XL (47 1/2).
I measured 2 shirts today and:
My Chest: 39.something
Tight shirt: 43
Comfy shirt: 46
Yes the comfy is not perfect fit, but neither is the tight one. I actually have trouble breathing in the 43 shirt.
Im just hoping that the LD with slimmer waist then my 46 will fit good. I can always shrink if its a little big. I also plan on using them with a t-shirt under since some of them are kinda thick.
I did everything right with the Gustin shirts and actually startet with a medium and now im on the xl that I have to wash warm and tumble dry, then was again and hang dry. I also have a coupple of L that is too small. So no matter what, you gotta lock in the fit with a new company with a testshirt. I would go with the 48 if I were you, but have no idea if this is right or wrong.
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Post by davelewis on Nov 4, 2014 13:20:57 GMT -6
Thanks for the advice, but I'm not a newbie, I know my measurements.... All I'm saying is this shirt chart is questionable... No man in their right mind who has a 44" chest, would go and buy a shirt/jacket at 50" unless he intended to have 3 layers on underneath... Im also no newbie, and really cannot fathom a 44" chest being able to wear a 45" shirt. It must be hellatight? Are you sure your not talking about a shirt shat has the number 45 on it? Chest measurement: Soft tape around your body = 44" P2P: 0.5" under the arms straight across a lying shirt you usually wear x2 = 45" ^ you mean this? I suppose everyone is different, but I have a measured 44.5 chest, and my best fitting shirts measure 25" p-p. I have some shirts that measure 48" p-p, and they are on the verge of pulling on the buttons. So there you go. |
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Post by warpnweft on Nov 4, 2014 13:36:43 GMT -6
Ya don't know what to tell you guys..... If I wore a shirt with a 50" p2p I could stick pillow up the shirt
Maybe it's different body styles.... Pretty muscular, 5'9" ~ 200 lbs 44" chest 20" shoulders 35" waist, I was a running back in college, and still have the same same body type I guess.
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Post by davelewis on Nov 4, 2014 13:51:32 GMT -6
Ya don't know what to tell you guys..... If I wore a shirt with a 50" p2p I could stick pillow up the shirt Maybe it's different body styles.... Pretty muscular, 5'9" ~ 200 lbs 44" chest 20" shoulders 35" waist, I was a running back in college, and still have the same same body type I guess. Yea, its weird how it works. 6'2", 185-190lb., depending on beer consumed, 44" chest, 20" shoulders, 34" waist, but 50" is perfect for splitting the difference between too large, and too tight. I am older than most here, and don't like tight fitting clothes, where what I think is too tight for me, is in another persons wheel house. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 13:52:32 GMT -6
Ya don't know what to tell you guys..... If I wore a shirt with a 50" p2p I could stick pillow up the shirt Maybe it's different body styles.... Pretty muscular, 5'9" ~ 200 lbs 44" chest 20" shoulders 35" waist, I was a running back in college, and still have the same same body type I guess. Damn... you really need a custom shirt... |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 4, 2014 14:44:45 GMT -6
Guys use the chat box for any size questions and certainly utilize the fact that we are custom capable. So if everything works for u but you need a hem to be 28, just pop that in the text box & kazaam you get what you need. We do not want people being unhappy. Yes it can add time because we will have to adjust the pattern but please choose what you want
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Post by bpoosoc on Nov 4, 2014 22:41:53 GMT -6
Hello!
I just want to confirm I'm understanding the sizing chart for Shirts and Jackets.
Is the "Sleeve" and the "Back Length" numbers the actual measurement of the shirt?
If possible, can we have the sleeve length altered? I'm only 5'8" and would like sleeve length to be about 24" from shoulder seam to end of cuffs.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 4, 2014 22:47:13 GMT -6
Hello! I just want to confirm I'm understanding the sizing chart for Shirts and Jackets. Is the "Sleeve" and the "Back Length" numbers the actual measurement of the shirt? If possible, can we have the sleeve length altered? I'm only 5'8" and would like sleeve length to be about 24" from shoulder seam to end of cuffs. You can have the shirt made so it can fit you so anything that is needed to make that happen |
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Post by stinky on Nov 4, 2014 22:54:35 GMT -6
Can I get a pair of jeans with the left inseam at 28" and the right inseam at 34"?
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 4, 2014 23:02:28 GMT -6
Can I get a pair of jeans with the left inseam at 28" and the right inseam at 34"? Sure and U can get ur wife some indigo stretch jeans as well. I just read ur message u left in the chat www.ra-denim.com/11-oz-cone-womens-stretch/ |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 4, 2014 23:03:43 GMT -6
Can I get a pair of jeans with the left inseam at 28" and the right inseam at 34"? That would be some epic cuffing. |
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Post by stinky on Nov 4, 2014 23:09:34 GMT -6
Can I get a pair of jeans with the left inseam at 28" and the right inseam at 34"? Sure and U can get ur wife some indigo stretch jeans as well. I just read ur message u left in the chat www.ra-denim.com/11-oz-cone-womens-stretch/Thx for the followup--Roman hit me up earlier. 2 pairs ordered for wifey. Stretch skinny and Straight Leg non-stretch. Done and done. |
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