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Post by matt on Dec 18, 2015 21:59:04 GMT -6
Saw it last night. Awaiting a "safe time" to discuss further. There's always PM.
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Post by brentkuz on Dec 19, 2015 0:21:39 GMT -6
It's not safe!
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Post by Old26 on Dec 19, 2015 11:02:54 GMT -6
No spoilers. Amazing night. Front row. Going to see it again. Not camping out with the "kid" but grownup fun this round
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Dec 22, 2015 3:06:04 GMT -6
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Post by hopsbreath on Dec 22, 2015 3:06:04 GMT -6
Saw TFA this weekend and really enjoyed it! I'll let someone else be the first to drop spoilers, but I definitely left the theater more excited about the next one than when I left Phantom Menace opening weekend. No spoilers yet...too soon and many haven't seen it!
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Dec 26, 2015 19:02:10 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Dec 26, 2015 19:02:10 GMT -6
Just saw it. I've enjoyed the first movies but not a BIG fan. This one .......
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Post by variable on Dec 26, 2015 20:36:14 GMT -6
Saw it Christmas night. Big turnout for a 7pm show on a holiday, I thought.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 26, 2015 20:42:14 GMT -6
Just saw it. I've enjoyed the first movies but not a BIG fan. This one ....... What does the ....... mean? I liked it a lot but there are people that still haven't seen it for some goddam reason so apparently one still isn't allowed to talk about it. Edit: I will say that all the articles complaining about plot holes that are actually just unanswered questions they have from the first of a trilogy of films are starting to annoy me. I also think they should have paid Abrams and Kasdan whatever they needed to keep the team together for all three films, but Disney seems to have gotten this universe thing down with all the Marvel practice, and they're picking some good talent to direct the next two.
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Dec 26, 2015 21:41:42 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Dec 26, 2015 21:41:42 GMT -6
Just saw it. I've enjoyed the first movies but not a BIG fan. This one ....... What does the ....... mean? I liked it a lot but there are people that still haven't seen it for some goddam reason so apparently one still isn't allowed to talk about it. Edit: I will say that all the articles complaining about plot holes that are actually just unanswered questions they have from the first of a trilogy of films are starting to annoy me. I also think they should have paid Abrams and Kasdan whatever they needed to keep the team together for all three films, but Disney seems to have gotten this universe thing down with all the Marvel practice, and they're picking some good talent to direct the next two. I don't want to give anything away. But I think Ill be the dissenting point of view.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Dec 27, 2015 7:28:29 GMT -6
I've seen it three times. Got better each time. Love it. There are some problems, but I love it.
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Dec 27, 2015 7:44:49 GMT -6
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Post by DigDug on Dec 27, 2015 7:44:49 GMT -6
I've seen it three times. Got better each time. Love it. There are some problems, but I love it. I'll explain it as being "Messy".
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Post by variable on Dec 27, 2015 17:45:13 GMT -6
Just saw it. I've enjoyed the first movies but not a BIG fan. This one ....... I liked it a lot but there are people that still haven't seen it for some goddam reason so apparently one still isn't allowed to talk about it. I'm keeping mum because of the holidays, travel et al, people might not have had a chance to see it yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2016 3:12:20 GMT -6
So, gentleman..... I spent this holiday weekend locked in front of the boob-tube watching all 6 of the original films (In "machete order", have you)..... And, as a Star Wars virgin, I'll tell you that "machete order" sucks!
So, after watching them in order (With Ep. 1 included), my hypothesis is that "machete order" was thought up by some super nerd SW fan who wanted to keep "certain things" preserved in an attempt to recreate the nostalgic feeling that they felt back in the day when first watching 4, 5 & 6... From a newbie perspective, it doesn't mean SQUAT!
It doesn't follow an intelligible or intuitive timeline, at all. And, I really think it would have been easier, as a newb, to digest in episode order. It gives a person time to fall in love with the characters and story BEFORE having to endure the weak storylines, bad graphics and EVEN WORSE acting in 4, 5 & 6. I mean, iKNOW how old the original ones are, but geez!!!
Also, my newb observation is that Ep. 1 gets an unnecessary bad reputation. Yes, it CAN be left out and the entire story still makes sense in any order, but, from where I stand it is the only movie in the entire series (First 6) to properly developed a character (Anakin).
I'm standing by waiting to be flamed, but I think most of my points are valid. I've talked it through with my nerdy IT co-workers, and they agree on where I'm coming from.
Caveat:
Watch this video, and rewatch 1, 2 & 3..... Theory seems airtight, and it totally rescues Ep. 1 from the shit pile.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 4, 2016 9:35:26 GMT -6
(facepalm)
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Post by bentin on Jan 4, 2016 10:55:01 GMT -6
Finally saw it, avoided this thread assuming there was a real discussion in here. What gives? Mr Mc Beal eats Mr Girls lighty light stick. Oh no. If you're looking in here, you'd better have seen it.
So excited to have the series back and can go on pretending the "first" three just didn't exist. Is the next movie up the Han back story?
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 4, 2016 11:37:10 GMT -6
Finally saw it, avoided this thread assuming there was a real discussion in here. What gives? Mr Mc Beal eats Mr Girls lighty light stick. Oh no. If you're looking in here, you'd better have seen it. So excited to have the series back and can go on pretending the "first" three just didn't exist. Is the next movie up the Han back story? No, next up is the backstory on the stealing of the Death Star plans. How the spies accomplished that. Darth Vader and Tarkin set to appear, through some visual trickery and moviemaking magic no doubt. Rumor is that "Wedge" will also be a character. No Jedi. Only mercenaries. It occurs in the time frame post "Rebels" TV show (my daughter is into it, so I watched it...not bad) and pre-"A New Hope." It's called "Rogue One," and should conceivably end right before Leia's ship is boarded by Darth Vader. The Godzilla 2014 director is directing. Should be good.
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Post by exophobe on Jan 4, 2016 16:47:26 GMT -6
@untucked - the problem is that none of the work done in episode 1 is ever paid off. It makes the relationship between Anakin and Padme weird (he was 8 when she was 16, in episode 2 they're both about 20), Quigon Jinn may as well never have existed, Pod Racing is irrelevant, Darth Maul is done, and the trade federation is only tangentially involved for the next two movies. It was poorly planned, poorly executed, and largely a waste of time -- though for the most part quite entertaining. If it were it's own story, fine, but as a conceived part of a three movie arc, the second part renders the first completely useless. The only actual character developed by the telling of that part of the story was Kenobi (and maybe Padme), and he's not the main character. The story in Episode 1 could have been told in 25 minutes as the prologue to the Anakin Skywalker Jedi training and downfall. There are weak parts in the next two movies, but overall I like episodes two and three, and think part three actually holds up. There are mistakes all over the things, but if you put any sort of fantasy under a microscope it tends to fall apart. The interesting thing about the machete order, though, is that if you read into why it's beneficial, you've already spoiled every bit of why you should bother with the watching order. As I worked through it, I actually was less impressed by it than I was the description. On paper, it's great to have the whole Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker mystery intact when going into A New Hope. If you already know the story from the original trilogy, though, and it's not spoiling anything, I think I agree with you that it's better to watch them in numerical order. Back in the day, however, one of the best things about star wars was the cliffhanger at the end of Empire/five. Since it's so ingrained in pop culture these days, the only people that can benefit from this are really children or people who have never been exposed to Star Wars or heard anything about it (at this point, no one). So in hindsight, episode 1 was a throwaway, which certainly colors opinion of the film -- and since it was always part of a planned trilogy (though the episode one documentary indicates he started writing part two after finishing part one, which actually explains a lot, and I believe identifies Lucas' difficulties as a writer), it makes no sense that it is only tangentially applicable to the rest of the prequels. Had they been in more practiced hands, though, I think they would have been more cohesive as a set of films, and better fed into the existing trilogy (rather than the jarring shift of art direction and tone in the last 30 minutes of episode three to look and start to feel like A New Hope). It's easy to look back at this, and it's easy to criticize George Lucas having never been faced with the blank page in 1995. However he built his own mythos by saying that parts 1-9 were already written when he initially came up with Star Wars -- something that is so obviously not true. The man has done huge things to progress the special effects industry, and led a team through ground-breaking things nearly every time he made a film, but he made some films that are pretty hard to defend with the prequels, especially in light of The Force Awakens. I'm going to just leave the complaints about the original trilogy where you left them -- we're supposed to be gentlemen here. I will admit that if they hadn't cast Harrison Ford in the original, it's unlikely there would have been another six movies to debate. They created a significant empire within the film business, though, so it's hard to hate on them too much (especially if you're familiar with Industrial Light and Magic -- as every kid of the 80s (up until the lord of the rings) is whether they ever noticed or not).
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