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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 8:55:39 GMT -6
just curious, how much you normally pay for shipping from big G? Gustin ship jeans to the UK for $23. I can really fathom why it would cost Lawless almost twice that. Wow. that is a lot more. Roman maybe able to help. |
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Post by julian on Oct 9, 2014 8:56:04 GMT -6
julian--the 9x12 padded mailer that G uses is $25 to UK. I've offered before--i'm happy to receive and resend to you. Shipping would end up costing $33 all told, but you wouldn't have to pay VAT. Let me know. Cheers Stinker! Let's see what the response is from Lawless, but I would definitely like to get a pair of these ordered and in to see what they're like. If they sew up well, it seems pretty much the ideal way to buy denim. |
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Post by stinky on Oct 9, 2014 9:00:39 GMT -6
julian--the 9x12 padded mailer that G uses is $25 to UK. I've offered before--i'm happy to receive and resend to you. Shipping would end up costing $33 all told, but you wouldn't have to pay VAT. Let me know. Cheers Stinker! Let's see what the response is from Lawless, but I would definitely like to get a pair of these ordered and in to see what they're like. If they sew up well, it seems pretty much the ideal way to buy denim. Actually, looking into it, if you set the shipment up online, the price is $23.50 (which seems to mesh with the previous post that shipping to UK used to be $23.48). |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 9, 2014 9:03:51 GMT -6
Gustin ship jeans to the UK for $23. I can really fathom why it would cost Lawless almost twice that. It could just be a bug on the homepage. When I ordered a pair last week (to Germany) there was also an option "First Class Package Service (USPS) $23.48". I noticed that this option disapeared. It's probably worth sending them an email. With First class there is a 4 pound max so keep that in mind as well as no tracking once the package makes it out of the US. It also adds a few weeks in my experience whenever I shipped using First Class |
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Post by PaulR on Oct 9, 2014 9:15:57 GMT -6
Need some help. If I were to get a pair of LD jeans, what would be the closest to a 32 straight from Gustin? Also, is there any way to get a better sense of what each of the custom pockets look like? And,finally, how do the Cuff and Cuff Roll customization work?
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 9, 2014 9:25:18 GMT -6
Need some help. If I were to get a pair of LD jeans, what would be the closest to a 32 straight from Gustin? Also, is there any way to get a better sense of what each of the custom pockets look like? And,finally, how do the Cuff and Cuff Roll customization work? Thanks. Hi Paul, With Roman you can tell him what you want the waist to be measured at so you can pretty much decide that. I chose a 36 waist & followed that up with a few tweaks of the measurements on the Lawless page like the thigh being increased to 13. The cuff & cuff roll are basically how you want the bottom of your jeans to look hemmed. For a basic cuff like say Levi's or your Gustins you would choose a 1 inch for something similar to say what is on a chino go 2 inches. The roll I believe is how many times you want the hem to be rolled under which can be taken out later to add some length if shrinkage happens. To be honest I think thats a confusing question & should either be explained on the site or removed lawlessdenim.com/details/ |
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Post by PaulR on Oct 9, 2014 9:49:57 GMT -6
Thanks DD.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 10:19:05 GMT -6
B) Cuff is the size of the cuff you want at the bottom after chainstitching. Chinos naturally have a thicker cuff (4th pic below) This does not mean a cuff that shows the selvedge edge but is the fabric folded over B-1) Cuff roll goes along with the hem at the bottom but is simply asking how many times you want the bottom hemmed rolled before the chainstitch hem is done I know you already know all this but it is weird to have someone ask you how many rolls you want DD I don't think your descriptions are accurate here, the cuffing options are really just related to your overall desired inseam length (regular inseam, if you use a single cuff or double cuff, and what cuff height you like to use). This is based on what Roman indicated when this question was raised during the KS campaign. Here was his answer: Question: What does the 1" or 2" cuff option mean?
Answer: First, identify if you roll your jeans at the bottom (aka "cuff" your jeans). If you answered yes to that, do you roll it just once or twice (aka "single cuff" or "double cuff")? Lastly, you do you prefer your cuff length to be 1", 2" or larger? It may be easiest to first identify what you want your cuff length to be, THEN indicate how many times you roll them.and then in a follow-up: I would need to know your inseam without a cuff then specify if you want a 1" or 2" Cuff and we will make the adjustment. |
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Oct 9, 2014 10:26:18 GMT -6
B) Cuff is the size of the cuff you want at the bottom after chainstitching. Chinos naturally have a thicker cuff (4th pic below) This does not mean a cuff that shows the selvedge edge but is the fabric folded over B-1) Cuff roll goes along with the hem at the bottom but is simply asking how many times you want the bottom hemmed rolled before the chainstitch hem is done I know you already know all this but it is weird to have someone ask you how many rolls you want DD I don't think your descriptions are accurate here, at least based on what Roman indicated when this question was raised during the KS campaign. Here was his answer: Question: What does the 1" or 2" cuff option mean?
Answer: First, identify if you roll your jeans at the bottom (aka "cuff" your jeans). If you answered yes to that, do you roll it just once or twice (aka "single cuff" or "double cuff")? Lastly, you do you prefer your cuff length to be 1", 2" or larger? It may be easiest to first identify what you want your cuff length to be, THEN indicate how many times you roll them.and then in a follow-up: I would need to know your inseam without a cuff then specify if you want a 1" or 2" Cuff and we will make the adjustment.This is exactly what Roman walked me through when I ordered (had him on chat while I ordered). It basically boils down to how much length to add to the inseam to accommodate your cuff and how many times you cuff. I asked why I couldn't just set my inseam to be longer than it actually is and accomplish the same thing and Roman said that would work as well. So you can either request a 34" inseam if you are a true 32" and do single 2" cuff or double 1" cuff or you can request a 32" inseam and then use the single/double and cuff length to have them determine how much length to add (it will probably be more than 2"). |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 9, 2014 10:41:02 GMT -6
B) Cuff is the size of the cuff you want at the bottom after chainstitching. Chinos naturally have a thicker cuff (4th pic below) This does not mean a cuff that shows the selvedge edge but is the fabric folded over B-1) Cuff roll goes along with the hem at the bottom but is simply asking how many times you want the bottom hemmed rolled before the chainstitch hem is done I know you already know all this but it is weird to have someone ask you how many rolls you want DD I don't think your descriptions are accurate here, the cuffing options are really just related to your overall desired inseam length (regular inseam, if you use a single cuff or double cuff, and what cuff height you like to use). This is based on what Roman indicated when this question was raised during the KS campaign. Here was his answer: Question: What does the 1" or 2" cuff option mean?
Answer: First, identify if you roll your jeans at the bottom (aka "cuff" your jeans). If you answered yes to that, do you roll it just once or twice (aka "single cuff" or "double cuff")? Lastly, you do you prefer your cuff length to be 1", 2" or larger? It may be easiest to first identify what you want your cuff length to be, THEN indicate how many times you roll them.and then in a follow-up: I would need to know your inseam without a cuff then specify if you want a 1" or 2" Cuff and we will make the adjustment.WOW thats got me thrown out of wack because it not a good way of wording it then . They way I thought it meant definitely didnt sound right to me but thought it made the most sense. Def a confusing question without explanation |
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Post by Winterland on Oct 9, 2014 10:43:16 GMT -6
Thanks to everyone who have been trying to give ordering help. Until all the bugs are worked out of the website it is kind of a cluster f#*k
As others have mentioned, including me, there needs to be some more descriptions and instructions on the lawless site.
Has anyone ever seen this option included when ordering jeans?
It seems like it could just be left off as customers know what they need to add if they cuff. The easier the ordering process can be the better.
Roman can you give us some clarification on the cuff option?
I will shoot him a PM and email.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 9, 2014 10:44:22 GMT -6
DD I don't think your descriptions are accurate here, at least based on what Roman indicated when this question was raised during the KS campaign. Here was his answer: Question: What does the 1" or 2" cuff option mean?
Answer: First, identify if you roll your jeans at the bottom (aka "cuff" your jeans). If you answered yes to that, do you roll it just once or twice (aka "single cuff" or "double cuff")? Lastly, you do you prefer your cuff length to be 1", 2" or larger? It may be easiest to first identify what you want your cuff length to be, THEN indicate how many times you roll them.and then in a follow-up: I would need to know your inseam without a cuff then specify if you want a 1" or 2" Cuff and we will make the adjustment.This is exactly what Roman walked me through when I ordered (had him on chat while I ordered). It basically boils down to how much length to add to the inseam to accommodate your cuff and how many times you cuff. I asked why I couldn't just set my inseam to be longer than it actually is and accomplish the same thing and Roman said that would work as well. So you can either request a 34" inseam if you are a true 32" and do single 2" cuff or double 1" cuff or you can request a 32" inseam and then use the single/double and cuff length to have them determine how much length to add (it will probably be more than 2"). When you think of it that way a 1 inch cuff is not even something i thought people would use when cuffing so it wasnt even a thought when you are questioning what that option meant. 2 inches & above are where most would start I think but of course nobody measures their cuffs unless you want some sort of impeccable cuff. I stand corrected as I usually do |
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Post by Old26 on Oct 9, 2014 10:50:55 GMT -6
Thanks to everyone who have been trying to give ordering help. Until all the bugs are worked out of the website it is kind of a cluster f#*k As others have mentioned, including me, there needs to be some more descriptions and instructions on the lawless site. Has anyone ever seen this option included when ordering jeans? It seems like it could just be left off as customers know what they need to add if they cuff. The easier the ordering process can be the better. Roman can you give us some clarification on the cuff option? I will shoot him a PM and email. I'm holding off until the dust settles. I don't need anything that badly, and I'd rather see Roman get things under control than add to the mess right now. I'm as excited as anyone here, but I'm not going to dive into the pool unless I know there's water there. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 10:56:58 GMT -6
Thanks to everyone who have been trying to give ordering help. Until all the bugs are worked out of the website it is kind of a cluster f#*k As others have mentioned, including me, there needs to be some more descriptions and instructions on the lawless site. Has anyone ever seen this option included when ordering jeans? It seems like it could just be left off as customers know what they need to add if they cuff. The easier the ordering process can be the better. Roman can you give us some clarification on the cuff option? I will shoot him a PM and email. i've never seen the option, but i've also never been able to order jeans with this level of customization...so choosing a patch or pocket liners is also new. i realize he was trying to make it easier (more modular) for the customer, but it ends up a point of confustion. it would have made more sense for him to just ask for overall inseam length and include a small comment telling the customer to consider cuff length and possible shrinkage. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 9, 2014 11:08:47 GMT -6
Thanks to everyone who have been trying to give ordering help. Until all the bugs are worked out of the website it is kind of a cluster f#*k As others have mentioned, including me, there needs to be some more descriptions and instructions on the lawless site. Has anyone ever seen this option included when ordering jeans? It seems like it could just be left off as customers know what they need to add if they cuff. The easier the ordering process can be the better. Roman can you give us some clarification on the cuff option? I will shoot him a PM and email. I'm holding off until the dust settles. I don't need anything that badly, and I'd rather see Roman get things under control than add to the mess right now. I'm as excited as anyone here, but I'm not going to dive into the pool unless I know there's water there. Yes there needs to be a absolute solid web experience especially since we & I have begun talking the brand up. People navigating over to LD have to be able to order easily & if something is not complete then do not post it because it only makes for a experience where the customer is either confused/frustrated which leads to not buying or a customer looking to just check in to see whats up & compares web issues to what the product will turn out like. |
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Post by wisdom on Oct 9, 2014 16:51:11 GMT -6
I'm holding off until the dust settles. I don't need anything that badly, and I'd rather see Roman get things under control than add to the mess right now. I'm as excited as anyone here, but I'm not going to dive into the pool unless I know there's water there. Yes there needs to be a absolute solid web experience especially since we & I have begun talking the brand up. People navigating over to LD have to be able to order easily & if something is not complete then do not post it because it only makes for a experience where the customer is either confused/frustrated which leads to not buying or a customer looking to just check in to see whats up & compares web issues to what the product will turn out like. This is the truth.. the website needs serious work in navigability and functionality. Although I'm spreading the buzz about Lawless Denim to folks I know, I always add the disclaimer that I haven't personally experienced the quality and the website is still a work in progress, but enough to give you an idea of how it's going to work. There are plenty of things to talk up about Lawless.. such as the Kickstarter, the sweet teaser photos, and interactions with Roman (and his background). I guess there's still some runway before the site needs to be up to scratch, but it needs some significant work, it seems.. I think the big wave will come when the first products start rolling out the door. |
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Post by univibe88 on Oct 9, 2014 19:17:46 GMT -6
The canvas and khaki goes fast. I'll give you a head up on when I have more coming before I offer it up to the public. Excellent! I want those duck canvas pants something fierce. |
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Post by colerussell on Oct 9, 2014 20:38:02 GMT -6
Yes there needs to be a absolute solid web experience especially since we & I have begun talking the brand up. People navigating over to LD have to be able to order easily & if something is not complete then do not post it because it only makes for a experience where the customer is either confused/frustrated which leads to not buying or a customer looking to just check in to see whats up & compares web issues to what the product will turn out like. This is the truth.. the website needs serious work in navigability and functionality. Although I'm spreading the buzz about Lawless Denim to folks I know, I always add the disclaimer that I haven't personally experienced the quality and the website is still a work in progress, but enough to give you an idea of how it's going to work. There are plenty of things to talk up about Lawless.. such as the Kickstarter, the sweet teaser photos, and interactions with Roman (and his background). I guess there's still some runway before the site needs to be up to scratch, but it needs some significant work, it seems.. I think the big wave will come when the first products start rolling out the door. Amen. I'm excited to see what the buzz looks like around here once the products do start rolling in. It's going to be a frenzy! |
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Post by banway on Oct 9, 2014 22:03:10 GMT -6
Are you guys still 2-3 weeks out on your kickstarter orders?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 6:58:33 GMT -6
I just pulled the trigger on a Black x Black workshirt with black thread, and black & copper Lawless donut buttons... I had to. I might get a Natural one, after i see how that kakishibu dye job turns out on the other thread
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Post by julian on Oct 10, 2014 7:28:29 GMT -6
In many ways, this highlights an aspect of Gustin's approach that makes it so much easier to purchase and, hence, them successful.
Yes, I'd love to be able to select all the variables, but at least I know (basically) what I'm getting and only have to click TWICE for them to relieve me of my money.
The problem with adding variables and options in the online environment is that it's never just '4 extra clicks', it always involves so much more than that.
As it stands, when I order from Gustin I'm 90% sure of what I'll receive. With the Lawless site, I'd be about 50% confident of what I'm going to have arrive. At over $100 for overseas purchases, that's a risk I'm not yet prepared to take.
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Post by roman on Oct 10, 2014 7:43:14 GMT -6
Ok guys sorry for the radio silence. Just been working on orders. (yes I sew) as for the web site. I could use some input. We have gone through 3 web designers and no one has got it perfect. I'm not a web designer but I can make some great clothing so I stick to what I know.
That being said how how can I get this working better?
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Post by roman on Oct 10, 2014 7:48:43 GMT -6
Thanks for that. Just put together a pair... but then noticed that the shipping to the UK is $43. I guess they only want US business at the moment. I really like the idea of their process, but it still seems a little 'hit it and hope' to me as I can't really see half the stuff I'm specifying. Also couldn't find a way to specify a plain leather patch. Bit of a shame, as the 15 oz. Niphon Menpu Brown Weft Slub looks great.Julian, We are working on international shipping rate. I'm working on getting it below $25.00 if you have ideas I'm all ears. |
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Post by stinky on Oct 10, 2014 7:52:16 GMT -6
Thanks for that. Just put together a pair... but then noticed that the shipping to the UK is $43. I guess they only want US business at the moment. I really like the idea of their process, but it still seems a little 'hit it and hope' to me as I can't really see half the stuff I'm specifying. Also couldn't find a way to specify a plain leather patch. Bit of a shame, as the 15 oz. Niphon Menpu Brown Weft Slub looks great.Julian, We are working on international shipping rate. I'm working on getting it below $25.00 if you have ideas I'm all ears. roman, the USPS 9x12 flat rate padded envelope is $23.50 to UK below 4 lbs. You can fit a pair of jeans in there or probably 2 shirts. store.usps.com/store/browse/uspsProductDetailMultiSkuDropDown.jsp?productId=P_EP14PE&categoryId=priority-mail |
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Post by julian on Oct 10, 2014 8:04:33 GMT -6
Yeah, that's how Gustin does it - just folds up the jeans in one of those padded envelopes. Works fine and they charge $23 to overseas buyers.
The icing on the cake would be if you also marked the package as a $22 value...
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