What Gustin deliveries are you waiting for?

Take my advice. If they don't fit and come in at skinny spec. (It's happened to me many a time) return them.

You will never wear them.

It's kinda funny.  I came up with the idea of exchanging/buying 21s off of each other, and then I completely forget and say this.  Dibs on 36/37 Slims sewn like a 35 Slim!

My theory is that the smaller sizes tend to be pretty close, but as the size increases, the likelihood of being out of spec does also. There are lots of complaints on 36 and above, I've had great luck with 33 and 34, and I don't know if I've ever heard of the 29-32 crowd having much trouble. Also, this particular issue seems to be independent of the denim weight, though the general advice is to size up for heavier denim to account for the increased fabric thickness that reduces the inside diameter of the waistband.

Which is funny because my coalxblacks at 16oz sewed up the best of my 5 pairs.

as they say, ymmv

but I cant screw around with any of these loomstates because Im a 38 and there is not option for 2 sizes up.

The last three updates have said shipping soon and through the end of the month, starting around the beginning of the month/end of December. There are about 5 or so people here waiting for them, I don't think anyone has received yet.

I have measured each pair I have received.  There has been some variation in each pair, on both the high and low side but within spec every time.  Maybe I am just getting lucky, but so far I have not moved on from Gustin.  I still find value in their jeans and chinos. 

Henleys should arrive today, out for delivery now.

Yeah, me too.  They have all week to make it on time.  Seems like maybe this one is going to run long, like most of the heavy stuff does.

In my case that .5" variance works to my advantage since I lost weight. I also figured that the .5" variance will largely depend on what you're comfortable with concerning fit. It's been widely accepted that having a tight fitting waist band is preferable since it'll stretch out with wear. My 3sixteen st-100x have a waist spec of 34" for a size 33, but mine came in at 33.5" which is pretty tight. It's not a big deal because they'll stretch.

As for other companies that come into spec, Ciano is, for all intents and purposes, a made to measure denim manufacturer, so his sizing allowances are going to be better than most. But his turnaround times are also very long. IH has all around good QC, as they should for a premium denim brand. TS may have worked for you on your purchases but I know there are customers who have had plenty of fit issues, especially with their shirts. TS isn't going to be perfect but I agree that their QC will be miles better than G.

Please let me know if this runs big or small for you. It will change two of my orders depending! Thanks!

Let me re-phrase what I said. 1/2" tolerance ALL THE TIME is really not acceptable. An item here or there is not terrible, but for nearly every item he has to come in 1/2" under spec is unacceptable to me. Obviously there will be mistakes made and the occasional item will slip through. 

I also get that the long wait times for Ciano scare some people off. All I can say is that all of the items I have from him are simply incredibly. You can get jeans for the same price as G, with a slightly longer wait time, better QC, lifetime repair, and amazing service. The guy works 7 days a week, puts out an incredible product, and has been excellent to work with. He has taken so much feedback from this board, and truly cares about his product.

Which one is the ugly grey?