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Post by gaseousclay on Aug 16, 2015 12:52:03 GMT -6
Guessing the pricing is dependent on the leather used though, with Chromexcel/other Horween leathers being pricier than others (as with the belts and the sneakers). So could go up to $250; still good value nonetheless though. *Edit Having said that you can pick up Thorogood boots with pretty much the exact same specs for $230 delivered now from Huckberry. Hard to distinguish yourself in this kind of field if not through price. This is purely speculative, but I'm of the belief, Weinbrenner has finally decided to get off the bench and into the game. Until now, they've seemed rather content, being one of the best in producing true working boots, and leaving the heritage lines to others. I think the deal with Huckberry, and lower retail at retailers, like mildblend and context, is for greater name recognition and exposure to the quality of their products. It would not surprise me to see them eventually fall in line with Red Wing and Wolverine, price wise. If that happens, Gustin, at $199 becomes a value, once again. Weinbrenner is coming out with their Dodgeville series captoe boot in 2016. They are indeed trying to step up their game and become a player in the market. Interesting to see the Dodgeville being offered via Huckberry so soon. I'm curious how sizing is on their 60 last? Fwiw, I own a pair of Mills Fleet Farm/Field N Forest 6" moc toe boots that are made by Thorogood/weinbrenner and they're my favorite. Plus they only cost me $100 and some change on sale |
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Post by Griffin on Aug 16, 2015 12:53:43 GMT -6
But why the gap on the heel. Is this really a good looking detail?
I want them but am trying to assure myself my jeans will cover the gap...
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Post by exophobe on Aug 16, 2015 13:41:34 GMT -6
But why the gap on the heel. Is this really a good looking detail? I want them but am trying to assure myself my jeans will cover the gap... Are you talking about how they don't have a 360 welt? I'm not sure I know what you mean by gap on the heel. |
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Post by variable on Aug 16, 2015 15:12:07 GMT -6
No leather soles for me. Give me a nice rugged lug sole -- I need all the traction I can get to keep me upright.  |
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Post by jray on Aug 16, 2015 15:56:50 GMT -6
Look's as thought someone has figured out the manufacturer:
https://www.reddit.com/r/goodyearwelt/comments/3h7pvd/gustin_is_making_a_boot_round_2/
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 16, 2015 16:00:37 GMT -6
No leather soles for me. Give me a nice rugged lug sole -- I need all the traction I can get to keep me upright. Anything but leather for a rugged boot... I want to see what the natural one prices out at and how narrow the toe box really is. Looks pretty sleek. It's exactly what we figured Gustin would release. A boot for San Fran office employees. |
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Post by exophobe on Aug 16, 2015 16:03:26 GMT -6
No leather soles for me. Give me a nice rugged lug sole -- I need all the traction I can get to keep me upright. although, for $200 you can certainly get a lug put on them if you want the lower profile without paying $600 for a pair of Alden. I'm really surprised at the $200 price-point, as that puts them at a Thursday Boot Made in Mexico price. It'll be interesting to see what the markup is for the Dublin or Essex, if any. At $200 the dublin or essex would be an absolute steal for these boots. |
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Aug 16, 2015 16:06:55 GMT -6
No leather soles for me. Give me a nice rugged lug sole -- I need all the traction I can get to keep me upright. although, for $200 you can certainly get a lug put on them if you want the lower profile without paying $600 for a pair of Alden. I'm really surprised at the $200 price-point, as that puts them at a Thursday Boot Made in Mexico price. It'll be interesting to see what the markup is for the Dublin or Essex, if any. At $200 the dublin or essex would be an absolute steal for these boots. Yep. Definitely something to keep an eye on. |
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Post by exophobe on Aug 16, 2015 16:08:42 GMT -6
How have I never seen those before? I like those a lot. |
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Post by devastitis on Aug 16, 2015 16:10:16 GMT -6
How have I never seen those before? I like those a lot. those are new to AE. They just dropped them for the first time, as well as some others. |
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Aug 16, 2015 16:17:35 GMT -6
How have I never seen those before? I like those a lot. those are new to AE. They just dropped them for the first time, as well as some others. My local AE store manager said that AE hired someone that used to design for Wolverine to design the Normandy and other boots being released. He tried to get me to try a pair but I'd already committed to a pair of Aldens from Leffot back in Feb (should get them tomorrow). The other gentleman in the store seemed to really like how they fit. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 16:27:57 GMT -6
No leather soles for me. Give me a nice rugged lug sole -- I need all the traction I can get to keep me upright. X2 leather is just to short lived and noisy. Smooth rubber is fine when there's no snow/ice. I think these would look better with a thicker sole. |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 16, 2015 16:55:22 GMT -6
Not just the leather sole, of course you can put a mini lug on it. But the toe box looks very slim. I guess I really need to see them in person.
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Post by variable on Aug 16, 2015 19:19:54 GMT -6
I don't know. The idea of changing soles on a boot seems... wrong? Like, why bother with it when there are a dozen other makers out there who will make the exact shoe you want without having to hack up the shoe first. Heh, let's see if someone buys one and wabisabis it up.
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Post by exophobe on Aug 16, 2015 20:37:24 GMT -6
I don't know. The idea of changing soles on a boot seems... wrong? Like, why bother with it when there are a dozen other makers out there who will make the exact shoe you want without having to hack up the shoe first. Heh, let's see if someone buys one and wabisabis it up. If you're not after the low profile toe, then yes, it'd be silly to order a boot with the plan of changing the sole, especially one you have to wait months for. If you consider that the alternative is an Alden that runs about three times as much, it's not such a terrible idea. Re-soling a Goodyear welted boot, however, is not silly, it's the reason you buy a Goodyear welted boot. The great thing is that these are leather-soled and will be scheduled for delivery in November.  |
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Post by variable on Aug 16, 2015 21:17:45 GMT -6
The great thing is that these are leather-soled and will be scheduled for delivery in November. Well, I suppose that's OK if you live in San Francisco. It would be a terrible idea here in the northeast. |
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Post by p0rkbelly on Aug 16, 2015 23:02:57 GMT -6
Who's making them? I say Allen Edmonds. I think they look pretty darn good for $199. Why would AE make boots for another company -- and now a competitor? AE spends a lot of money maintaining their own physical storefront locations...it's a manufacturer, Munro & Co. |
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Post by Griffin on Aug 17, 2015 0:09:00 GMT -6
But why the gap on the heel. Is this really a good looking detail? I want them but am trying to assure myself my jeans will cover the gap... Are you talking about how they don't have a 360 welt? I'm not sure I know what you mean by gap on the heel. I mean just over the heelbox where it meets the upper boot. |
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Post by Griffin on Aug 17, 2015 0:10:18 GMT -6
Is it really a big deal to just add a rubbersole on these? Thats what i will do.
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Post by wisdom on Aug 17, 2015 0:48:38 GMT -6
Is it really a big deal to just add a rubbersole on these? Thats what i will do. If it's an oiled, compressed leather sole, the rubber won't secure well. I've got two pairs of Wolverine 1K's and the soles are compressed, oiled leather. When I wore a hole through My CXL pair, I had it replaced with a new, unoiled, leather sole.. after breaking it in for about a month, I had the rubber sole slapped on. I'll do the same with my 744's when the soles wear through. Resoling costs about $60.. the rubber sole costs less than $10 to add or replace and gives you superior grip. |
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Post by Griffin on Aug 17, 2015 1:48:16 GMT -6
But who says this is oiled, i thought the majority believes its just dipped in water thus making the color on the pics? Did I miss something?
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Post by wisdom on Aug 17, 2015 3:40:07 GMT -6
But who says this is oiled, i thought the majority believes its just dipped in water thus making the color on the pics? Did I miss something? Yeah.. I don't know if it is or not.. that's why I said "if" |
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Post by gaseousclay on Aug 17, 2015 8:00:56 GMT -6
Who's making them? I say Allen Edmonds. I think they look pretty darn good for $199. Why would AE make boots for another company -- and now a competitor? AE spends a lot of money maintaining their own physical storefront locations...it's a manufacturer, Munro & Co. because AE has the manufacturing capabilities to do so, and they've previously made boots for Wolverine (the Krause boot so i'm told). I don't see it as any different than a company doing private label stuff. There are quite a few companies that do private label merch through LCKingMfg (the Pointer Brand) and plenty of t-shirt companies that offer private label tee blanks to those who want it. Maybe there's a confidentiality clause that forbids companies from revealing who does their manufacturing. If it is Munro & Co then good for them. I don't care either way so long as Gustin sticks to its 'made in the US' business model. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 17, 2015 8:14:56 GMT -6
Who's making them? I say Allen Edmonds. I think they look pretty darn good for $199. Why would AE make boots for another company -- and now a competitor? AE spends a lot of money maintaining their own physical storefront locations...it's a manufacturer, Munro & Co. I think this has been pretty much confirmed now, right? Being Munro out of Arkansas? |
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Post by andycmd on Aug 17, 2015 10:10:20 GMT -6
Why would AE make boots for another company -- and now a competitor? AE spends a lot of money maintaining their own physical storefront locations...it's a manufacturer, Munro & Co. I think this has been pretty much confirmed now, right? Being Munro out of Arkansas? Not any more than any rumor but a well supported one. Some super sleuths say that the pictures of the factory posted by Gustin look exactly like it. Can't say confirmed unless someone they or Gustin says otherwise. To p0rkbelly's question, using cars as an analogy, many manufacturers will share factories or even manufacture the car specifically for a rival. An example is the Mazda 2 is rebadged as a Scion in the the US. Or take Samsung's relationship with Apple where Samsung manufactures tons of parts for their rival. |
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