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Post by exophobe on Nov 11, 2014 19:53:45 GMT -6
If you opened it up for a trucker jacket, I'd be severely tempted (I posted this earlier and then deleted it--trying not to be too needy). hi done as in done This is just brutal, guys. What if I want it as just a bolt of fabric I can wear as a small toga? huh? how about that?!  Don't mind me, I'm just retreating into my wallet under the weight of getting what I want. |
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Post by colerussell on Nov 11, 2014 20:10:08 GMT -6
This might be a silly question, but...
Is it possible to do the wool in a utility jacket cut? Or would that just be silly? Because it looks cool in my mind's eye.
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Post by DigDug on Nov 11, 2014 20:32:18 GMT -6
This might be a silly question, but... Is it possible to do the wool in a utility jacket cut? Or would that just be silly? Because it looks cool in my mind's eye. Isn't the Filson Wool Mackinaw jacket similar to a utility jacket. That jacket is liked by a lot of people. |
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Post by Tertius Gaudens on Nov 11, 2014 20:33:06 GMT -6
Is it just me, or is Lawless turning into the shop from "Needful Things" that steals everyone's souls by giving them the things they want?
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Post by Tertius Gaudens on Nov 11, 2014 20:33:46 GMT -6
Relatedly, I just pulled the trigger on the drab trucker jacket.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2014 20:41:23 GMT -6
Relatedly, I just pulled the trigger on the drab trucker jacket. ugh. if i didn't already have a trucker on order i'd consider a drab trucker with khaki stitching. |
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Post by roman on Nov 11, 2014 20:51:40 GMT -6
Damn.. that Cone Mills Post Dyed Military is going to make a sweet Chino! I didn't plan on buying a chino. And then that happened. roman, what is the process of dying the denim like? What effect does that have on the fading process of the denim? Did Lawless or Cone dye the denim? Coelrussell, We worked with Pacific Blue to get the denim dyed. It's a new denim so we have not had a chance to see how the fades look. I'll be having a part pair next week then I'll start road testing for fade. |
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Post by matt on Nov 11, 2014 20:59:42 GMT -6
And thanks to the generosity of Roman and the LD team, I now have 4 beautiful, customized high-quality workshirts for an incredibly amazing value. Thanks for the opportunity to help promote the brand!
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Post by Derek G on Nov 11, 2014 21:14:53 GMT -6
And thanks to the generosity of Roman and the LD team, I now have 4 beautiful, customized high-quality workshirts for an incredibly amazing value. Thanks for the opportunity to help promote the brand! Ok I'll be "that guy" pics! Matt pics!  when you get the time bro  |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 11, 2014 21:21:42 GMT -6
Coelrussell, We worked with Pacific Blue to get the denim dyed. It's a new denim so we have not had a chance to see how the fades look. I'll be having a part pair next week then I'll start road testing for fade. At the risk of beating a dead horse... First of all, I think it's cool you're working with them on unique shades. What color was it originally, natural with a blue selvedge or something else? and... hell I guess that's all I'm wondering. Oh and the main photo comparing it to umm.. that orange selvedge ID (little bit of a jab if that is what I think it is) indigo, confused me at first. I kind of like the way online fabric vendors seem to represent it, with the folded over corner, and then maybe another photo comparing to a well known color would be really helpful, and work to resolve the concerns about matching up the warp and weft photos (although you'd then be matching up these other two photos). |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 11, 2014 21:22:56 GMT -6
And thanks to the generosity of Roman and the LD team, I now have 4 beautiful, customized high-quality workshirts for an incredibly amazing value. Thanks for the opportunity to help promote the brand! I'm guessing you meant "on the way", otherwise I'm sort of half-glaring at you from my sad-wallet-place. |
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Post by wisdom on Nov 11, 2014 21:26:02 GMT -6
I didn't plan on buying a chino. And then that happened. roman, what is the process of dying the denim like? What effect does that have on the fading process of the denim? Did Lawless or Cone dye the denim? Coelrussell, We worked with Pacific Blue to get the denim dyed. It's a new denim so we have not had a chance to see how the fades look. I'll be having a part pair next week then I'll start road testing for fade. Damn.. Cone denim dyed by Pacific Blue, sewn up by Lawless.. you guys don't mess around. |
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Post by matt on Nov 11, 2014 21:30:40 GMT -6
And thanks to the generosity of Roman and the LD team, I now have 4 beautiful, customized high-quality workshirts for an incredibly amazing value. Thanks for the opportunity to help promote the brand! I'm guessing you meant "on the way", otherwise I'm sort of half-glaring at you from my sad-wallet-place. It's amazing the power of the word will...as in "I will now have...". Happy hour was more productive than I thought.  Sorry for the false alarm. I will post pics when I get my goods. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 11, 2014 21:34:53 GMT -6
I'm guessing you meant "on the way", otherwise I'm sort of half-glaring at you from my sad-wallet-place. It's amazing the power of the word will...as in "I will now have...". Happy hour was more productive than I thought. Sorry for the false alarm. I will post pics when I get my goods. But in the spirit of the post, yes, thank you Roman and the Lawless Denim team. I'm not confident in my mongolian bbq of denim ingredient choices, but I'm confident I'll be proud of the fact that I made the choice, and you guys put your best into making them, and that I'll be able to wear them with pride, being uniquely mine. I'm also certain that beast-wool will be keeping me quite warm as we roll into the playoffs -- well, not in Oakland, but at least they won't be TOO cold in the first place. |
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Post by roman on Nov 11, 2014 22:28:25 GMT -6
The dyed Denim is that cone mill 1776 natural. It's an a amazing Denim for dying. This roll is unique in that the 1776 selvedge disappeared completely except for the Blue ticker. We have seen the other roles and it's the only one out of 4000 + yards that has this ticker. I don't think we could reproduce it if we tried.
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Post by exophobe on Nov 11, 2014 23:14:16 GMT -6
The dyed Denim is that cone mill 1776 natural. It's an a amazing Denim for dying. This roll is unique in that the 1776 selvedge disappeared completely except for the Blue ticker. We have seen the other roles and it's the only one out of 4000 + yards that has this ticker. I don't think we could reproduce it if we tried. interesting. Thanks for sharing. Has Cone ever had an explanation for how this sort of thing happens? If I guessed at it, I'd think the red and white spools fell short on the loom, but that would take the mystery out of it. In any event, all this stuff has me really excited for you guys making your own fabric -- I like your eye for color, and one only has to read about pure blue Japan to be truly incensed by the thought of guys (and girls) who love denim making their own fabric. Fancy loomstates outside of the standard indigo or black warp/white weft, that's something I can't wait to get behind. |
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Post by jbcoulier on Nov 11, 2014 23:38:50 GMT -6
Really really tempted by the 13 OZ. PBM RAILROAD STRIP MEN'S SHIRT... hard for me to envision how it will look as a shirt though. I wonder if I could get a little more info on the fabric/ impressions? Button recommendations? I was thinking white thread?
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Post by exophobe on Nov 12, 2014 0:05:16 GMT -6
Really really tempted by the 13 OZ. PBM RAILROAD STRIP MEN'S SHIRT... hard for me to envision how it will look as a shirt though. I wonder if I could get a little more info on the fabric/ impressions? Button recommendations? I was thinking white thread? I think the white thread is awesome on my Gustin hickory stripe, and Taylor stitch did the same thing on their railroad stripe, so I'd say it's a safe bet. As far as buttons, I still say SKULL BUTTONS but lawless is too busy making everything else I want happen to get them. Heh |
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Post by jbcoulier on Nov 12, 2014 0:23:21 GMT -6
Thanks Exophobe: went for it with white thread.
Just a question for Roman: Do you take payment in the form of human souls, as in my own? I'm running out of money.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 12, 2014 0:49:38 GMT -6
Really really tempted by the 13 OZ. PBM RAILROAD STRIP MEN'S SHIRT... hard for me to envision how it will look as a shirt though. I wonder if I could get a little more info on the fabric/ impressions? Button recommendations? I was thinking white thread? Ok this is one of the fabrics that looks better in person. I took fabric swatches with me so I plan on doing a bit of a break down on each that I have. I don't have all but have some of the newer and older fabrics. I did get to touch and give a good look of maybe 80-85% of what we have seen. Roman brought some fabric with him to LA as well as completed garments like the type II which likely is the best of anything iv seen. Its super clean and easily fetch $300. I really mean that. The IxI with the copper stitch makes for an electric look. The Sedona in 8oz forrest green Pendleton fabric is better served when you actually touch it. I wasnt really into it at first site on the web but it is something special in hand. The Montana western which Roman wore as a jacket every night here easily sells for $200. I plan doing a lil write up on as much as I can without losing the feeling i initially got when i experienced it. If I am talking about it then It did something for me. I will get to individuAL fabric when I get back home and can grab each swatch and tell you what pops in my mind as i am holding it. Tomorrow will be a lost day for me as I will be traveling all day and back home at Midnight so Thursday will be hopefully a good day to do this. |
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Post by jbcoulier on Nov 12, 2014 1:19:30 GMT -6
Thanks DD -- I thought that R's jacket in the pics is a Topaz thread? Any advice on button choice on my Type 2 (Indigo/Indigo, Topaz thread) as you've see the fabric and jacket? On their own the Brass buttons look very bright on the website, but on R's jacket pics they look pretty damn good. Maybe one or the other of these pics isn't as faithful to the reality? Thoughts?
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Post by quick on Nov 12, 2014 1:24:46 GMT -6
Everyone seems to like the type 2.
Maybe I should switch my trucker to the type 2.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 12, 2014 2:29:03 GMT -6
Thanks DD -- I thought that R's jacket in the pics is a Topaz thread? Any advice on button choice on my Type 2 (Indigo/Indigo, Topaz thread) as you've see the fabric and jacket? On their own the Brass buttons look very bright on the website, but on R's jacket pics they look pretty damn good. Maybe one or the other of these pics isn't as faithful to the reality? Thoughts? yes topaz but i tend to pool that group together ac copper lol its the same idea in my mind. i need to be specific becsause i know people can buy based on the color described. yes the buttons look better in person. the whole thing just needs to be seen to understand. i know people value things based on quality which this has but i tend to value style and my own immediate feeling a bit more. the fact that its made out of some kiahara 14oz ixi selvedge denim becomes a bonus because i dig it so much as a stylish piece. next week ill get a chance to see everything so its gonna do justice for my own questions. coming to LA these past few days did a lot for me/you so ill be honest here. Meeting Roman for the 1st time was important to the decision i made with my wife to take this huge step to move us across the universe (yes going from NY to AZ is huge and could very well be MARS) Speaking with Roman & Laura solidified my initial thoughts on the brand and Roman. I mean forget about us liking Lawless for what they can do for our enormous appetite for denim but think about whether or not you would trust Lawless with your family having a roof over their head and food on the table.....The answer for me is YES undoubtedly. What he has out there I now understand what he had to do to get the brand this far. He wore his Wolverine 1000 mile boots as did Laura and we put that name to the test in only a few days. We think about making jeans in simple terms but its so much more to it. I mean everything from the size tags were addressed in these few days. We hit up every possible factory to find machines specific to every detail on the jean. We also searched for a machine that could specifically handle 24 oz denim so that should answer if Roman is serious about finding some heavy denims. We would walk in and say" Hey u got anything that can handle a 24 oz denim"? LOL Any doubts were easily proven to be not true. The great thing that really proved this guy is real was when we started talking about each one of you in here while we were out shopping for fabrics or just talking about designs. I mean specific names from here were being specifically addressed. Roman would be talking to a fabric mill owner mentioning one of your names saying what you wanted specifically. He didnt make it into something personal where Lawless benefitted but spoke what specific needs one of us had. He was addressing each person individually which to me gives all his customers a face and not a $$. He knows everyone very well and thats what many of us want. I noticed he is a real guy who wont be giving us to much of the business like answers that are politically correct and well thought out. Just like when I said the fact that the Type II is made out of 14oz Kiahara selvedge denim is just a bonus because the style of the jacket is what does it for me, well the products Lawless provides us is also just a bonus because Roman is def my style of owner. Now that I have a bit of experience with some of the fabric and more next week, I can seriously give you guys as real an answer I can give you. I can talk fabric with you the way you understand it. I think this can help before you buy as I consider myself one of you guys and i think I can pin point and express what the fabrics really are and not give you the sales pitch typically posted on a webstore |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 5:19:30 GMT -6
Thanks DD -- I thought that R's jacket in the pics is a Topaz thread? Any advice on button choice on my Type 2 (Indigo/Indigo, Topaz thread) as you've see the fabric and jacket? On their own the Brass buttons look very bright on the website, but on R's jacket pics they look pretty damn good. Maybe one or the other of these pics isn't as faithful to the reality? Thoughts? yes topaz but i tend to pool that group together ac copper lol its the same idea in my mind. i need to be specific becsause i know people can buy based on the color described. yes the buttons look better in person. the whole thing just needs to be seen to understand. i know people value things based on quality which this has but i tend to value style and my own immediate feeling a bit more. the fact that its made out of some kiahara 14oz ixi selvedge denim becomes a bonus because i dig it so much as a stylish piece. next week ill get a chance to see everything so its gonna do justice for my own questions. coming to LA these past few days did a lot for me/you so ill be honest here. Meeting Roman for the 1st time was important to the decision i made with my wife to take this huge step to move us across the universe (yes going from NY to AZ is huge and could very well be MARS) Speaking with Roman & Laura solidified my initial thoughts on the brand and Roman. I mean forget about us liking Lawless for what they can do for our enormous appetite for denim but think about whether or not you would trust Lawless with your family having a roof over their head and food on the table.....The answer for me is YES undoubtedly. What he has out there I now understand what he had to do to get the brand this far. He wore his Wolverine 1000 mile boots as did Laura and we put that name to the test in only a few days. We think about making jeans in simple terms but its so much more to it. I mean everything from the size tags were addressed in these few days. We hit up every possible factory to find machines specific to every detail on the jean. We also searched for a machine that could specifically handle 24 oz denim so that should answer if Roman is serious about finding some heavy denims. We would walk in and say" Hey u got anything that can handle a 24 oz denim"? LOL Any doubts were easily proven to be not true. The great thing that really proved this guy is real was when we started talking about each one of you in here while we were out shopping for fabrics or just talking about designs. I mean specific names from here were being specifically addressed. Roman would be talking to a fabric mill owner mentioning one of your names saying what you wanted specifically. He didnt make it into something personal where Lawless benefitted but spoke what specific needs one of us had. He was addressing each person individually which to me gives all his customers a face and not a $$. He knows everyone very well and thats what many of us want. I noticed he is a real guy who wont be giving us to much of the business like answers that are politically correct and well thought out. Just like when I said the fact that the Type II is made out of 14oz Kiahara selvedge denim is just a bonus because the style of the jacket is what does it for me, well the products Lawless provides us is also just a bonus because Roman is def my style of owner. Now that I have a bit of experience with some of the fabric and more next week, I can seriously give you guys as real an answer I can give you. I can talk fabric with you the way you understand it. I think this can help before you buy as I consider myself one of you guys and i think I can pin point and express what the fabrics really are and not give you the sales pitch typically posted on a webstore Beautifully written. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2014 10:21:08 GMT -6
Everyone seems to like the type 2. Maybe I should switch my trucker to the type 2. I say you forget what everyone else likes and stick with what made you excited enough to order in the first place. |
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