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Post by noirkw on Jan 13, 2015 21:32:47 GMT -6
Ordering a Montana Workshirt in 12oz Candiani N Gine. What do you guys think? Looking at the Marble White snap buttons, or should I go with the black snap buttons instead?
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Post by Winterland on Jan 13, 2015 23:50:36 GMT -6
Ordering a Montana Workshirt in 12oz Candiani N Gine. What do you guys think? Looking at the Marble White snap buttons, or should I go with the black snap buttons instead? It is all personal preference. The Candiani is a lighter color denim so the white would be less contrasting than the black. Do some google searches of denim shirts looking for white and black buttons to see what you prefer. Here are a couple. The denim colors aren't exactly the same but should give an idea.   |
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Post by noirkw on Jan 14, 2015 8:45:11 GMT -6
Thanks Winterland. Now that I think about it, black would be a nice contrast to light indigo.
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Post by usctroll on Jan 14, 2015 9:13:40 GMT -6
Ordering a Montana Workshirt in 12oz Candiani N Gine. What do you guys think? Looking at the Marble White snap buttons, or should I go with the black snap buttons instead? This is my shirt, Candiani N Gine with khaki thread and white snaps. That's a relatively bright/medium blue denim and I think it would look a bit funny with black thread or snaps. Be prepared for the fabric to look completely different than every pic you've ever seen of it. http://instagram.com/p/w6p2VgjA_k Although I must say, my shirt looks exactly like this: pacificbluedenims.com/index.php?p=vprd&tid=2322Sal, is this Candiani N-Gine? Mine definitely has the slate weft, which doesn't appear to be the case with what is currently called Candiani N-Gine on your site. |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 14, 2015 11:03:35 GMT -6
I will chime in say the 10.5 oz pics you are talking about look just like my 14oz Kaihara IxI Montana shirt fabric that I have reviewed here. It is dark indigo. Not black. My shirt is just starting to get some very cool wear fades. I wear it a lot. I will get some pics up soon. It is fading into an electric blue. No grey going on here. I thought about ordering a 10.5oz shirt also. Ok....but Im still hesitating. I have chosen this fabric for a retro-denim shirt with topaz thread and white marble buttons. Now after the pics Im not so sure this is the right fabric to do this shirt in. |
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Post by Tobesjones on Jan 14, 2015 11:28:56 GMT -6
I will chime in say the 10.5 oz pics you are talking about look just like my 14oz Kaihara IxI Montana shirt fabric that I have reviewed here. It is dark indigo. Not black. My shirt is just starting to get some very cool wear fades. I wear it a lot. I will get some pics up soon. It is fading into an electric blue. No grey going on here. I thought about ordering a 10.5oz shirt also. Ok....but Im still hesitating. I have chosen this fabric for a retro-denim shirt with topaz thread and white marble buttons. Now after the pics Im not so sure this is the right fabric to do this shirt in. Have the 14 oz coming in both the indigo and the dark grey shirts. You made me excited that it is already getting some fade wears. I almost thought it would be too heavy and I would be walking around like a robot. For some ideas Griffin I went with tonal thread for the indigo with the tiger eye buttons. I like that for a nice formal dark blue. Postal workshirt did the marble buttons and khaki thread. I think that design has a lot going on and needs some contrast. Dark Grey went with white with copper buttons. This will be my beat the crap out of shirt. This brings up a question. Do you guys do anything different for your workshirts or do you treat them like pants? I always give my denim a 45 minute soak but thinking of just going cold turkey on the wear with the shirts. |
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Post by Winterland on Jan 14, 2015 11:53:03 GMT -6
I will chime in say the 10.5 oz pics you are talking about look just like my 14oz Kaihara IxI Montana shirt fabric that I have reviewed here. It is dark indigo. Not black. My shirt is just starting to get some very cool wear fades. I wear it a lot. I will get some pics up soon. It is fading into an electric blue. No grey going on here. I thought about ordering a 10.5oz shirt also. Ok....but Im still hesitating. I have chosen this fabric for a retro-denim shirt with topaz thread and white marble buttons. Now after the pics Im not so sure this is the right fabric to do this shirt in. The Topaz thread should look great. It won't be as contrast as white on my shirt that's for sure. Your buttons will pop though. I think it should look fine. If it's too contrasty, is that a word? for you, you will just have to wear the hell out of it. |
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Post by Winterland on Jan 14, 2015 11:58:51 GMT -6
Ordering a Montana Workshirt in 12oz Candiani N Gine. What do you guys think? Looking at the Marble White snap buttons, or should I go with the black snap buttons instead? This is my shirt, Candiani N Gine with khaki thread and white snaps. That's a relatively bright/medium blue denim and I think it would look a bit funny with black thread or snaps. Be prepared for the fabric to look completely different than every pic you've ever seen of it. http://instagr.am/p/w6p2VgjA_k If this exact picture had black thread and or black buttons I would still like it. Possibly more. Actually I love the thread but would like black buttons. Different strokes as they say. |
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Post by Winterland on Jan 14, 2015 12:28:10 GMT -6
Ok....but Im still hesitating. I have chosen this fabric for a retro-denim shirt with topaz thread and white marble buttons. Now after the pics Im not so sure this is the right fabric to do this shirt in. Have the 14 oz coming in both the indigo and the dark grey shirts. You made me excited that it is already getting some fade wears. I almost thought it would be too heavy and I would be walking around like a robot. For some ideas Griffin I went with tonal thread for the indigo with the tiger eye buttons. I like that for a nice formal dark blue. Postal workshirt did the marble buttons and khaki thread. I think that design has a lot going on and needs some contrast. Dark Grey went with white with copper buttons. This will be my beat the crap out of shirt. This brings up a question. Do you guys do anything different for your workshirts or do you treat them like pants? I always give my denim a 45 minute soak but thinking of just going cold turkey on the wear with the shirts. There is no doubt 14oz is a thick fabric for a shirt but I like it. If you look back at my review I ended up doing a warm soak. It will depend on how yours fits. I was okay with shrinking a little which it did in the right places and I like the results. The fabric also loosened up a little. |
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Post by jamesr on Jan 14, 2015 17:57:54 GMT -6
My Gustin WS is 12.5 or 13 oz. Gave it a hot soak and wear it more as a shirt jac. Starting to like it a lot.
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Post by noirkw on Jan 15, 2015 3:50:30 GMT -6
Ordering a Montana Workshirt in 12oz Candiani N Gine. What do you guys think? Looking at the Marble White snap buttons, or should I go with the black snap buttons instead? This is my shirt, Candiani N Gine with khaki thread and white snaps. That's a relatively bright/medium blue denim and I think it would look a bit funny with black thread or snaps. Be prepared for the fabric to look completely different than every pic you've ever seen of it. http://instagr.am/p/w6p2VgjA_k Although I must say, my shirt looks exactly like this: pacificbluedenims.com/index.php?p=vprd&tid=2322Sal, is this Candiani N-Gine? Mine definitely has the slate weft, which doesn't appear to be the case with what is currently called Candiani N-Gine on your site. Hi usctroll, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I actually based the color of the shirt on the fabric swatch on Lawless's website. Are you saying the fabric is totally different from what is shown ? www.ra-denim.com/12-5-oz-candiani-n-gine-lead-mens-shirt/If that's the case may I see a picture of your shirt without all the lighting/enhancements like in the IG post? Thanks |
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Post by usctroll on Jan 15, 2015 9:07:23 GMT -6
Hi usctroll, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I actually based the color of the shirt on the fabric swatch on Lawless's website. Are you saying the fabric is totally different from what is shown ? www.ra-denim.com/12-5-oz-candiani-n-gine-lead-mens-shirt/If that's the case may I see a picture of your shirt without all the lighting/enhancements like in the IG post? Thanks There's a lot of confusion here in my opinion. The Candiani N-Gine Lead denim you linked to has a slate weft like my shirt and a light/grayish looking warp. My shirt has a slate weft and a medium/aqua warp like the Pacific Blue denim I linked to. The other Candiani N-Gine denim on the Lawless site looks like a medium/dark indigo warp with an off-white weft. At this point I really have no idea what to expect by ordering something called Candiani N-Gine. It appears to be an entire series of denim rather than a specific product. I haven't been able to take a great picture of my shirt, but here's my review. It's not this dark in person: gustinfriends.proboards.com/thread/264/lawless-reviews?page=29More broadly I would say that denim is crazy hard to photograph, and even if you get accurate color it's impossible to know how it's going to feel. It's also impossible to look at a swatch and know how the texture/color will come together on a fully sewn pair of pants or a shirt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 10:42:34 GMT -6
it looks like the photo being referenced in above from IG, and usctroll's photos are the "12.5 oz. Candiani N Gine Lead" fabric (based on the photos on LD's site). the other "N-Gine" fabric labeled "12.5 oz. Candiani N-Gine" like usctroll stated looks more like a medium indigo denim with a near white weft. The texture also does not look like a typical Italian denim...with a slightly looser weave and broader twill lines than I've seen with the other Italian fabrics. |
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Post by usctroll on Jan 15, 2015 11:08:38 GMT -6
it looks like the photo being referenced in above from IG, and usctroll's photos are the "12.5 oz. Candiani N Gine Lead" fabric (based on the photos on LD's site). The other "N-Gine" fabric labeled "12.5 oz. Candiani N-Gine" like usctroll stated looks more like a medium indigo denim with a near white weft. The texture also does not look like a typical Italian denim...with a slightly looser weave and broader twill lines than I've seen with the other Italian fabrics. Yes, the shirt I have is a tight weave without obvious twill lines. The Candiani N-Gine Lead on the LD site might be the same as the Candiani N-Gine AquaxSlate on the Pacific Blue site. If so, the Pacific Blue photo is way closer to being an accurate representation of the material. Gustin's descriptions can be a bit floral and long-winded, but they can also be pretty useful. LD needs to step up their game on the descriptions ASAP with, at a minimum, a description of the warp and weft colors and a description of the weaving characteristics. A few months ago most of that would have meant nothing to me, but now it's pretty much mandatory if I'm going to order something. At least with the 15.2 oz Cone that I ordered my Kevlar LDs in I know what medium/heavy Cone will look like. On these more esoteric Italian/Japanese denims I really have no idea. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Jan 15, 2015 13:24:55 GMT -6
Dirty_Denim Dude. I need to know something. The new pics showes the Kaihara Indigo over indigo. www.ra-denim.com/10-5-oz-kaihara-mills-indigo-over-indigo-mens-shirt/ In this pic it looks black. And it looks a whole lot like the IxI I got frum gustin only lighter (the id is the exact same). I kinda hate this fabric because mine never got indigo, it got grey. On 28. Novermber I ordered a montana with "Kaihara 10.5oz Indigo over indigo" but at the time the photos looked very very blue. (Order #1220) Is it the same fabric and its actually more black? Or are these 2 different fabrics? If they are different, how do you tell them apart? I think there were another 10.5 kaihara aswell at some time. Could you clear this up a little. Def indigo and def dark. I ordered it because i saw and felt it IRL. I think i did a sedona in it if i remember right. Either way it is saturated dark indigo |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 15, 2015 13:29:12 GMT -6
So it could be a good start to make an old school denim shirt then, I just need to work on it? I would have chosen the red-id candiani but its 13 oz and a little too heavy.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Jan 20, 2015 11:16:17 GMT -6
So it could be a good start to make an old school denim shirt then, I just need to work on it? I would have chosen the red-id candiani but its 13 oz and a little too heavy. YES A CPO would look great. I really like this fabric. DO it all dark and it will look amazing |
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Post by dz00 on Jan 20, 2015 22:39:39 GMT -6
Yep. Nice and clean.
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Post by Old26 on Jan 22, 2015 14:41:09 GMT -6
Oh hell yeah! Count me in too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 14:44:33 GMT -6
Nice but 3x1 normally $$$$ |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 23, 2015 2:50:37 GMT -6
I am going completely crazy here about how the fabrics look on the swatches and then what comes in. What is going on!!!! Look at this Kaihara IxI: www.ra-denim.com/type-ii-denim-jacket/But wait...here is also the 14oz Kaihara IxI: http://instagram.com/p/yAgPdqDAw_ In the same way I thought the 15oz Nihon menpu were suposed to be dark but it looks very normal jeancolor on the latest shirt coming in. |
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Post by bigblack on Jan 23, 2015 3:09:05 GMT -6
I am going completely crazy here about how the fabrics look on the swatches and then what comes in. What is going on!!!! Look at this Kaihara IxI: www.ra-denim.com/type-ii-denim-jacket/But wait...here is also the 14oz Kaihara IxI: http://instagr.am/p/yAgPdqDAw_ In the same way I thought the 15oz Nihon menpu were suposed to be dark but it looks very normal jeancolor on the latest shirt coming in. I think the thread color is giving your eyes an illusion of a different color of the same denim. When I ordered the 15 oz nihon menpu, I did not get an impression that the denim be dark but rather a standard blue color. But everyone's eyes are different. |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 23, 2015 3:43:55 GMT -6
Ok that might be right. Then my ixi shirt will look amazing atleast. I wish that fabric came in 15 or 16 oz for the jacket tho.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Jan 28, 2015 10:02:52 GMT -6
Ok that might be right. Then my ixi shirt will look amazing atleast. I wish that fabric came in 15 or 16 oz for the jacket tho. http://instagram.com/p/yDJ0Q7tcmj It is a tough one to capture but it looks amazing in person. No matter what you have on your mind it will be better in your hands |
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Post by Griffin on Jan 28, 2015 11:01:38 GMT -6
It it beautiful, its just so much darker then I thought when i paired it with topaz thread/white snaps on the shirt. But if it fades to blue then it will be all good.
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