New Drops

Right!? I've dropped some weight and need a tailor to bring them in and wonder if they're a pain or not. The fades actually compliment the pants in a non-intrusive way imo. Always look for another indigo/like chino to drop from them. 

Shame it's made in China. I like it too.

Let's talk camp pant sizing.

I'm between sizes 31 and 32. Thinking about sizing up and not having to worry about waist shrinkage.

I also really like the Crater shirt, but I just don't think I can do it.

Is TS trolling us?  I was willing to accept (and even purchase) Portguese-made clothing, but China is too much.  I don't really go on Style Forum or similar websites, but are others calling out TS for this stuff?  Are we the only ones who give a shit?  I used to buy Ibex stuff too, which was mostly made in USA, but now more and more of their stuff is made in Vietnam.  It seems like we're moving backwards.    

Edit:
The local Patagonia store just had a big sale and I bought a bunch of winter stuff there for my kids.  Most of Patagonia's stuff is made in SE Asia, but they are maniacal about ethical sourcing up and down their supply chain.  They are also a type B corporation.  That is something I can support.  I'm not sure that TS or most other US based brands go to those extremes to vet the Asian factories they partner with.  

TS also doesn't seem to respond too much to the criticisms they get on SF. probably smart of them not too since the negative feedback is pretty consistent

Ah...the power of the almightly $ to corrupt. Sellouts...

Aside from the snap at the collar, I really like mine. Even the one they swapped Portugal for MiUSA on me. Good shirts.

When it was MikeG, he responded fairly quickly (maybe twice a week unless PM'd). Steve seems to be less involved and is more once every 2-4 weeks, but with a whole slew of responses.

The MiC stuff...we complained on there a lot, but their response was "MiUSA deals with sweatshops too!" "Trust us, we think these guys are better"....

That's just it, unless they're milling he fabric in China, there is no reduction to carbon footprint. And even then, you still have to ship it over here. Plus, like I mentioned on their Facebook, Chinese factories often outsource some production and have a main factory that looks clean and sparkly and can pass all that certifications. That main factory gets the finished goods and exports them, but assembly is done elsewhere in a factory that isn't up to par. There is no telling if that's the case here.

That said, I might buy the glacier in hickory indigo stripe as it may be their last MiUSA offering.

I don't get it. When I attended their dinner with Union Wine Co Mike told me they weren't a clothing company, they were a brand. Their brand was built on American made, and focused on small artisanal producers etc. Such a sudden shift makes no sense.

Exactly. And forgot that there are plenty of MiUSA folks to keep our interest. I do think that TS was sort of caught, much like Flint and Tender before them, by being priced a little too low for sustainable MiUSA products. F&T now uses cheaper materials and a simple distribution. TS is clearly just giving up and will be consumed by the 1,000 MiC fashion brands already out there.

I'm in on the Red & Black Shadow Plaid.
Made in California also (so that should appease the masses)

Dammit, that's nice. I thought I'd written them off.